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1 posted on 06/28/2012 1:25:08 PM PDT by Bob Ireland
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To: Bob Ireland

I agree with what you said 100%. Barry is on his way to re-election in November and we’ll be lucky to hold the House with a very slim majority which will mean little.


2 posted on 06/28/2012 1:29:42 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Constitution?!)
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To: Bob Ireland

Prohibition


3 posted on 06/28/2012 1:30:12 PM PDT by sorrisi (CAP spending and TRADE Congress!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Bob Ireland
I can't spell his name but he was a dictator that was either hanged or shot in europe.
4 posted on 06/28/2012 1:31:28 PM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: Jim Robinson; MinuteGal; gonzo; JulieRNR21; seekthetruth; M Kehoe; Matchett-PI; mcmuffin; surfer

ping


5 posted on 06/28/2012 1:31:44 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Bob Ireland

yup. those who think that any of this is ‘good news’ for our side are delusional


6 posted on 06/28/2012 1:32:08 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Bob Ireland
name one tyranny in history that was overturned by popular vote.

Prohibition?

But right, usually we have been able to trust the courts to be the last ditch safeguards of liberty against an abusive president +/or legislature. This bill should have been treated like FDR's National Recovery Act--overtly derided by justices and repudiated 9-0. But that was then, and the excesses of the New Deal have been sanitized and swallowed whole by the idiots of The Law. In our "Post-Constitutional Court" the NRA would be upheld today.

7 posted on 06/28/2012 1:32:59 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Bob Ireland

Just because it hasn’t been done doesn’t mean it can’t...or won’t... be done.


12 posted on 06/28/2012 1:38:43 PM PDT by Keeper of the Turf (Fore!!!)
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To: Bob Ireland

And a mandatory term or retirement age for “justices” and “judges” so they don’t get too comfy or insulated from the practical effects of their decisions


13 posted on 06/28/2012 1:40:37 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (.)
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To: Bob Ireland

Americans want tyranny. Americans vote in big ways and small ways for tyranny. No excusing seat belt laws. No excusing prohibition. No excusing intrusive city ordinances or heavy handed neighborhood associations. Ethanol subsidies, sugar tarrifs, Union laws, the list goes on and on.

Americans want weak States and a powerful Federal Government. Americans want a King.


15 posted on 06/28/2012 1:45:21 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: Bob Ireland

The Republic is dead.


16 posted on 06/28/2012 1:47:38 PM PDT by Bull Man
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To: Bob Ireland
I agree with you for the most part. Thinking we are somehow going to right all that has gone wrong by voting in November is delusional at best. The Supreme Court has finalized the installment of a totalitarian government which has by definition no limits to it's power. Hoping we are going to "Vote" ourselves free in a general election is like planning to solve your financial problems by winning the power ball. It's not likely to happen. Now, November is comming and yes we should certainly try to do it that way but we need a back up plan or maybe even a primary plan with the election being the back up. That plan is a Constitutional Convention. Where we differ is I don't think a breakup of the Republic is the way to go. Simply use the Convention to amend the constitution and strictly limit the federal government as intended by the founders. It's past time to fix the bugs in the system that allowed the disease of government to grow wildly out of control.

Yes it's time to call a Constitutional Convention. The "red" conservative states outnumber the blue by a significant margin. We need to start to the process now as it will take quite a while. First is to decide by discussion amongst conservatives what amendments will be proposed. Obviously libs will have exactly ZERO input in this process.

Then we move to convention where our superior numbers will decide the proposed amendments. Then we put the vote to the states for ratification.

This is the readers digest version but that's it in a nutshell.

We have nothing to fear. We have the numbers. We have the will of the people. We have the blessing of god. We have the duty to take back our freedom. It is this very day that the framers had in mind when they wrote in the option to amend the Constitution by Convention. Now it is time to act.

18 posted on 06/28/2012 1:55:37 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Bob Ireland

I used to believe that it would be impossible to roll back the gun laws, but we have made incredible gains over the last 15 years or so.


20 posted on 06/28/2012 1:59:50 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: Bob Ireland

It is now a TAX and therefore easier to get rid of it. How many D Senators want to be responsible for voting in the BIGGEST TAX HIKE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD ???


24 posted on 06/28/2012 2:07:06 PM PDT by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: Bob Ireland

Women’s right to vote

Blacks right to vote


27 posted on 06/28/2012 2:13:19 PM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: vortigern
Remember this?:
This decision today is why it is imperative that the next SCOTUS appointee be a Conservative
...and my reply:
...like john Roberts?

