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To: Elsie
The gruesome be headings of some 40 Ute corpses in 1850, heads stacked in boxes,

and hung by their long hair from the eves of buildings at Fort Utah,

has long been ignored, “You didn’t see the Indians beheading the Mormons.”

Mormons have a right to their beliefs in this nation, as long as they are not a physical threat to others. They currently are not. 300 years ago, Christians were burning women at the stake in the name of God, should current Christians be held responsible for that?

The debate on your beliefs vs. Mormon beliefs is fine if it was confined to the Religion Forum where it belongs. Its not. Your hatred of Mormons bleeds over into every discussion you are involved in here...

It reflects badly on FR and conservatives in general.

Intolerance and bigotry (Bigot ) are not conservative or Christian values in my book. Our nation was settled by refugees from just that, and our Constitution reflects it. Early Christians didn't spread their beliefs by confrontation, they spread it by living their lives as Christ would, converting others by example and sacrifice.

Just because you wrap yourself in the Bible, doesn't mean you are right. Cotton Mathers was considered a great man of God in his day....

350 posted on 06/15/2012 4:16:18 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun; Elsie; All
Intolerance and bigotry (Bigot ) are not conservative or Christian values in my book

Why then are you intolerant of Elsie's religious beliefs -- including beliefs pertaining to Mormonism?

Is that not also bigotry vs. those who object to Mormonism on multiple grounds (beyond your carefully hermetically sealed compartmentalized "religion")?

So do you have some "license" that allows you to object to other posters religious objections to Mormonism -- but then they can't object to Mormonism on multiple grounds?

Are we to go by what you preach ("Thou shalt be tolerant and thou shalt not be bigoted") ... or by what you practice -- your own stubborn bigotedness & intolerance of what Elsie has said about Mormonism as applied to multiple arenas (political/religious/socio-political/religio-political, etc.)???

353 posted on 06/15/2012 4:37:51 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: A.Hun; Elsie; All
Your hatred of Mormons bleeds over into every discussion you are involved in here... (A. Hun to Elsie)

#1 Hatred is an internal motivation. Where do you get off internally judging others? (Only God sees the heart -- per the Old Testament...see 1 Samuel 16:7...which also says man looks only @ the outward appearance...) Where did you get your "degree" in judging strangers' inward motivations?

#2 Sometimes, I get the feeling that some posters were brought up in hostile homes in which perhaps hatred was an ingredient. They then wind up projecting in their adulthood "disagreements" and "arguing" and "objections raised" as hostile hatred.

Now you're a stranger. I don't pretend to know your history. So I'll just ask you point blank vs. presuming that I know something about your family history: Tell us: What was your family background in terms of "harmony" and any possible in-fighting that may have occurred?

#3 I noticed that instead of saying "hatred of MormonISM" -- you were guilty of a bad overreach by claiming some "hatred of Mormons" themselves.

Well, here's a "parallel" application here: By extension, you have thereby bought into the homosexual agenda & liberal MSM agenda & liberal campus multi-cultural agenda by assuming that opposing the homosexual agenda somehow = opposing the homosexual person.

There's really no way to escape this parallel application/conclusion.

People who claim it's "anti-Mormons" (the people) ... and not "anti-MormonISM" (the ISM or "systematic beliefs, worldviews, theology and doctrine") that is being opposed...
...wind up -- by extension -- joining the homosexual activists, the MSM, and the campus multi-culturalists in claiming ANY and ALL opposition to homosexuality is some slam/diss/bigotry vs. the homosexual himself.

Since this is a conservative site, after all, may I politely suggest that you consider repenting of whatever MSM and multi-cultural worldviews subtly or not-so-subtly taught to you by your campus mentors and/or MSM communicators?

May I suggest you then apply all this in a consistent way?

354 posted on 06/15/2012 4:51:03 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: A.Hun; Elsie

See my tagline.


357 posted on 06/15/2012 5:06:41 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Until the 52K LDS missionaries claiming Christian faith is bogus quit, I will post LDS truth.)
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To: A.Hun
Are Mormons drawn to Free Republic because they are conservative? Or do they post on Free Republic to proselytize and stir up some sh*t?

Perhaps Mormons want to control the language, like calling themselves “Christian” when they most certainly are not.

Are Mormons trying to co-opt Christianity? “Hey, we're the real Christians! We're the ones you've been waiting for!”

People who employ disingenuous, leftist tactics on FR deserve to be banned. That's why so many Mormons have ridden the lightning.

Things might be different here if a true conservative was the Mormon man up for the job.

359 posted on 06/15/2012 5:20:48 PM PDT by Third Person ( Actions reflect priorities.)
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To: A.Hun

300 years ago, Christians were burning women at the stake in the name of God,
_______________________________________________

130 years ago, Mormons were raping underage women in the name of the mormon god...

should current Mormons who agree with polygamy be held responsible for that?


420 posted on 06/15/2012 6:57:51 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: A.Hun
The debate on your beliefs vs. Mormon beliefs is fine if it was confined to the Religion Forum where it belongs.

Your hatred of Mormons bleeds over into every discussion you are involved in here...

Oh shut UP!

The RABID MORMON 'Grig' started this thread and it is NOTHING but 'religion'!

Ask HIM why HE didn't put it in the RELIGION forum!

484 posted on 06/16/2012 4:51:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: A.Hun
The Your hatred of Mormons bleeds over into every discussion you are involved in here...

Oh there you go; ACCUSING me of HATING MORMONs; when the EVIDENCE is CLEAR that I hate what they so FOOLISHLY believe in!


Mormons have a right to their beliefs in this nation...

That's true; and if you have ANY evidence I said they DIDn't; then you WILL produce it; right?

Do I have the 'right' to point out that MORMONism is a HERESY?

485 posted on 06/16/2012 4:54:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: A.Hun
...where it belongs.

No thanks; I'll talk religion ANYWHERE that I please.

I will NOT be shunted off; away from POLITE folks, like a crazy uncle; because it upsets someone elses sensibilities.

486 posted on 06/16/2012 4:57:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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