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CANADA WANTS U.S. VETERANS FOR PIPELINE WORK
VFW ^ | 7/2/2012 | anon

Posted on 07/06/2012 6:58:04 PM PDT by katiedidit1

“Though America’s Keystone Pipeline is delayed, the Canadians are moving forward on their side of the border and have an immediate need for tens of thousands of workers,” said Ted Daywalt, founder and CEO of VetJobs. There is an anticipated shortage of 114,000 workers in the Alberta area

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To: KC Burke

Long ago when traveling through Wyoming i saw a lot of jobs being offered.

I looked around and saw very high rents , that is if you could find one for rent..

In Alaska i bunked in a bunkhouse.

No place for families in these places..

Not sure how Canada works but the Carpenters Union arranged the jobs and rooms. Oregon worked with the Alaska carpenters union

I think i would contact a union first.


61 posted on 07/08/2012 3:38:00 PM PDT by bobbys
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To: katiedidit1

It sounds as though Barry might be outsourcing our veteran workers. If a vet can’t find a job in Barry’s Amerika, Canada will work.


62 posted on 07/08/2012 3:48:06 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Help reduce voter fraud in America! If you see something, say something!)
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To: wastedyears

wastedyears, you asked, “What are the requirements for a job in the petroleum industry in Texas or North Dakota?”

depends on what type of work you are good at, interested or experienced, or are qualified for; If a college gradaute, obviously geology or any engineering discipline will get you in the door at many companies.

if not a college graduate, the best way to get in the door is to acquire a commercial drivers license (CDL) to drive large trucks. nearly everythng in the land oil patch depends on trucking. alot of jobs put trucked equipment in place for days or weeks at a time that you would operate. Once that job done, you move it to the next job.

many jos are simple trucking jobs, loading and unloading wter, sand, cemetn, pipe, other materails and driving it here to there. these pay surprisingly well too, but no as well as combination trucking and equipement operator jobs

most, but not all drilling or service rig “rough-necking” jobs at times require you haul equipement, so need the CDL.
good diesel mechanics are always in demand, and anyone with machine fabrication and/or welding skills is needed.

msot companies, if you are a good candidate, will hire you and pay you to get the trucker/CDL training.
a combination of good mechanical aptitude (or ability to learn), clean driving record (no DUIs often but not always mandatory), and the CDL opens doors to hundreds of opportunities if you have the willingness to work on hitches with only 2-3 days off a couple to 3 times a month. there are many HS graduate jobs of $60K to $100K a year jobs. above all, you have to be clean and able to pass drug screening.


63 posted on 07/08/2012 4:44:29 PM PDT by EERinOK
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To: katiedidit1; tdaywalt

Thank you for posting it, katiedidit1. Thank you, Mr. Daywalt, for all that you do.

familyop [cbt. engr. (cbt.), National Guard, ‘89-’96]


64 posted on 07/08/2012 4:53:29 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: wastedyears

“What are the requirements for a job in the petroleum industry in Texas or North Dakota?”

For the more manual labor jobs, just showing up on time and being able to pass a drug test is huge.

Talked to a guy about doing some part time CDL work and he said they will interview dozens of people and not be able to find one that can pass the background/pee test. He said I could have all of the hours I could legally drive.


65 posted on 07/08/2012 4:58:39 PM PDT by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: tdaywalt
Thanks for the answers.

You can visit Canada on your drivers license or a military ID card, but to stay and work I believe you need a visa.
You might want to read reply #41. It says you're wrong on some things and the link is the State Dept. website.

66 posted on 07/08/2012 5:42:42 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fightin Whitey
You wouldn’t last a day in the oil patch anyway.
You don't know squat about me. I've probably worked more 7/12 shifts for months on end than you've worked 5/8's.
67 posted on 07/08/2012 5:44:38 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Leep

And you can read reply #67 as well.


68 posted on 07/08/2012 5:46:34 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: EERinOK; wastedyears
Some other things you need to know for Texas...
If you want to eventually become a craftsman you're going to need to pass a craft test through NCCER. You can start out as a helper and make decent wages, but who wants that forever?! The idea is to move upward to at least a craftsman. There are unskilled positions for fire watch and hole watch that pay 'so-so', but not as well as any craft jobs, even helper.

You're going to need pass a security check and get a TWIC card to work at any facility with a port. For SE Texas this is just about every refinery in the area.

The TWIC card is necessary for all trades/crafts and all levels. Laborers, helpers, craftsmen...everybody.

Pipefitters, boilermakers, carpenters (scaffolding), insulators, mechanics, operators (cranes/forklifts), machinists, radiologists and instrumentation are just some of the petrochemical craft positions available.
Unless there is new construction a lot of the work is seasonal or quarterly when units are shut down for maintenance. Permanent petrochemical jobs are scarce. They usually fall in process operator positions and an Associate degree in process operator is usually required.

Let me know if there is anything else I can help with.

69 posted on 07/08/2012 6:04:33 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36; EERinOK; Clay Moore

Jeez, thanks guys, that’s a huge help.

