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White House Has Asserted Executive Privilege on ‘Fast and Furious’ Documents
Fox New Insider ^ | 20 June 2012

Posted on 06/20/2012 7:07:01 AM PDT by Fractal Trader

The White House has asserted executive privilege over documents related to the ‘Fast and Furious’ scandal.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnewsinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; ffexecutiveprivilege; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; murdergate; obama
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To: Fractal Trader

Obama’s hiding something big. Really big. If these docs come out, he will likely be impeached


351 posted on 06/20/2012 10:44:14 AM PDT by therightliveswithus
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To: kevao

352 posted on 06/20/2012 10:47:06 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: exit82
nice post and link

looks like it was under Ike that the privilege got to the point where Obama could claim it as he has now simply on behalf of communications between executive branch employees

though under Nixon judges chipped at a that a bit calling it “not absolute”

looks like a work in progress does it not?

353 posted on 06/20/2012 10:47:23 AM PDT by wardaddy (i eat more chicken than any man ever seen....)
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To: kevao

Stole if from another freeper, but also heard it on Rush...Don’t know who started it.

My creations include BLANK-O for the X governor of IL
FerretCON for uncle Louie

You are welcome to use them too.

IMO:”It’s the Cover-Up, Stupid” should be used as often as “I’s the Economy, Stupid!”

Any way to make fun of the ____________________.


354 posted on 06/20/2012 10:47:35 AM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya.".. he's lying now or then?)
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To: hoosiermama

Thanks, made the call. Hopefully they are getting flooded with calls to support Issa.


355 posted on 06/20/2012 10:49:01 AM PDT by hope
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To: hope

Romney Press Secretary Andrea Saul attacked President Barack Obama’s decision to invoke executive privilege on documents pertaining to the Fast and Furious scandal requested by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.

“President Obama’s pledge to run the most open and transparent administration in history has turned out to be just another broken promise,” she said in a statement to BuzzFeed.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/romney-campaign-says-obama-fast-and-furious-decisi


356 posted on 06/20/2012 10:52:58 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: All
President Obama has invoked “Executive Privilege” in order to protect Eric Holder. It’s time to invoke your Citizen Privilege and demand answers! Add your name to the list of Americans who want answers about the Fast & Furious gun running scandal. Tell President Obama to come clean about what he’s hiding!
357 posted on 06/20/2012 10:52:58 AM PDT by hope
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To: hope

No communication yet from the White House on the Executive Privilege.


358 posted on 06/20/2012 10:54:19 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: jiggyboy

The DUmp’s Ministry of Truth is taking note of the non-compliant postings:

Godhumor (2,835 posts)
“52. Whew! MIRT is going to be busy on this thread.”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=148151

(MIRT = Malicious Intruder Reponse Team)


359 posted on 06/20/2012 10:56:16 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: RummyChick
Fast And Furious: Executive Privilege Is Illegitimate to Shield Wrongdoing
360 posted on 06/20/2012 10:58:39 AM PDT by hope
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To: hoosiermama

I just called too- nice young woman (press 4) said they’re getting lots of calls on this...she is passing on the messages to Issa.


361 posted on 06/20/2012 11:03:36 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: hope; RummyChick; STARWISE

This article needs it’s own thread to draw attention to it’s message.


362 posted on 06/20/2012 11:03:36 AM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya.".. he's lying now or then?)
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To: hope

Made my call. A lovely young woman answered and was genuinely thankful for the support!

Here is the number, once again:

202-225-3906 ext 4 to speak with a live person!


