Posted on 06/12/2012 8:02:01 AM PDT by libstripper
Commerce Secretary John Bryson said Monday night that he is taking an indefinite leave of absence to deal with health problems, after officials said the Cabinet member had a seizure while driving Saturday and was involved in three traffic collisions.
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Studies suggest that about 8 percent of Americans will have a single seizure in their lifetimes. Often the cause is never known.
Those "abnormal electrical discharges" can be caused by a brain tumor, as with Teddy Kennedy and Robert Novak. Hence, I will withhold judgment until we know more.
In some cases, a partial complex seizure can leave a person able to perform simple, familiar activities but not more complex ones. The cause is abnormal electrical discharges occurring in one part of the brain but not others.
Patients may continue driving, just not very well, said Gregory L. Krauss, a neurologist and epilepsy specialist at Johns Hopkins University. They dont have normal awareness. They might be able to turn a bit but not do complex avoidance maneuvers.,p>
Such seizures can last for four or five minutes. Some also become generalized, affecting the entire brain and leading to unconsciousness. Even if that doesnt happen, people are generally confused for up to an hour afterward.
If they tested him and he wasn’t drunk, I would give him the benefit of the doubt. He doesn’t have any history of bad driving, as far as I can tell, and he had no reason to flee the scene of a fender bender.
Do seizures compel one to leave the scene of an accident? Or does getting caught with DUI provide the motive to leave?
The old duck and dodge trick.
The hounds are closing in:
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/06/08/house-republicans-step-up-brightsource-probe/
The accusation is that he left the scene...that is not caused by a seizure.
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Alien Abduction:
That’s how I thing and this is ominously like what happened to Bob Novak. Hence, the benefit of the doubt. If anyone here thinks I’m a stealth Obamunist, just read all my other posts about the Illegal.
Does this mean he plans on retiring with disability pension payments?
I have had hundreds of petit mal seizures and at least one grand mal. The partial seizures can be deceptive to onlookers, and to those unfamiliar with them can assume they are something else.
Maybe he was texting while inhaling Nitrous for all I know.
I’m concerned because this pompous ass LIB was driving an AUDI!!!!!!!! Shouldn’t the fool be driving an American union-made Volt (Dolt)???? How disgusting. How damaging to0 the environment!
I’m concerned because this pompous ass LIB was driving an AUDI!!!!!!!! Shouldn’t the fool be driving an American union-made Volt (Dolt)???? How disgusting. How damaging to the environment!
Good point. But the "seizure" excuse was used so quickly in the Bryson incident that I'm skeptical.
When Novak had his accident, I think it took several days, at least, for news to emerge that doctors had found a brain tumor.
So I tend toward the opinion that Bryson and Obama's handlers are just making up the "seizure" out of thin air.
The Obamaites know the importance of implanting a fake story with the MSM. The know that most of the public will continue to believe the initial lie, even when that story is later disproved.
It isn’t just the cause of the accident, it’s the hit and run factor for multiple collisions.
He evaded questioning.
I have had seizures which seemed like a kind of psychosis. I could do things, and was awake, but my thinking was very disordered.
I was hoping someone with direct experience would post!
When I first heard this story, I was thinking petit mal seizure was in the realm of possibility.
However Bryson apparently has no history of any kind of seizures, petit mal or grand mal.
Sure, it could've been a "first" seizure -- but how would anyone have been able to determine that so quickly? Like, immediately after the accident? Seems to me it would take several days of medical testing to even suggest that a petit mal was a possibility. (And if it had been grand mal, Bryson wouldn't have been in any condition to drive off and hit someone else.)
If it turns out that Bryson did in fact have a history of petit mal seizures, wouldn't that condition have to be noted on his driver's license?
Was Farrah Fawcett in the car?
I'm surprised they haven't (yet) tried to blame Audi, what with the "unintended accelleration" witch-hunt of years past, and all that.
AUDI = Accelerates Under Demonic Influence
Seizures invariably cause memory loss. It is called the postictal state. He may not have even remembered that he was in an accident.
