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The Case for John Roberts
The Weekly Standard ^ | 6:00 AM, Jun 29, 2012 | JAY COST

Posted on 06/29/2012 9:04:57 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Many conservatives are feeling betrayed by the chief justice's vote to uphold Obamacare. But there's a counterintuitive case to be made that John Roberts's decision is largely a victory for conservatives.

Every time I visit Washington, D.C., I am struck by a single, terrible thought: It is not just that conservatives are losing the various battles over big government, but they have been losing the war for generations. The most conservatives are ever able to do is tinker at the margins – and celebrating small victories like lowering marginal tax rates is a sign of just how low our sights are set.

Why has this happened? After all, this was a country founded in direct opposition to unlimited governmental power. How have we arrived at a point when the feds can do just about anything they want?

It is because, at critical moments in the nation’s history, the advocates of limited government were on the losing side of the political equation, and the opposition was very effective at consolidating its victory. Not only did big government advocates implement policy changes, they also brought about huge structural innovations to the way the government functions.

The progressives of the early 1900s managed this with the 16th Amendment, legalizing the income tax and opening up whole avenues of power that had been previously off limits. The political genius of that move must be admired: The left got its hands on the government for a relatively short period of time, but it sure made hay while the sun was out. We’re still paying the price today -- quite literally. Similarly, the New Deal took advantage of a national emergency to ram through ......

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; benedictroberts; deathpanels; jaycost; obamacare; scotus; zerocare
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
But there's a counterintuitive case to be made that John Roberts's decision is largely a victory for conservatives.

Reminds me of a quote from a famous thespian named Charlie Sheen. "WINNING!"

121 posted on 06/30/2012 12:44:33 AM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: Anti-Hillary

How did the left get Roberts? Drugs,sex maybe a gambling debt was fixed.
perhaps he is promised a private meeting with Sarah Jessica...

Remember the Chicago machine is at work.


122 posted on 06/30/2012 1:23:06 AM PDT by ChiMark (chewed up his body for a decade)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Roberts is a back stabbing, piece of shit who pissed on all Americans with his traitorous and duplicious ruling. His is total scum.


123 posted on 06/30/2012 1:32:55 AM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“But there’s a counterintuitive case to be made that John Roberts’s decision is largely a victory for conservatives.”

???????????????????????????????????????

The man set a precedent for allowing the SCOTUS to REWRITE a Federal Statue under review IN A FASHION DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED to what even its SUPPORTERS claim, in order to approve it!!!

Further, he helped write a decision which effectively ERASES the 10th Amendment!!

The bastard needs to be impeached!!

Muchas Gracias Jorge El Segundo!!


124 posted on 06/30/2012 3:31:43 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: doc1019
I just have a gut feeling that Roberts is playing a back game and his naysayers will be caught with their embarrassment showing.

Ok, what's this back game Robert's is playing? No matter HOW you look at this Robert's is completely wrong and has dealt a huge blow to this nation. Judging from the 4.6m in donations Romney received in a 24 hour period after the decision I'd say people are POed!

The only way this country survives I believe is a majority of the American people have to TROUNCE Obama and his ilk in November. Then congress has to muster enough votes to repeal this travesty!

In essence this is what Robert's would be counting on if this was his plan, however idiotic it may be. The fact would still remain he usurped the constitution!

125 posted on 06/30/2012 3:35:11 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The majority of people, smart or dumb, want to be liked. Roberts despite his credentials made this decision with a high school mentality. He wants to be liked by those in his social circle. He wants to be invited to the cool parties. In DC that means if you are a conservative you must “evolve”. We have seen this time after time. In the future we must nominate conservative justices that not only have shown conservative views but also have the personality that just does not give a damn about being liked.


126 posted on 06/30/2012 4:09:52 AM PDT by gusty
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“But there’s a counterintuitive case to be made that John Roberts’s decision is largely a victory for conservatives.”

Counterintuitive because it lacks honesty and reason.

In good fiction Roberts decision would be a sly back game, but in the real world it is more likely to be the result of the application of the Chicago way.


127 posted on 06/30/2012 4:22:00 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: doc1019
As I have posed several times here about Robert’s decision: Before I join any group and dump all over Roberts, I think I will wait and see how this plays out as we approach the elections. I just have a gut feeling that Roberts is playing a back game and his naysayers will be caught with their embarrassment showing. I think, in the end, Roberts will be exonerated. I could be wrong, but for now I will just wait this one out before condemning him.

How in the hell, and in what form of sanity, could a supposedly conservative, Chief Judge of SCOTUS, rewrite a key point in an un-Constitutional bill, expand the power of the government to tax anything it can possibly conceive of, in order to force the People into acquiescing to un-Constitutional demands, be considered a brilliant end-game?