Know what I mean?

36 posted on 06/28/2012 2:26:52 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Bob Ireland; Neil E. Wright
Good to see you're still around and mostly agree with you.

This my first post about this liberty busting decision. I've waited for people to sort this out and here is my opinion:

While it's now law that the Fedgov can dictate purchase of product/services OR pay additional tax, there was some curtailment to the ever over-reaching laws regarding the "commerce clause". That's a good thing. It's now "law of the land".

As I see it, our only hope is enough States get together and NULLIFY this decision. Then what would the current/future Executive Branch do? Send in the military to enforce against the States? Not likely. Even Obambi doesn't have the nerve to try that and force a State versus Fedgov revolution. No one has the stomach for a new Revolution nor a Civil War II.

With hold tax money to the States? Okay. That's one option for the Fedgov, but the States can also refuse to forward collected taxes. Again, what what the Fedgov do?

Don't forget there already some 3 States that have passed State laws against Obambicare. There were 26 States opposing Obamacare in this suit. If those 26 (or even less) decide to opt out, there is NO Obambicare. Of course that issue will works its way through the courts, also.

I see our only hope is from State Governors NULLIFYING this USSC decision and refusing to cooperate. There are no other remedies unless we maintain the House, get a filibuster proof Senate, and a President that will sign a repeal. I doubt the Senate super-majority will happen and don't trust Romney to sign. Tell me where I'm wrong.

What is not being talked about on MSM is the precedence this has set. As we all know, until Obambicare (and other Obambi policies/executive orders), the socialists have moved slowly and methodically to force their ideals on all. Give it time it will become a focal point about States' rights.

STATES' RIGHTS!
Liberty starts in your home State.

40 posted on 06/28/2012 2:42:07 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: Bob Ireland
You're a hotheaded moron.

A constitutional convention is the last thing you want since they are not limited in agenda. You'd have abortion enshrined, the ERA, marriage of any sort imaginable, single-payer, tax policy you couldn't fathom, etc., etc.

If ObamaCare was going to be upheld, this was the least awful, least damaging outcome.

46 posted on 06/28/2012 3:08:46 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: Bob Ireland

We still have an economic collapse on our side. It will not be a peaceful vote that will overturn all this, but a Soviet Union style collapse which finally will.


50 posted on 06/28/2012 3:59:31 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Bob Ireland
Hi Guy. We need to get together soon. Leni said she's having an election party at her place. Methinks this time will be different than last time.

You already know what I think about a constitutional convention from my post to you a few days ago...methinks it will eventually lead to CWII.

Then again, the Constitution does provide for a reset button. Maybe it's time to reboot.

Take care of yourself.

5.56mm

51 posted on 06/28/2012 4:06:15 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Bob Ireland; blam; helpfulresearcher; HiTech RedNeck; riverrunner; Quix; Alamo-Girl; M. Espinola; ..
People may be very surpise by new developments later this year and beginning for real in 2013:

Americans Are Being Prepared For Full Spectrum Tyranny !

Excerpt:

* * * Revamped security protocols call for biometric data collection, including fingerprint and retina scans, and a tunnel which combines multiple detection systems into one area (who knows how radioactive this will end up being):

http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/story/2012-06-19/Faster-better-airport-security-checkpoints-not-that-far-off/55693916/1

The mainstream article above makes this development sound like a win/win scenario for everyone, painting biometric data collection as a matter of convenience, but it also reveals the true design of the system; to illicit voluntary subservience * * *

Arms Race Against the People?

When a country is quietly preparing for war, the first signs are usually revealed by a disclosure of armaments. If stockpiling is taking place without a warranted threat present from a legitimate enemy, there is a considerable likelihood of aggression on the part of that nation. America has gone well beyond the psychological process of militarization and has begun the extensive arming of particular agencies whose primary purpose revolves around the domestic.

The DHS, for instance, placed an order for over 450 million rounds of hollowpoint .40 cal ammunition in April of this year:

http://rt.com/usa/news/dhs-million-point-government-179/

And it placed an order for over 7000 new semi-automatic combat rifles chambered in .223 (5.56 by 45mm NATO) immediately after:

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d791b6aa0fd9d3d8833b2efa08300033&tab=core&tabmode=list&=


60 posted on 06/29/2012 8:50:40 AM PDT by ex-Texan ((Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20))
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