I am going through this with a family member now. It is very painful to see an otherwise competent highly intelligent person being in such a condition. Thank God it passes unlike altzheimers.
Having a family member who has been epileptic for 2 decades, I know something about this.
I am also suspicious.
If they are making this up it is despicable.
Only Jack Daniels seizures
Isn’t he going to be blamed for the National Security leaks?
I’d have a “fit”, too.
anybody that had “seizure” concerns would have stayed in california a few days to get checked out. Instead, the scumbag flew coast to coast to get to DC to destroy the “evidence”, then he announced a “medical leave”.
This guy is the poster boy for the ‘Out of Control’ “O” Presidency!!
Having a family member who has been epileptic for 2 decades, I know something about this.
I am also suspicious.
If they are making this up it is despicable.
We all know that there are incidents that involve seizures coming out of nowhere. Brain tumors, brain infections....epilepsy unknown before.
But you gotta go with the odds and the odds on this are not that he had a seizure. Not that the Obamer admin would ever lie to us.
First, this thing about drugs and alcohol being out of the question is not true.
We cant confirm that it was no drugs or alcohol, Lt. Ariel Duran said by phone. We dont know until all the testing comes back. So at this point, it could be one of those or it could be medical.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47764865#.T9X4eOuWe5I
Second, no less a truth bastion than MSNBC confirms that Bryson DID have a seizure and he is now taking a leave of absence.
The Commerce Department said Bryson was taken to the hospital for examination and remained overnight for observation. He was released and returned to Washington, spokeswoman Jennifer Friedman said. The department says an investigation is ongoing.
My husband got a brain infection and he had seizures of all sorts. Of course I’m no expert but go with the odds.
Seizures are when the body performs movements that were not commanded by the body’s owner. They happen because of some malfunction in the brain.
Bryson’s over 60 years old. If this guy had seizures it sure would have been known before this.
Yeah seizures are apt to pop up, say from a brain tumor, or in my husband’s case, a brain infection, for the first time at SOME poiint.
In the case of a brain infection more than likely there’d been some kind of history of fighting some kind of infection, in husband’s case, pneumonia that migrated to his brain. Very rare but still and so, there is SOME kind of medical history proceeding the brain infection, hence the seizure.
Even though the body goes through wracking motions that the mind did not order, most times a person experiencing a seizure is aware of what’s going on. They just can’t do a thing to stop it. Further, when the seizure is over, the person KNOWS they had a seizure. The whole time their body’s doing things they can’t control, they know what’s going on. Their eyes are rolling around, maybe, their tongue might hang out. They can’t control what their body’s doing but their mind still works.
This does not apply all the time, of course, but going with the odds. Bryson should have known he had a seizure and number one, it shouldn’t be a mystery. Number two, folks rarely jump back into and drive cars after a seizure. Much less have three seizures over a span of an hour, boom, all of a sudden out of nowhere.
I think there’s a cover up going on here but I speculate.
Absolutely nothing about this incident exemplifies normal seizure background or behavior.
And further, lookit, seizures don’t cripple you, assuming it WAS a seizure. There’s no reason for the guy to take a leave of absence though a few days off to follow up on medical stuff is an intelligent action. But note that MSNBC told AP that Bryson’s taking a leave of absence.
My husband worked and functioned fine during his seizure period. Driving a car is a no-no in most states, further giving me doubt cause if this guy had a seizure history he sure wouldn’t be driving around. Varies from state to state I imagine but I consider this another fly in this ointment.
In Delaware you got be seizure free for a year before driving license returned. Further, there are good medications that help seizures, often eliminating them completely. Husband, because of brain infection, was going thru a medical protocol to get his prescription right to stop the seizures. During the adjustment period he would have seizures, but he functioned and did not need to take a leave of absence.
After six months of intensive antibiotic infusion, husband has recovered completely but he still takes anti-seizure meds because there is scar tissue on his brain.
I’ll shut up now but everything about this rather unusual story is odds that Bryson did NOT have a seizure.
Your mileage may vary but I’m willing to wager real money on it.
