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"To Held Evans, American churches’ attitude toward gay rights will play an important role in the retention of young Christians. In an article she wrote following North Carolina’s recent vote to ban gay marriage, Held Evans points to data mentioned in David Kinnaman’s book You Lost Me, which shows that 59 percent of teens who were raised Christian abandon the church when they become adults. One of the main reasons, the article says, is the church’s attitude toward gay rights." __________________________________ What they fail to mention is that public school indoctrination and media hype have heavily influenced this stance on less than 2 % of the population. This has not been a natural evolution, but a forced one. It has happened alongside a feminist and divorce agenda as well.
1 posted on 07/03/2012 4:26:21 AM PDT by scottjewell
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I don’t think an anti gay marriage stance would drive young Christians from the church, but it may drive young “church attenders” away.

I’ve been noticing, for the last 20-30 years, that more and more people are getting off the fence and taking a stand for one side or the other. I wondered why prophesy seems to speak of both a great falling away as well as revival in the end times. There may be fewer church attendees, but more of them will be “real” Christians and not cultural ones or people “hedging their bets” regarding the “turn or burn” message.


2 posted on 07/03/2012 4:30:56 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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1st John 2:19
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

Romans 1

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

These are NEW TESTAMENT passages.


3 posted on 07/03/2012 4:47:09 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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"Whoever wants to know what the serious objections to Christianity are should ask us. The unbeliever makes only stupid objections." (#2,017)

"An irreligious society cannot endure the truth of the human condition. It prefers a lie, no matter how idiotic it may be." (#1,139)>

- Don Colacho

7 posted on 07/03/2012 4:58:34 AM PDT by Prospero
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Sheep and the goats


9 posted on 07/03/2012 5:04:21 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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Where would the Homosexuals be today if it weren’t for us “breeders” who, (by being forced by Government), gave billions of dollars (through taxes) to fund research to find a cure for AIDS - so that the Homosexuals may continue with their deviant lifestyle...


11 posted on 07/03/2012 5:05:08 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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I don't understand the fear of "losing a generation" because you lied to them. The "mainline" protestant churches, Episcopal, Presbyterian, Methodist, etc. have been trying to become more "culturally relevant" for decades.
As a result of those efforts, their numbers continue to dwindle. Deep inside people is a desire for TRUTH, raw unadulterated TRUTH. All of the efforts to be culturally relevant are seen as just another lie.

The Church is not a numbers game, where the goal is to increase the number of butts in the pews. The Church should be about the business of speaking the TRUTH and LIGHT into darkness.
12 posted on 07/03/2012 5:06:48 AM PDT by TxAg1981
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typically the wrong question from the libtard media.....a backhanded swipe to question your faith
14 posted on 07/03/2012 5:08:57 AM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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Who the Hell wants to go anywhere that you can be subjected to “David and Barry” or “Lizzy and Letty” rubbing shoulders and holding hands?


16 posted on 07/03/2012 5:12:34 AM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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From te article: "Even young Christians who think that gay relationships are not God’s design, a lot of them will still say ‘but I think it should be legal for gay people to get married, because this is America,’

From the bible: Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin condemns any people Proverbs 14:34 NIV

These young Christians really have no idea about the Christian foundations of this country.

17 posted on 07/03/2012 5:15:26 AM PDT by tbpiper
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70 percent of young Christians also agree that religious groups are alienating young people by being too judgmental about gay and lesbian issues

70% young Christians aren’t Christians if they hold that homosexuality is ok.


18 posted on 07/03/2012 5:16:17 AM PDT by buck61
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fearing that the outspoken opposition to gay marriage among some church leaders could alienate an entire generation of religious youth. . .

Seems like the elders didn’t teach the youngsters very well. The yoots can’t be too religious if they do not heed the lesson of Sodom and Gamorrah.


20 posted on 07/03/2012 5:34:37 AM PDT by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Religion_Research_Institute

Public Religion Research Institute (note to self: who are these people?), teaming up with the press and politicians, to figure us out and control us.


21 posted on 07/03/2012 5:36:37 AM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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44 percent of white evangelicals aged 18-29 in support of marriage equality compared to only 12 percent of those 65 and older.

Then, that exposes them as "evangelicals" in the Jim Wallis mold.

It's impossible to be a follower of Christ and tolerant of homosexual marriage at the same time.

22 posted on 07/03/2012 5:51:55 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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Anyone leaving a church over this already had one foot out the door to begin with. Let them go, and pray for them.


24 posted on 07/03/2012 5:58:46 AM PDT by montag813
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The real question: Could rewriting scripture to pretend that gay "marriage" is okay drive young Christians from church?

If the Bible is merely a set of club bylaws and can be rewritten to suit the current fad among younger or newer members, then why bother following all those rules that ask us to do hard things the hard way? Why not just go with a club that allows stealing (if you don't get caught), that celebrates adultery (if the partner is "hot"), and that allows us to force others to help the sick and the poor so we don't have to do it with our own time and money. In other words, why not just become Democrats if the Bible is only a handbook that can be revised by ordinary people?

26 posted on 07/03/2012 6:01:21 AM PDT by Pollster1 (A boy becomes a man when a man is needed - John Steinbeck)
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As the battle over imperial sacrifices heats up in this election year, one Christian writer is calling for a truce, fearing that the outspoken opposition to pagan rituals among some church leaders could alienate an entire generation of Romans.


27 posted on 07/03/2012 6:02:00 AM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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Son #3 left the church we were attending and had attended almost all my life because he felt they were too liberal. He said he was more confused about his faith after going through confirmation class. A friend took him to non-denomination evangelical church where is now the assistant pastor.

While the rest of us still belong to the old church, we really haven’t attended since the sermon on global warming and dying polar bears. That one did if for my husband and I. We attend my son’s church occasionally, but they are really energetic :-) Wish we could find a new home. I didn’t change, but my church sure did.


29 posted on 07/03/2012 6:08:35 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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44 percent of white evangelicals aged 18-29 in support of marriage equality

I guess it is too much to ask to report the news without taking sides.

Maybe it should run like this:

44 percent of white evangelicals aged 18-29 in support of government encouragement for Sodomy, a sin that cries out to heaven for vengeance.

31 posted on 07/03/2012 6:09:01 AM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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“marriage equality”
What equality? Perverted homosexuals cannot reproduce. Equality means the ability to do the same as others.


35 posted on 07/03/2012 6:45:49 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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No worries.

The coffee bars, the widescreen TVs in the chancel, the Yanni hymnals and the Bible Via IPhone classes should bring’em right back into the fold.


40 posted on 07/03/2012 6:58:13 AM PDT by moovova
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