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I do not agree with Justice Roberts Opinion, nor do I agree with Mr. Lane's analysis. The dissenting opinion fully explains why the ACA is fatally flawed from a Constitutional perspective. But, Mr. Lane correctly points out that this unfortunate turn of events presents a number of advantages for conservatives in the coming elections.

As Britt Hume pointed out: "The dogs don't like the dog food". We need to point this out to the American people strongly and often.

1 posted on 07/01/2012 4:12:39 PM PDT by centurion316
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"In any compromise between good and evil, evil wins."

-- Ayn Rand.

2 posted on 07/01/2012 4:15:02 PM PDT by FredZarguna (When you find yourself arguing against Scalia and Thomas, you AREN'T a conservative.)
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Exactly the fawning press Roberts sought with his decision to screw the country. Hope he rots in hell.


3 posted on 07/01/2012 4:17:39 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else (Maybe Tim Thomas))
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Someone needs to tell the WaPo that none of the “Compromises” averted a Civil War.


5 posted on 07/01/2012 4:18:00 PM PDT by henkster (Why should I care? Why should I care?)
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"The Supreme Court’s health-care ruling is welcome because it is a compromise."

You don't compromise with the U.S. Constitution. Eroding the Constitution is eroding the liberty of the American people. A compromise with the socialists is always a move to the left toward socialist tyranny.

6 posted on 07/01/2012 4:18:57 PM PDT by PapaNew
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Second: Conservatism has no future if the country slides into division and dysfunction

ha ha ha projection!

7 posted on 07/01/2012 4:20:40 PM PDT by plain talk
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Roberts grasped two realities. First: In a great national debate, no side has a monopoly on wisdom. Second: Conservatism has no future if the country slides into division and dysfunction.

These are not realities; these are liberal tropes. Moreover, does not the WaPo consider that the job of the Supreme Court their ONLY job, really is to preserve and defend the Constitution? Or that in this effort, it is the Court's DUTY to divide those who love and support the Constitution from those who hate and revile it? And on the matter of dysfunction, without the Constitution as our fundamental law, the nation is ALREADY fundamentally and profoundly dysfunctional? It's also interesting that (at least in the quoted portion) the WoPo never deigns to mention the Constitution at all.

9 posted on 07/01/2012 4:23:33 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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"But the ruling is historic because it is a Compromise — a crisis-averting pact across lines of ideology, party and region, the likes of which we have not seen since pre-Civil War days. "

So, the powers that be are betting on the fact that they have another 40 years to milk the American public...

10 posted on 07/01/2012 4:25:12 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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"But the ruling is historic because it is a Compromise — a crisis-averting pact across lines of ideology, party and region, the likes of which we have not seen since pre-Civil War days. "

So, the powers that be are betting on the premise that they have another 40 years to milk the American public...

11 posted on 07/01/2012 4:25:38 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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Politician’s are supposed to compromise - not justices.


12 posted on 07/01/2012 4:26:01 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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Imagine if a Congress and a President passed a law saying that every American must attend a Christian Church service every Sunday or pay a fine. The Supreme Court says that due to the 1st amendment, government can’t mandate anyone go to church, but they can impose a tax on those who don’t. Huh?


13 posted on 07/01/2012 4:26:46 PM PDT by running_dog_lackey
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Yes, it was a compromise the likes of which has not been seen since pre-Civil War days. John Roberts can rest assured that he will take his place in legal history beside the authors of the Dred Scott decision.


14 posted on 07/01/2012 4:27:05 PM PDT by CaptainMorgantown
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They did not “overcome their differences”.


17 posted on 07/01/2012 4:32:51 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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” persuaded some court liberals to reciprocate.”

Bullshit. Roberts was all by himself on the Commerce Clause, which is supposedly the gain for conservatives in the decision. The doctrinaire leftists on the Court gave not an inch on that issue and specifically dissented on the Commerce Clause ruling.

As usual, the left compromised none at all and the right signed away the house but claim they cleverly achieved some nebulous moral victory.


18 posted on 07/01/2012 4:36:45 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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Vested with unlimited power as the SCOTUS Chief Justice, John Roberts managed to overreach: he passed a law the Congress had not passed. Four conservative Justices called him on it, saying in effect, “You’re on your own.” I say, “Too clever by half, and clearly unconstitutional.”