363 posted on 06/20/2012 11:04:25 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: hope
Per Twitter Issa..UPDATE: House votes expected to end at 220 PM EST. ‪#fastandfurious‬ contempt will continue 15 minutes after at http://fastandfuriousinvestigation.com
364 posted on 06/20/2012 11:05:52 AM PDT by hope
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To: SE Mom

Darrell Issa;@DarrellIssa
RT @TGowdySC: ICYMI- @MikeEmanuelFox segment on #FastandFurious and #AG Holder. http://youtu.be/yE27ljLnHxM

20m Darrell Issa;@DarrellIssa
UPDATE: House votes expected to end at 220 PM EST. #fastandfurious contempt will continue 15 minutes after at http://fastandfuriousinvestigation.com

41m Darrell Issa;@DarrellIssa
We’ll keep you posted when the committee will reconvene for votes on #Fastandfurious #contempt for AG #EricHolder

41m Darrell Issa;@DarrellIssa
Here’s a #Fastandfurious @YouTube playlist with everything from the last 18 months (including today as we add them): http://bit.ly/vznJ8T

43m Darrell Issa;@DarrellIssa
Catch up on this morning’s action at http://YouTube.com/Oversightandreform

43m Darrell Issa;@DarrellIssa
Stay tuned at http://Fastandfuriousinvestigation.com. During recess, we’ll be churning videos from this AM.

43m Darrell Issa;@DarrellIssa
We’re recessing until 10 minutes after the last vote on the floor (which are supposed to be about 130 PM EST)

http://twitter.com/#!/darrellissa


365 posted on 06/20/2012 11:07:17 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: bonfire; hope; RummyChick; STARWISE

Let’s make sure this phone number gets posted on all the F & F threads.

BTW Congressman Chaffic (sp) just on FOX...Excellent presentation. Time line and empahsis on the murders.


366 posted on 06/20/2012 11:09:15 AM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya.".. he's lying now or then?)
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To: hoosiermama

Didn’t Baloney Maloney already say all of this before the break. Or am I watching a repeat ;-)


367 posted on 06/20/2012 11:11:01 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Not sure. Have been in and out all day.


368 posted on 06/20/2012 11:12:19 AM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya.".. he's lying now or then?)
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To: RummyChick

369 posted on 06/20/2012 11:13:25 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: hoosiermama; holdonnow

I need a legal beagle to explain something. On FOX a little while ago Chris Plante was debating with a lib about F & F. The lib’s stance is that NONE of the remaining paperwork being requested by Issa CAN be turned over as it’s “lawyer work-product” and as such is somehow sacred.


370 posted on 06/20/2012 11:17:14 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

He if full of crap (and so is Holder/Obama)...

Holder had urged Obama to assert the privilege in a letter (PDF) dispatched Tuesday evening. Holder wrote that sharing the internal documents could have “significant, damaging consequences” and would “inhibit candor” of future executive branch deliberations.

The Justice Department has turned over 7,600 pages of Fast and Furious documents, but Issa wants additional information about department deliberations that occurred after questions were raised about the probe, the Post says. Republicans want to know why the department issued and then withdrew a February 2011 letter to Congress saying officials had only recently learned of the Fast and Furious program.

Holder wrote in his letter to Obama that a congressional committee cannot defeat a claim of executive privilege unless the requested documents are “demonstrably critical” to responsible fulfillment of legitimate committee legislative functions. In this case, he said, the standard was not met.

Forcing the executive branch to turn over documents about its response to oversight inquiries “would create a detrimental dynamic that is quite similar to what would occur in litigation if lawyers had to disclose to adversaries their deliberations about the case,” Holder said. “As the Supreme Court recognized in establishing the attorney work product doctrine, ‘it is essential that a lawyer work with a certain degree of privacy, free from unnecessary intrusion by opposing parties and their counsel.’ ”

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/obama_asserts_executive_privilege_in_congressional_probe_of_fast_and_furiou/


371 posted on 06/20/2012 11:21:14 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: SE Mom

I’m calling BS. That would only be true if no crime was involved. Perjury and cover-up of conspiracy to murder are both crimes. A lawyer can’t help hide evidence of a crime.


372 posted on 06/20/2012 11:22:10 AM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya.".. he's lying now or then?)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I think Hillary is in this “deeply”. She is SOS. She is responsible for anything happening involving USA and any other entity. They are all going to fall like a house of cards.