There’s next to nothing to be had in NYC. Doesn’t help that I don’t have a degree, or skills to put on paper. Though I did have a winter job deicing aircraft, in which I had to handle I think 20 ton trucks filled with flammable liquids. Plus a shift would terminate at 24 hours, as either a company or FAA limit. So due to that, I worked New Year’s, and I had put in one 20-hour shift, and one 22-hour shift.

That was only for one winter though, because the traveling was crap. I didn’t have a car, so I had to take two subway lines, to the Airtrain, then depending on the time of day, take either a shuttle bus or walk to where the contractor I worked for was stationed at. It wasn’t fun walking in the dead of winter because some a-hole bus driver decided to drive right by me. So I think I could handle getting a CDL.

One problem though, I have endocrine problems, and they cause me to feel like I’m 80. So higher education for me is out until I have this problem fixed.

If you want to talk further, I’ll send you a FReep mail or you can send me one. I’m 26 and I don’t sleep easy with the current job climate in NY.


70 posted on 07/08/2012 6:46:47 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: wastedyears
A little joke...
How do you tell if someone didn't pan out as an oilfield worker?
He picks his nose with his pinky finger.
(this is due to the tendency of losing tips or half of their index fingers on the platform)

And if you decide to drive you may want to keep this in mind...

Google - oil field drivers accidents

Work Injuries and Accidents in South Texas are often Fatigue Related

And if you're just starting out you may want to be prepared to get very muddy laying down board roads.
No board roads, no trucks. You'll hire in as a roustabout and you'll get all of the gruntwork/sh|twork.

And if you go the petrochemical route you're not out of danger either...
Phillips 66, for example.

Talk to some of the guys in New Jersey. They've got refineries there...
new jersey petrochemical

You've always got to be on your toes. And it may be another man's mistake that costs you your life. Nobody should tell you it's easy, whichever way you decide to go.

And whatever you do don't get offended by the greenhorn jokes and watch out for the sky hooks. (that's a joke, son, a joke)

71 posted on 07/08/2012 7:26:36 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: wastedyears
Watch this...trippin in throwing chain OilField Drilling Rig
If you ain't careful that chain'll take a finger off in a heartbeat!
72 posted on 07/08/2012 7:33:24 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36; Leep

You talk real tough and are just full up on knowledge ain’t you?

Trouble is you come off sounding like a company ninny who’s specialty is sneaking cookies out of the other hands’ lunch boxes. The hands who actually work, that is.

I knew a fatso who sounded just like you, every day, all day if you had the misfortune to be stuck next to him. We got tired of him stealing dessert so someone made a batch of ex-lax brownies.

He sneaked about half of ‘em before we broke for dinner and it was almost worth the previous five years just to see the look on his face when he lifted a leg to break a little wind.

Same product coming out of both ends of him at once. Yessirree, you remind me a lot of him.


73 posted on 07/08/2012 7:48:14 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: philman_36

I play guitar, there’s no way I’m losing a finger.


74 posted on 07/08/2012 7:48:55 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: Fightin Whitey
You talk real tough and are just full up on knowledge ain’t you?
I'm as tough as I need to be and I've earned my knowledge through time in the field.

...a batch of ex-lax brownies.
We went one better...we padlocked all of the Port-o-Johns on our lunch box rat.

Yessirree, you remind me a lot of him.
You remind me of the "in-law" foreman who chewed us out for getting back at him when he went crying to him.

75 posted on 07/08/2012 8:09:38 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36; Leep

Wipe your mouth there, phil.

You got some brown stuff dribblin’ out of it again.


76 posted on 07/08/2012 8:17:09 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey
BTW, you might try chocolate chunk cookies like we did next time.

It disguises much better and gives more...umph!...per cookie stolen.
77 posted on 07/08/2012 8:19:01 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fightin Whitey
You got some brown stuff dribblin’ out of it again.
That's snuff juice...spit.

What's that white stuff coming out of yours?

78 posted on 07/08/2012 8:20:40 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Mark
Potato farming dried up. Irish came to America (in droves).

US jobs lost en-masse due to Obama Socialism? More and more Americans are considering jobs, careers, entire retirements overseas and away from declining, socialist America. This has been talked about openly on FR for nearly 15 years, and Americans overseas know this all too well. We are swamped more and more with requests of people nibbling around the corners and hemming and hawing a bit that, well, that they might want to try to snag a job overseas, even if away from the wife or kids for two or three years. It is that frikkin' bad. I know of regular long haul truckers in the USA who were going to, of all places, IRAQ or AFGHANISTAN, to haul equipment for NATO and US forces. With hazard pay of course, but who knows if you will end up hanging by your heels burnt to a crisp with a crowded of bearded stinking muslims shouting Alaahu Ahkbaar! below. Sad. Not sad. Outrageous.

79 posted on 07/08/2012 9:25:59 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Rebel Colonists, tax-harassed by a government out of control, fed up,set up their OWN "death panels")
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To: philman_36

I was replying generally about the workers and not spefically about you or the other poster.
As I don’t know either one of you.

Carry on.


80 posted on 07/09/2012 5:56:03 AM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the StatistI)
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