19 posted on 07/01/2012 4:43:36 PM PDT by Grampa3711 (Some people bring happiness wherever they go; others, whenever.)
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"Although he upheld the health care law on another basis, Roberts sided with the court’s four conservatives in declaring that Congress may not, under the Commerce Clause, force people to engage in a market transaction.

The five-member majority view effectively rewrites existing law. It’s the first time since before the 1942 case Wickard v. Filburn, a precedent that was affirmed in the 2005 case Gonzales v. Raich, that the Supreme Court has placed a limit on Congress’s authority make national economic regulation that substantially affects interstate commerce.,

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/chuck-schumer-john-roberts-broke-promise-commerce-clause-health-care-wickard-filburn-gonzales-raich.php

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I hope we don't realize the good he has done until Nov 7th.

20 posted on 07/01/2012 4:45:30 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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23 posted on 07/01/2012 5:12:41 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Maybe Benedict Roberts needs a hearing aid! CZAR B.O. and everyone in his adminstration who presented their legal arguments to the court said that the penalty was NOT a TAX. I guess Benedict didn't hear them.

So good old Benedict, afraid of what the Washington Compost and the NY Slimes would say about him, upheld the law by rewriting it. IMAGINE THAT, A CONSERVATIVE LEGISLATOR ON THE BENCH?

What happened to the limitation that a TAX cannot be appealed until it is being collected? CZAR B.O.'s TAX will be collected in 2014. NO STANDING?

Benedict's Court also did a wonderful job on the "Sovereign" State of Arizona! Although the Feds claim exclusive authority on Immigration, I wonder can a State require proof of legal presence, like the European Countries that we are so diligently trying to copy?
26 posted on 07/01/2012 7:02:34 PM PDT by leprechaun9
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The justices overcame their differences

Huh? Roberts did not convince a single liberal justice that the Commerce Clause limits government power.

The liberals took his bizarre "tax" opinion upholding ObamaCare as a surprise gift, kicked him in the balls, laughed and went on their way thinking to themselves what a fool that man was.

28 posted on 07/01/2012 7:42:51 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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the five-justice vote for a restrictive reading of the Constitution’s commerce clause caps that font of federal power.

Actually it does NOT "cap that font of federal power."

Roberts screwed the pooch on this.

Had he voted WITH the 4 conservatives to strike down ObamaCare as a violation of the Commerce Clause, then this decision would be binding precedent for the holding limiting the power of government under the Commerce Clause.

But as Ginsburg points out in her dissent, by deciding to uphold ObamaCare as a valid "tax," Roberts' long discussion of the Commerce Clause is beside the point. As far as legal precedent goes, Roberts could just as well have omitted that discussion entirely.

The liberal justices can take the position that because Roberts found a ground on which the tax can stand, his discussion of other grounds that might or might not trouble him is irrelevant and just blowing wind. It is, in legal terms, dicta, and therefore not binding precedent.

So if we get a 5-4 liberal court, the court does not even have to make a naked move to overrule binding Commerce Clause precedent in order to give the government unlimited power.

The liberals will simply point out that Roberts' bloviating on the Commerce Clause in the ObamaCare decision was just dicta and is not binding precedent.

29 posted on 07/01/2012 8:05:04 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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the likes of which we have not seen since pre-Civil War days.

That's what I'm afraid of.

Roger Taney was worried about the potential of war over slavery, so (he imagined) he would settle the issue once and for all, by opining that "a negro has no rights that any white man is bound to respect".

Similarly, John Roberts, fearful of conflict over our steady march to socialism, believes that he has settled the matter by opining that the written Constitution provides no protection to any man who opposes the march of progressivism, and that the plain words of a statute can and will be construed to mean something else if the plain words disadvantage progressives.

But, as was true of Dred Scott, the decision leaves the majority no way out through republican processes.

I wonder if Roberts can hear the distant thunder all the way to Malta?

30 posted on 07/01/2012 8:15:23 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Anna Wintour makes Teresa Heinz Kerry look like Dolly Parton.)
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