373 posted on 06/20/2012 11:23:14 AM PDT by DrDude (Governor of the 57th State)
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To: kcvl

The AG office serves as lawyer to The People, he does NOT serve as personal lawyer to the president; therefore, BO is NOT his client and no privilege is in order. We went through this with Nixon.


374 posted on 06/20/2012 11:26:22 AM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya.".. he's lying now or then?)
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To: Fractal Trader

If it’s “executive privilege,” then the WH is acknowledging that this was a program authorized at a high level in the Administration, not just Justice on a spree.


375 posted on 06/20/2012 11:27:19 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: hoosiermama

This is also a crock....(what is the legitimate committee functions if not to investigate the killing of a Fed. employee by illegal guns distributed BY THEM?!)

They are so over their heads that I would laugh if it wasn’t so serious!

******

Holder wrote in his letter to Obama that a congressional committee cannot defeat a claim of executive privilege unless the requested documents are “demonstrably critical” to responsible fulfillment of legitimate committee legislative functions. In this case, he said, the standard was not met.


376 posted on 06/20/2012 11:34:04 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

“Standard not met” is only his opinion. I’d say he’s too close the the “case” to issue an opinion.


377 posted on 06/20/2012 11:37:21 AM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya.".. he's lying now or then?)
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Gaveled back in...


378 posted on 06/20/2012 11:40:19 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO and all your terrorist buddies)
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To: hope

Made my call. A lovely young woman answered and was genuinely thankful for the support!

Here is the number, once again:

202-225-3906 ext 4 to speak with a live person!


379 posted on 06/20/2012 11:40:58 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: hope

Made my call. A lovely young woman answered and was genuinely thankful for the support!

Here is the number, once again:

202-225-3906 ext 4 to speak with a live person!


380 posted on 06/20/2012 11:41:03 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: PapaBear3625
'What did he know, and When did he know it?' "

Use the classic leftist line against them.

381 posted on 06/20/2012 11:41:09 AM PDT by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: RummyChick

The CSPAN3 link posted here earlier was replaying this morning’s testimony. Looks like they’re live with continuing speeches now.


382 posted on 06/20/2012 11:44:24 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Principled

Thanks for the update about the testimony withdrawals.

They know, Holder and Obama , that they have stepped in this thigh deep, and desperation is setting in.

Now it makes the Dems on the Committee, who all fell on their swords on Holder’s behalf today, look monumentally stupid.

Like THAT took any effort.

Pass the popcorn!!!


383 posted on 06/20/2012 11:46:12 AM PDT by exit82
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To: SE Mom
Issa pushes ahead with Holder contempt vote despite Obama intervention
384 posted on 06/20/2012 11:46:40 AM PDT by hope
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To: jiggyboy

getting pretty old, every Dem without exception wants to postpone the vote, all reading off the same script.


385 posted on 06/20/2012 11:46:57 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

FWIW, I heard one of the PA representatives (Meehan?) who slipped out to FOX say that they might not get to a vote today with all the speeches people will be making.


386 posted on 06/20/2012 11:49:12 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Norm —thanks for # 305. Had to step out for awhile.

No. 1 son called to see if his dad was OK, or in the hospital, or hyperventilating with this morning news.

I said no, son, I am strangely happy and at peace today, because Zippy stepped into it big time, and he will not win the Exec Privilege argument, and he has now implicated himself into Fast and Furious.

Having lived through Watergate, I know we will be able to hammer the Left on Obamagate, and hoist them on their own petard multiple times.

Dems will now be forced to either support a crook or to uphold the Constitution and the rule of law, just in time for re-election.

It will take awhile to all play out,but it will.

God shed His grace on America this morning, once again. May we be found worthy of it.


