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Killing the Elderly Is Old News for Britain's NHS
The New American ^ | 6/27/2012 | R. Cort Kirkwood

Posted on 06/30/2012 6:05:48 AM PDT by IbJensen

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Time Magazine posted an article about just pulling the plug on Grandma, its easier and its cheaper, then people wonder why teenagers are ruthlessly harrassing an elderly woman on the bus, why should they have respect for their elders when Time magaizine and the President are teaching them not to. I am older than that woman on the bus, I have 4 grandchildren but I am not elderly, I'm 5 "11 and I am sitting here in my adidas and jeans, if one of those kids ever made the mistake of doing that to me I would have been in jail right after it and they would have been in the Hospital hoping no one is going to euthanize them. Sad state of affairs. We don't teach kids this, time magazine and this Obama care does.

The death panel wants to talk to me about death once a year? I don't want to talk about death, who does? I don't even know them, how stressful, I guess thats the idea, stress kills. Listen to the TV and the radio, where are the real commercials about soap poweder and deodorant, all you hear about is sickness and disease, and how to cure it, if you manage to get past the horrible side effects which go by so fast you can only catch a few words, like "swollen tongue" and "bloody stools", the best is "call your Doctor if you lose conciensousness". how does an unconcscious person do that and if they could manage to make the call what about the swollen tongue? the whole thing is ridiculous. I've never been sick a day in my life and they are not putting the horns on me now.

1 posted on 06/30/2012 6:05:54 AM PDT by IbJensen
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many of us should remember when Britain socialized their healthcare..cost went sky high and no one could get care except for the very rich=politicians and their friends. why not require politicians and their famileis to be on public health as part of their job.


2 posted on 06/30/2012 6:22:09 AM PDT by dalebert
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3 posted on 06/30/2012 6:23:47 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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ping...they rather kill us than stop spending..


4 posted on 06/30/2012 6:25:17 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: IbJensen

The savings need to come from somewhere.


5 posted on 06/30/2012 6:26:28 AM PDT by Brilliant
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Neither Osama Obama,Plugs Biden,Bella Pelosi,the Mormon from Nevada (you know,the good Mormon),Soros nor "Cher" will ever have to endure anything even remotely resembling this.Ordinary folks like you and I? Hmmm,what was that quote again? "I'm from the Government and I'm here to help".
6 posted on 06/30/2012 6:29:58 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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Michael Tennant reported last week, citing a story in London’s Daily Mail, NHS doctors and nurses killed 130,000 elderly using what they call the “Liverpool Care Pathway.” The Mail reported,

It can include withdrawal of treatment — including the provision of water and nourishment by tube — and on average brings a patient to death in 33 hours.

NHS officials, naturally, deny that the LCP is a euthanasia protocol and claim patients are removed from the “pathway” if they improve.

How could a patient possibly improve if they are not given food or water?

7 posted on 06/30/2012 6:34:13 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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Better to die at home in a clean bed, hydrated, fed, and surrounded by caring family.
Would you come to hospital, find your mother or father laying in filth, suffering from hunger and thirst, and then walk out of the place hoping the “staff” would do something?

I mean “you” as any of us...


8 posted on 06/30/2012 6:46:19 AM PDT by WestwardHo
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I’m so glad my mom is 87 and has some money. She will probably go before any of these kind of atrocities hit OUR society.


9 posted on 06/30/2012 6:58:50 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Gay State Conservative

Bella Pelosi - that’s absolutely brilliant. Can I steal it??


10 posted on 06/30/2012 6:59:49 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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Don’t expect any sympathy for the elderly from the generation that survived the abortion holocaust. Life is cheap, and at 70, your worth to the state is decreasing, so you’ve had enough. We hear frequently now that the most expensive medical care is in the last months of life. ObamaCare will fix that problem, just as Britain and Sweden do now.


11 posted on 06/30/2012 7:02:09 AM PDT by txrefugee
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Death Panel BUMP


12 posted on 06/30/2012 7:08:08 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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There was probably some unspoken truth behind those Benny Hill sketches of old folks being ignored in the hospitals.


13 posted on 06/30/2012 7:19:00 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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Bella Pelosi - that’s absolutely brilliant. Can I steal it??

Well,given that most of my most brilliant thoughts (including this one) are stolen from others it would be wrong for me to deny your request. ;-)

14 posted on 06/30/2012 7:39:50 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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To: miss marmelstein

Remember Karen Ann Quinlan and Terri Schiavo?


15 posted on 06/30/2012 7:48:37 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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"require politicians and their famileis to be on public health as part of their job."

Yes!

16 posted on 06/30/2012 7:55:39 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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Your post #8.

Better to die at home in a clean bed, hydrated,fed, and surrounded by caring family.

I heartily agree. I hope I am not remiss in posing a few thoughts on the UK elderly.

As a child goggle eyed being taking through a busy London Street in the late 1930s, I saw a poor aged woman begging and she was so deteriorated, I must have made a childish remark. My mother said to me, " you should remember, that lady was once a young girl and happy". I have always remembered about persons like that- what was their very best day? What did they look like then?

At the risk of a ramble, I would like to narrate the example in old Victorian England, hopefully drawn from life. Thomas Hardy, the great novelist wrote about the County of Dorset. A character was old "Grandfer Cantle". He would be humoured by tavern patrons and would sing " a stave or two". Realizing he was being humoured, he remembered when he was 21 years old and in uniform in the "Bang up locals" (militia). He said " you should have seen me rushing down to Boney's point." In 1805 it was rumoured Napoleon had invaded. "You should have seen me" he said, "sword at my side". He got free beer.

Excuse the ramble, glad I am in small city Canada.

17 posted on 06/30/2012 9:04:00 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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18 posted on 06/30/2012 9:29:22 AM PDT by WestwardHo
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To: Gay State Conservative

Just remember: steal only from the best!


19 posted on 06/30/2012 10:17:26 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Peter Libra

I remember the Hardy book to which you refer, but have forgotten the title. I recall it was about the folk who lived in the moors and the title character had just returned from France.


20 posted on 06/30/2012 10:51:55 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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