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Forbidden Science: Low Level Radiation and Cancer
American Thinker ^ | July 6, 2012 | Norman Rogers

Posted on 07/07/2012 1:07:00 AM PDT by neverdem

Some things are hard to believe. What you've been told about low-level radiation by the people who are supposed to be responsible authorities is very wrong. The evidence that the official story is wrong is overwhelming. They know about the evidence. Yet because they have a vested interest in being wrong, they willfully keep being wrong. There is massive evidence that low levels of radiation rather than causing cancer, actually suppress cancer. The reason is, probably, that radiation in small or moderate quantities stimulates cellular repair mechanisms. This is not to negate the fact that large amounts of radiation can kill you or make you sick. This protective effect of low levels of radiation is called radiation hormesis.

The case of radiation hormesis provides yet more evidence that the scientific establishment and the EPA are lacking in objectivity when their interests are at stake. They cling to scare stories like leeches. Be it ionizing radiation or global warming they will not admit that they were wrong, at least if they can avoid it.

Our bodies are bombarded with ionizing radiation because it is everywhere. Radiation is ionizing if the rays or particles have sufficient energy to rip electrons from atoms, a feat that can disrupt biochemical systems. Ionizing radiation comes in the form of cosmic rays, radioactive minerals and even potassium 40, the radioactive isotope of potassium that is always in our bodies and lurking everyplace where potassium is found. The particles and rays from radioactive decay rip through our cells leaving a trail of destruction in their wake. Our bodies have powerful mechanisms evolved over millions of years to deal with the destruction caused...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cancer; hormesis; linearnothreshold; lntmethod; lowlevelradiation; radiationhormesis
Forbidden Science: Low Level Radiation and Cancer

Fraudulent science isn't chat. It's a crime that needs prosecution!

1 posted on 07/07/2012 1:07:16 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

On Radon... in Japan, hot-springs advertise it.

No joke, there was a place around the corner (since converted to apartment buildings because traditional baths are dying of neglect) that offered a “refreshing radon spa”.

I was never tempted to try it while it was there, but it’s not uncommon. I’ve read about them in other places.


2 posted on 07/07/2012 1:41:10 AM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: neverdem
Radiation hormesis theory is never addressed by regulators such as the Nuclear Regulatory Comission. From studying it, I accept it any day over AGW. The LNT radiation theory is deeply flawed and isn't supported by measurements of human or other biological populations.

Hormesis vs. LNT is another case of politics over science. One of it's adverse effects is to greatly increase the cost of nuclear power.

3 posted on 07/07/2012 2:00:31 AM PDT by 103198
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To: neverdem

One of my coworkers at the nuclear plant where I worked knew a fellow named Ernie.

Ernie (I can’t tell you his last name because it is still classified) lathed the uranium and plutonium used to make the only two atomic bombs used during a war. My coworker had met him while working at Hanford, WA.

Ernie would set off all the radiation alarms entering the Hanford reservation. This was due to an old injury. Back in 1945, while lathing plutonium, the lathe shattered. He wasn’t severely injured, but ended up with 200-300 milligrams of weapons grade plutonium embedded in his body.

My coworker stated that he met Ernie in the early 1970s. At that time Ernie was smoking cigars and drinking about a liter of whiskey a week.

Of course, it had to be the whiskey that was keeping him alive, don’t you think?


4 posted on 07/07/2012 2:29:36 AM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: neverdem

I am reminded that years ago in the midwest,Iowa, there was a doctor named Dr.Norman Baker who was using radiation, I believe it was X-rays but could have been some other radiation, to kill cancer cells. He was run out of town and the Country for being a quack. The medical profession had much to do with his going. As I recall the Dr. set up his practice across the Rio Grande near Loraedo Texas. I don’t recall what went on as to his curing cancer but there were people who went for his treatment(s).