387 posted on 06/20/2012 11:52:48 AM PDT by exit82
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To: exit82

Earlier today, President Obama asserted executive privilege, allowing the Justice Depart not to release documents requested in the Operation Fast and Furious inquiry. Unhappy with this response, Rep. Darrell Issa proceeded with the hearing to consider Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress. Following up on the morning’s developments, House Speaker John Boehner accused the White House of a cover up.

Per the statement from Boehner’s spokesman Michael Steel:

Until now, everyone believed that the decisions regarding ‘Fast and Furious’ were confined to the Department of Justice. The White House decision to invoke executive privilege implies that White House officials were either involved in the ‘Fast and Furious’ operation or the cover-up that followed. The Administration has always insisted that wasn’t the case. Were they lying, or are they now bending the law to hide the truth?

Issa called Obama’s decision “untimely” this morning, adding that it wasn’t cause enough to delay the matter.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/house-speaker-john-boehner-accuses-white-house-of-fast-and-furious-cover-up/


388 posted on 06/20/2012 11:54:19 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: jiggyboy; hope; SE Mom; kcvl; RummyChick

Wonder whih rat will be the first to jump ship...WIll they all head for the bow in mass?


389 posted on 06/20/2012 11:55:28 AM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya.".. he's lying now or then?)
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To: hoosiermama

Lankford of OK says (para) you guys want to say it’s all Bush’s fault, and you provide documents from Bush admin but still not what we are seeking.


390 posted on 06/20/2012 12:02:40 PM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO and all your terrorist buddies)
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To: hoosiermama

None on this committee. They have been unyielding in their defense of Holder and Obama.


391 posted on 06/20/2012 12:03:41 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: jiggyboy

2nd time Carol Maloney tried to throw ATF under the bus, 2nd time Issa set her straight.


392 posted on 06/20/2012 12:03:58 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: hoosiermama
I just called Issa office and told him he had millions standing behind him and to stand firm. She said she would give him the message. Give a call and support him. 202-225—3906 and press 4 to talk to a live person.

Thanks--hm--just did and talked to Walter, a very nice young staffer, who was very appreciative of the call.

393 posted on 06/20/2012 12:04:09 PM PDT by exit82
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Yikes! Carolyn Maloney (Rat-NY) looks like she got her head caught in a fan. Also a little like she drank her lunch today, hic!


394 posted on 06/20/2012 12:05:29 PM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO and all your terrorist buddies)
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To: onemiddleamerican

Just thought the same thing....or she was riden hard during lunch......shame on me!


395 posted on 06/20/2012 12:07:43 PM PDT by hoosiermama ( Obama: " born in Kenya.".. he's lying now or then?)
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To: hoosiermama

I don’t think any of the rats on this committee will jump- particularly the wretched woman from New York.

I’m wondering where the whistleblowers are..and what about the idea that more info about the coverup would come out?

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2012/06/sipsey-street-exclusive-more-doj.html


396 posted on 06/20/2012 12:10:51 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Batman11

I don’t think the “Constitutional Scholar” realized the can of worms he opened when he declared executive privelege.


397 posted on 06/20/2012 12:12:53 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: RummyChick

Thanks for the link, RC.

I enjoy the Ulsterman Report—the words of the White House Insider and the Wall Street insider are coming true.

WHI, the Old Man, is not doing well again—I pray he gets to see Obama leave the White House on 1/20/13 or sooner.
He deserves a statue in DC.


398 posted on 06/20/2012 12:15:31 PM PDT by exit82
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To: RummyChick

WHI was supposed to be WSI in the previous post.


399 posted on 06/20/2012 12:16:44 PM PDT by exit82
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To: jersey117
It's somehow fitting that a Rep named Lynch (Rat-MA) wants to add an amendment to the contempt resolution(?) that will show itemized costs of the investigation.

Cost info is not in itself a bad thing to know. However the costs have been largely driven upwards by the Obama/Holder stonewalling for nearly a year and a half.

400 posted on 06/20/2012 12:20:12 PM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO and all your terrorist buddies)
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