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To: Gargantua
FOR REFERENCE:
MISCONCEPTIONS

THIS VID YOU POSTED CONFUSES THE ISSUE. It is about GUNRUNNER, a legit op started under bush. It was perverted under obama to F&F.

22 posted on 06/22/2012 11:38:42 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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From David Codrea:

A lot of them are out there concerning Gunrunner, like finding the Ogden video and the $10M funding are proof Obama ordered guns walked. No--those are only proof that a known project was authorized by the government--not in secret, but with press releases and everything.

GUNRUNNER has been well known. For a long time. See those "Journalist Guide" icons in the left margin of my WarOnGuns blog? Guess where I got the cover art to modify from? And Gunrunner is NOT synonymous with Fast and Furious--that was a component strategy presented as a sting op. that turned out to be something else.

Mike and I are concerned with gunWALKING--where the stated mission was deviated from with the criminal conspiracy we now see unfolding.

Suddenly I am being hit with a wave of tips about the old known stuff like it's being discovered for the first time--for many, I'm sure it is. I don't know if the genesis of that originates from people not knowing the history of this and jumping in to be helpful and spread the word, or if there is intent to sow confusion and misdirection.

Either way, it does not help, and can actually hurt. A lot.

23 posted on 06/22/2012 11:42:54 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: MestaMachine
It is confusing. Project Gunrunner was the agency-wide program. F&F was part of Project Gunrunner out of the Tucson ATF office just as Operation Castaway was, which ran guns to Honduras out of the Tampa ATF office, as a part of Project Gunrunner. One of the guns used to kill ICE Agent Jaime Zapata was “walked” from a Texas gun shop so that would have been a different ATF operation than F&F too but still part of Project Gunrunner.

0baMugabe, Holder and Napolitano have used that confusion to deliberately muddy the waters.

While the weapons found at the Zapata murder scene were not from among the Fast and Furious guns, this revelation is profoundly significant, because it directly contradicts sworn testimony by Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.

“I have no information to that effect, no. I don’t know one way or the other,” she replied to a direct question on any Fast and Furious connection by Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas.

Word games. Here's the little trick Napolitano, Holder and ATF are playing. F&F was an ATF operation run out of the Tucson AZ office. But some guns were walked out of Texas gun shops which puts them in the jurisdiction of Texas ATF offices so those ops must have had other names. So far I have not seen any reporting on what those op names were.

So you are right that Project Gunrunner was a legitimate program begun in 2005 under Bush but it is still the name of the program used when 0bama came into office and is the umbrella program for all of the criminally insane local ATF operations run since his ascension to the throne.

38 posted on 06/23/2012 9:05:09 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: MestaMachine
Both Holder (under questioning by the House Oversight Committee) and Obama's new mouthpiece (Jay Carney) have said on any mumber of occasions that Fast & Furious was (is) just an extension of the Bush program known as "Wide Receiver." Bush shut down "Wide Receiver" long before O'Bunghole took office.

All of them—"Wide Receiver", "Fast & Furious", "Gunwalker", etc.—are one and the same since Obama took office. For this venal Quisling to state for the record that, on the one hand, he had (as announced in the 2009 video used as the basis for this post) a legitimate "Gun Walking" program in place, and then there was this new "Fast & Furious" program which was started by the ATF's Arizona Field Office without his or Holder's knowledge is absurd! Doesn't begin to pass the smell-test.

It is also typical of the "Watch the Left Hand" obfuscation which has become a hallmark of this felonious bandersnatch of a Manchurian non-President bastard weasel jerk. Pig-dog.

;-\

39 posted on 06/23/2012 9:06:39 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Barack O'Bunga--America's first gay president...")
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