5 posted on 07/07/2012 3:07:21 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: noinfringers2

Radiation is routinely used to treat cancer. Cancer cells have less resistance to radiation than normal cells. The debate is whether it makes sense to accept the risk of radiation to healthy tissue. High level radiation certainly is associated with a cancer risk to healthy tissue. One could draw a straight line from that risk to zero-zero, and that is what is routinely done. The proponents of low level radiation assert that rather than use a straight line, they should draw their straight line to zero-less than zero, so some low level of radiation is associated with positive benefits for healthy tissue, rather than merely act as a treatment for small cancers that you don’t know about yet. I don’t know what a mechanism for such a health benefit would be.


6 posted on 07/07/2012 3:28:43 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: neverdem

I can for-see the T.S.A. using this as well as the airlines......”FREE cancer preventitive treatment prior to each flight!!”


7 posted on 07/07/2012 3:35:48 AM PDT by Fighter@heart (Ask The American Indian how ignoring immigration worked out for them!!! WAKE UP!!)
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To: neverdem

Fraudulent science isn’t chat. It’s a crime that needs prosecution!

Add global warming scam to the list of prosecution


8 posted on 07/07/2012 3:38:41 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (B B)
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To: donmeaker

The mechanism is theorized by some to be that the radiation stimulates the immune response, exercising and strengthening the mechanisms which manage the ordinary tissue damage that occurs every moment of every day due to oxidants, other natural metabolic waste products, and natural cell death.


9 posted on 07/07/2012 4:07:30 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: neverdem
My urologist said that radiation killed the weaker cancer cells without damaging the healthy cells with radiation treatment of prostate cancer. Many cancers are treated by radiation.

Miners used to collect a fee for people go into their mine and soak up the radon.

10 posted on 07/07/2012 5:31:13 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: mountainlion
Miners used to collect a fee for people go into their mine and soak up the radon.

Actually, this was not an old-timey practice since the concept of radiation hormesis is relatively new. There are some places where people can go into mines for exposure to low-level radiation. The easiest thing is just to live in a Western mountainous state.

See the following:

Observations on the Chernobul Disaster and LNT.
11 posted on 07/07/2012 5:37:25 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: neverdem

I’m sorry, I just don’t buy this article. It would make my life too ‘uncomfortable’. LOL.


12 posted on 07/07/2012 5:44:57 AM PDT by BobL
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To: neverdem

Bananas have a lot of radiation from potassium-40. A truckload of bananas will set off a radiation detector.


13 posted on 07/07/2012 5:46:57 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: 103198
The reason is, probably, that radiation in small or moderate quantities stimulates cellular repair mechanisms.

It also messes up some cancer cells that have defective DNA repair mechanisms.
14 posted on 07/07/2012 5:50:07 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan
The Chernobyl Disaster was man made by operator disabeling the safeties. The reactor was like a swimming pool with no containment. Modern reactors have massive containment and multi level safeties. It is almost impossible to release radiation making automatic cure of cancer impossible./s
15 posted on 07/07/2012 5:52:17 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: noinfringers2
I am reminded that years ago in the midwest,Iowa, there was a doctor named Dr.Norman Baker who was using radiation, I believe it was X-rays but could have been some other radiation, to kill cancer cells.

It's standard practice to treat cancer using radiotherapy. It's not standard practice to claim to prevent cancer by subjecting patients to radiation. For one reason, it can be demonstrated that a targeted dose of radiation to certain tumors will cause them to shrink or regress. It cannot be demonstrated that exposing a particular individual to a whole body dose of radiation has prevented him from developing cancer. This is something that can be suggested epidemiologically by studies of cancer rates among populations living in areas of widely varying levels of background radiation, but not on a person by person basis. Treating Norman as a quack was the right thing to do if he wasn't a radiation oncologist.
16 posted on 07/07/2012 6:00:33 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: neverdem

Very interesting!


17 posted on 07/07/2012 6:46:25 AM PDT by matthew fuller (Hussein Obama Dada is absolutely the most contemptable President that the US has ever suffered.)
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To: SatinDoll

That much plutonium, and he should have been dead right there.

It doesn’t take much. But then I suspect it hasn’t been studied to closely.


18 posted on 07/07/2012 11:31:27 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: mvpel

That is a claim, not an explanation of how the effect works.

