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Affordable Care Act SCOTUS Decision--Live Thread
SCOTUSblog ^ | June 28, 2012 | SCOTUSblog

Posted on 06/28/2012 4:56:21 AM PDT by John W

Today is the day. SCOTUSblog live at 8:45 AM.

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To: MinuteGal

I am talking about the timing of this ruling and its actual effect. Look at the date events. Look who wrote it. This is a tax on dhimmis and infidels... That it is under the health care umbrella hides all the other impacts...agencies, green crap 4 health, halal food, etc.

It’s going hand in hand with passage on Christmas Eve.

AQ at 1600 PA Av (get it?) is pleased.


701 posted on 06/28/2012 9:20:38 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Seniors save about $600 ???

Many seniors pay $1000 a month on medicine...


702 posted on 06/28/2012 9:21:00 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: rottndog

“If they passed the bill in its’ entirety through reconciliation, they can repeal the in its’ entirety through reconciliation.

It just requires sufficient testicular fortitude of at least 51 senators.”


They didn’t pass the bill in its entirety through reconciliation. The House approved the Senate version of the bill (the one that didn’t ban public funds for abortion that passed back when the RATs had 60 Senators). What was approved through reconciliation was a separate bill that tweaked some things (it did not include any anti-abortion language; those idiotic “pro-life” Democrats fell in line because Obama issued an executive order or something on abortion that he quickly went back on through Sebelius’s regulations).


703 posted on 06/28/2012 9:23:42 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: animal172

“if the individual mandate is now law and everyone must buy health insurance, why the provision that those up to the age of 26 can remain on their parents insurance? Won’t they have to buy their own now?”

No. Some bureaucrat will issue a regulation that the law should be interpreted that the parents (most likely richer than their young kids, therefore evil) are mandated to purchase the insurance for the kids. In other words the “can remain” will be changed to “must remain”.


704 posted on 06/28/2012 9:24:06 AM PDT by Stat Man
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To: reegs
Yep, you’re right. Thanks for the correction. I guess we should all be brushing up on our Arabic.

نعم

Note: That's "yes"

705 posted on 06/28/2012 9:25:26 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Thank you for your analysis. I am still in shock.


706 posted on 06/28/2012 9:25:34 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: kabar

I guess I had that coming.


707 posted on 06/28/2012 9:27:02 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: John W
CNBC Admits We're All Slaves To Central Banker Global Government !
708 posted on 06/28/2012 9:27:21 AM PDT by ex-Texan ((Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20))
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To: untwist
Interesting for those beating up on Roberts -

"Also discussing the courtroom as the decision was handed down: Jeff Toobin tweets, "Roberts was red-eyed and unhappy as he read."

709 posted on 06/28/2012 9:28:34 AM PDT by paul544
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To: Shelayne

it’s beyond disappointing.


710 posted on 06/28/2012 9:28:49 AM PDT by luvie (Never forget...WE have THEM surrounded! ~ Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Windflier
You can tell them whatever you please, they don't give a damn. They will continue to do as they please.

The only silver lining to an otherwise black cloud isthat the American fool, a/k/a American voter is finally going to get what they voted for. That it will end up costing them their lives is besides the point. Stupid people do not survive long in the jungle. Be it nature's jungle or the political jungle.

As for us, until we reach the point it is better to die on our feet fighting than to live trembleing on our knees, expect more of the same. And last but not least, anyone who expects Romney to abolish obamacare is barking up the wrong tree.

711 posted on 06/28/2012 9:31:02 AM PDT by sport
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To: paul544

Boo Hoo


712 posted on 06/28/2012 9:31:39 AM PDT by surrey
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To: struggle
ROBERTS CONFIRMATION HEARING
SEPTEMBER 13, 2005

Senator CHARLES GRASSLEY (R – Iowa): History has provided many examples of the dangers of government by the judiciary, such as the courts decision in Dred Scott. Do you share President Lincoln’s concerns and I’m going to quote here from his first Inaugural. Quote, ‘if the policy of the government upon vital questions affecting the whole people is to be irrevocably fixed by the decisions of the Supreme Court, the instant they made in ordinary litigation, the people will have ceased to be their own rulers.’

Judge JOHN ROBERTS: Well, President Lincoln, of course, was referring to one of the, perhaps the most, egregious examples of judicial activism in our history, the Dred Scott case. In which the court went far beyond what was necessary to decide the case, and really I think historians would say that the Supreme Court tried to put itself in the position of resolving the dispute about the extension of slavery and resolving it in a particular way that it thought was best for the nation. And we saw what disastrous consequences flowed from that.

ROBERTS OBAMACARE DECISION
JUNE 28, 2012

First, and most importantly, it is abundantly clear the Constitution does not guarantee that individuals may avoid taxation through inactivity. The Federal Government does have the power to impose a tax on those without health insurance.
713 posted on 06/28/2012 9:33:35 AM PDT by xeno
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To: Perdogg
Don’t let the tinfoilers,the Nattery Naybobs, and the nutters who think Roberts is being blackmailed, or is paid by Soros, get to you.

Now that the ruling's come out, I think you owe tinfoilers at the least an apology.

714 posted on 06/28/2012 9:35:03 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: sport
I wonder if the Obamacare provisions are limited to the US and its possessions and territories like Medicare? If so, there is the option of becoming an expat to get out from under the heal of the oppressor.
715 posted on 06/28/2012 9:35:56 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: paul544

>”Also discussing the courtroom as the decision was handed down: Jeff Toobin tweets, “Roberts was red-eyed and unhappy as he read.”<

Coward. IF he was threatened, how many of our soldiers have thrown themselves on grenades to protect our country, fully understanding the cost? I have no sympathy for ANY discomfort this individual may be feeling.

I hope he feels guilt for the rest of his time on the bench.


716 posted on 06/28/2012 9:40:20 AM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: JediJones

“It’s a matter of getting enough of the public behind it to put pressure on enough of the softer Democrats to peel them off to our side. I think the right kind of anti-tax amendment would be as popular as the anti-gay marriage legislation is in the vast majority of the states.”

Do you live in a conservative state and not realize how many liberals and apolitical people other states have? Do you read polling data?

Anti-gay marriage legislation passes in conservative states and in liberal states where legislation can be passed by the people via ballot initiative. But there will be no anti-gay marriage Constitutional amendment or anti-tax amendment. Conservatives who care enough about these issues to put pressure on politicians are only about 1/3 of the population. That’s not enough to get a Constitutional amendment through a rigorous process that needs nearly unanimous consensus. Sadly, too few people care. I hope you’re right and I’m wrong, but I seriously doubt it.


717 posted on 06/28/2012 9:41:36 AM PDT by Stat Man
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To: daisy mae for the usa

Is there only one side to your coin? You make a post accusing people who would vote against little barry by voting for Rominy as not ‘real Chrsitians’ ... yes, that is the meta communication you tried to float. Now you want to demand someone usign the same strategy in reverse halt in their tracks? ... The word hypocritical comes to mind immediately!


718 posted on 06/28/2012 9:44:26 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Palmetto Patriot
Tax = Budget = Reconciliation = 50 votes in the Senate + Republican VP.

REPEAL THE TAX!!!

719 posted on 06/28/2012 9:46:48 AM PDT by SuperSonic (When news breaks, we fix it! - FreeRepublic.com)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Yes, good luck with that...

Oh thank heaven Obama is here to save us. /s


720 posted on 06/28/2012 9:47:14 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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