That's like saying Holder and Obama will be vindicated when it becomes obvious that they were trying to screw us and we caught on to their atrocity...

128 posted on 06/30/2012 4:39:14 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: doc1019

I just have a gut feeling that Roberts is playing a back game and his naysayers will be caught with their embarrassment showing.

A back game that involves unconstitutional rulings. He could have ruled that there are limits to the use of the interstate commerce clause, but he didn’t.


129 posted on 06/30/2012 4:57:05 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Jack Hammer

The Founding Fathers did their level best to take that into account and design a “fool proof” republic. Alas, clearly they failed.

What killed the constitution was eliminating the possibility of states leaving the union when things became intolerable.


130 posted on 06/30/2012 4:58:52 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The progressives of the early 1900s managed this with the 16th Amendment, legalizing the income tax and opening up whole avenues of power that had been previously off limits

And the VAST majority of Americans support the higher tax rates for the rich etc etc not thinking that eventually it would bite them in the ass


131 posted on 06/30/2012 5:01:10 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

jay cost... you and roberts are both liars, cheaters and thieves. There is no VICTORY in DEFEAT and no excuse that can cover the treason of john roberts. We are not angry... we are at WAR with you!

LLS


132 posted on 06/30/2012 5:02:20 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: sand88
Roberts is a very, very evil man. His unconstitutional decision will cause untold misery to millions upon millions of Americans.

All this hatred of Roberts masks the real problem--the dumbed down brainwashed boob voters who elected Obama --the left wing MSM and school systems


133 posted on 06/30/2012 5:07:14 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: precisionshootist

He doesn’t have to worry about health care,or having to
die on reduced Medicare for the glory of the state!


134 posted on 06/30/2012 5:09:37 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Salvation

Under normal circumstances, a Supreme Court justice is awarded a lifetime commission.

A Supreme Court Justice may be impeached by the House of Representatives and removed from office if convicted in a Senate trial, but only for the same types of offenses that would trigger impeachment proceedings for any other government official under Articles I and II of the Constitution.

Article III, Section 1 states that judges of Article III courts shall hold their offices “during good behavior.” “The phrase “good behavior” has been interpreted by the courts to equate to the same level of seriousness ‘high crimes and misdemeanors” encompasses.

In addition, any federal judge may prosecuted in the criminal courts for criminal activity. If found guilty of a crime in a federal district court, the justice would face the same type of sentencing any other criminal defendant would. The district court could not remove him/her from the Bench. However, any justice found guilty in the criminal courts of any felony would certainly be impeached and, if found guilty, removed from office.

In the United States, impeachment is most often used to remove corrupt lower-court federal judges from office, but it’s not unusual to find disgruntled special interest groups circulating petitions on the internet calling for the impeachment of one or all members of the High Court.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_a_US_Supreme_Court_justice_be_impeached_and_removed_from_office#ixzz1zHHyQUXU


135 posted on 06/30/2012 5:10:28 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: wolf24
You can't be right. After all, George Will, Jay Cost, and Charles Krauthammer said so....

I am still waiting for that MSM coverage of Fast and Furious that Krauthammer said was now a sure thing
136 posted on 06/30/2012 5:10:53 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: freedomfiter2

If that was the case he could have convinced one of the others that aren’t leftists. Didn’t happen.

There is no pony.

It is the Vision of the Warren Court all over again. It’s that simple. Some are made to ride — some are made to be ridden.


137 posted on 06/30/2012 5:11:44 AM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

In my opinion, Justice Roberts, who is a very intelligent man, allowed this issue to pass the Supreme Court for a significant reason. He knows that this country needs to defeat Obama in November, and with the approval of this healthcare item, the voter’s who now are labeled as independents and voter’s who are undecided who to vote for, now are at the point where they’ve had enough of BOZO and will vote for Romney in November. I am holding judgement on Justice Roberts for now, but that’s my opinion.


138 posted on 06/30/2012 5:20:22 AM PDT by Spike the punch
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To: freedomfiter2
What is it about a Chief SCOTUS Justice violating his oath of office, making rulings that go against the US Constitution, Legislating from the bench as a political activist and making decisions based upon a political chess board... being the highest from of treason a black robed jurist can commit... don't you people understand? Even if roberts was motivated in this decision based on some brilliant political game, it would disqualify him from holding office and he would not deserve to sit on any bench and should he tried for treason.

LLS

139 posted on 06/30/2012 5:21:31 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: doc1019
"I just have a gut feeling that Roberts Benedict Arnold is playing a back game and his naysayers will be caught with their embarrassment showing. I think, in the end, Roberts Benedict Arnold will be exonerated."
140 posted on 06/30/2012 5:21:33 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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