Ionizing radiation (sufficient energy to break covalent bonds) leads to odd chemicals inside the cells. The energy of ionizing radiation is absorbed in breaking the covalent bonds. If the bond is in DNA, then you can get a cancer, or you can get a mutation, which may be good, or may be bad, or may make no difference. If it is not in DNA, but in a tissue, you have miniscule tissue damage that is repaired. If it is in a chemical that is not tissue, you have an odd chemical in a dose that is too small to have any effect.


19 posted on 07/07/2012 5:52:20 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: redgolum

Plutonium 239 is an alpha particle emitter (helium nuclei)Your skin stops it. The major problem is breathing in plutonium dust, which affects the lungs, which tissues are sensitive to alpha particles, which can occur if you don’t follow safety procedures. Another difficulty is alpha emitters on things like cigarettes which are sucked into the lungs.


20 posted on 07/07/2012 6:05:59 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker
Now that is interesting. See, when I took a few nuke Engineering classes at Iowa state (right before they shut the program down), they said less than a milligram of Plutonium would kill you. Not from the radiation, but from the toxicity of the metal itself.

Not saying you're wrong, or even that my memory is right, but the Prof. said he lost friends during the Manhattan project to Plutonium, and not because of the radiation.

21 posted on 07/08/2012 6:33:26 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: neverdem

Good. I’ve been spreading the word on this since I first encountered it about 25 years ago. That’s how ingrained the liberal 5th column is and how important the Internet is.

This should give conservatives some perspective as to how long it will take to right the ship and return to the Constitution. We’ll need to win for over a generation, plus break the government school monopoly.


22 posted on 07/09/2012 3:57:40 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 103198

The goal of environmentalists is less human life. So lying about beneficial results is consistent. They hate human beings.


23 posted on 07/09/2012 4:01:56 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
They hate human beings.

Apparently, they only hate other human beings, since they don't seem to want to take the logical next step and remove themselves from the planet to save it.

24 posted on 07/09/2012 4:06:02 AM PDT by meyer (It's 1860 all over again - the taxpayer is the new "N" word)
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To: meyer
the logical next step

They're absent logic. Hence the whole source of the problem. Mental illness posing as a philosophy/religion.

25 posted on 07/09/2012 6:57:31 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: redgolum

I don’t doubt that the lesson (to machine Plutonium only while water was flowing over it) was learned at the price of many lives.

Dust, if breathed in, is very toxic. A team was operating an atomic pile, when it got away from them. After they got it shut down, the chief ordered everyone to stay at their work station. He drew a circle around his feet, and signed it with a piece of chalk in his lab coat. He walked over to each physicist, and had them do the same. All of them died of radiation (IIRC) and from their distance from the pile, they their doses were calculated, and correlate with how long it took them to die.

One early reactor got away, and the rescue crew found all the bodies but one. Eventually they found the last one. One worker had removed a control rod too far, the reactor moderator boiled, and the last man was found pinned by the control rod to the ceiling, pinned through his chest by the control rod he was adjusting. After that control rods were controlled by a worm gear for positive control over the position.


26 posted on 07/09/2012 9:59:54 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: redgolum

Below please find a link to the material data safety sheet for plutonium. Note the difference between ingestion and inhalation hazards.

http://www.chemexper.net/specification_d/chemicals/supplier/cas/Plutonium.asp


27 posted on 07/09/2012 10:06:48 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker
One early reactor got away, and the rescue crew found all the bodies but one. Eventually they found the last one.

The first fatal nuclear accident in the United States. Still, though, one of the safest methods of generating electricity and far, FAR safer than coal.
28 posted on 07/09/2012 10:13:40 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: donmeaker
The last was the Idaho Falls accident. I remember that one from a class I took. The first was a famous accident (or rather infamous) during the Manhattan project.
29 posted on 07/10/2012 4:56:10 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: aruanan

Safer than oil, natural gas, wind generation or even solar.


30 posted on 07/10/2012 6:50:10 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: redgolum

I worked, briefly, inside a reactor at Idaho Falls at the National Engineering Laboratory. We were looking at an artificial intelligence diagnostic system.

Happy times!


31 posted on 07/10/2012 6:57:46 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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