In general, once the seizure is over, there is no evidence that it occurred. However, with big ones, the seizure so takes over the body that it goes catatonic for up to several hours. Absolute, total exhaustion.
Several of my kids have had seizure issues when they were younger.
THey are tested by hooking up sensors to the head and monitoring brain activity for about 24 hours.
For obvious reasons, liberals are very hard to test for normal brain functions. (sorry, had to do it)
Looks like wha Bob Beckel looked like before he gave up drugs and alcohol.
Bob Novak hit somebody while driving his corvette and he left the scene. It turned out to be a fatal brain tumor that caused the behavior.
Maxine Waters?
Pete Stark?
Tom Hayden?
Angela Davis?
Other suggestions?
Bryson is said to have “an unnamed underlying medical condition.” If it is epilepsy his seizure could be mistakenly diagnosed as substance abuse or mental illness.
“Society's lack of understanding about the many different types of seizures is one of the biggest problems for people with epilepsy. People who witness a non-convulsive seizure often find it difficult to understand that behavior which looks deliberate is not under the person's control. In some cases, this has led to the affected person being arrested or admitted to a psychiatric hospital. To combat these problems, people everywhere need to understand the many different types of seizures and how they may appear.”
http://www.medicinenet.com/seizure/page4.htm#tocg
I have witnessed an epileptic seizure in the VA hospital. The staff thought the patient was drunk or drugged. They called security but before they arrived the symptoms—slurred voice, maniacal laughing, staggering—subsided. Then a nurse discovered the man was epileptic from a medical bracelet he wore.
I'm not a fan of Bryson. He's tied to the Energy Department BrightSource scandal and is part of perhaps the most corrupt administration in more than 100 years.
About five minutes later, Bryson was involved in another crash on a separate stretch of the same commercial road. His Lexus hit a Honda Accord with two occupants, police said. From the article:
Bryson was driving alone when his Lexus ran into two other cars shortly after 5 p.m. Pacific time Saturday
Tanks for sharing your really extensive personal knowledge about this.
Not just hit and run...’FELONY’ hit and run...
I guess his BrightSource dealings can now be written off to ongoing seizures.
bryson gots $1.37 BILLION...has radical connections [weather underground/van jones etc]..
http://www.wnd.com/2011/09/349101/
I’m sure the media will investigate Sec. Bryson with the same vigor they used on Joe the plumber Wurzerbacher, right?
If he’s a billionaire, why is he driving himself? He could give a driver a job. Of course, since he’s a Democrat, it would probably go to an illegal alien.
Yes, in a sense. Seizures compel you to do crazy things. My step brother had a seizure when he was driving and blacked out and crashed his car (thankfully no one else was hurt). He fought the paramedics and cops as they tried to put him on the stretcher to airlift him away from the accident scene (he was in bad shape but actually tried to fight them). He is not the type who would normally do something like that. Seizures affect the brain and make you do crazy things. I, for one, will give this guy the benefit of the doubt and pray for his recovery.
Last July, I had a stroke. I collapsed and just briefly, lost conciousness.
This event was totally out of the blue, with zero accompanying symptoms. Thank God I was home and not driving.
After testing, a myxoma tumor was discovered in my heart. It was removed at Cleveland Clinic and I am fine.
Things can happen unexpectedly at the worst times.
That said, I rarely trust a word out of a Rats mouth .
If you would rather not answer, I won’t be put off at all.
I am interested to know if after your events, you can remember everything that happened.
My take on this guy’s actions on Saturday, is that he was in and out of consciousness, or perhaps even consciously out nearly the whole time.
From your experience, is that possible or am I off base?
Maybe a seizure, and maybe a schmeizure covering too much to drink.
[Thank God I was home and not driving.]
And thank God you survived and are still with us.
Thanks for the kind words. It was the prayers of friends and Freepers that gave me strength.
Well, Hillary had sessions with retard Eleanor Roosevelt, so it figures the Commerce Secretary must have been channeling Ted Kennedy at the time.
Withdrawal from alcohol or benzodiazepines can cause seizures, so he could be a alcoholic who recently decided to get clean on his own.
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