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John Holdren, Obama Science Czar, Advocates 'De-development' of the United States
yahoo.com ^ | Sep 16, 2010 | Mark Whittington

Posted on 06/04/2012 5:43:04 PM PDT by grundle

John Holdren, President Barack Obama's Science Czar, has hit upon a new way to accomplish an old goal of his. Holdren, in the 1970s, was an advocate of what he called the "de-development" of the United States, among other things.

CNS News reports that in a recent video interview, Holdren suggested that the de-development of the United States could be accomplished...

(Excerpt) Read more at voices.yahoo.com ...


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1 posted on 06/04/2012 5:43:10 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Wonder why the last few years are somewhat screwed up?

There are actually two messages here. The first is very
interesting, but the second is absolutely astounding - and explains a lot.

A recent “Investor’s Business Daily” article provided very
interesting statistics from a survey by the United Nations International
Health Organization.

Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years
after diagnosis:

U.S. 65%

England 46%

Canada 42%

Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received
treatment within six months:

U.S. 93%

England 15%

Canada 43%

Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it
within six months:

U.S. 90%

England 15%

Canada 43%

Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within
one month:

U.S. 77%

England 40%

Canada 43%

Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million
people:

U.S. 71

England 14

Canada 18

Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are
in “excellent health”:

U.S. 12%

England 2%

Canada 6%

And now for the last statistic:

National Health Insurance?

U.S. NO

England YES

Canada YES

Check this last set of statistics!!

The percentage of each past president’s cabinet who had worked
in the private business sector prior to their appointment to the cabinet.
You know what the private business sector is a real-life business, not a
government job. Here are the percentages.

T. Roosevelt.................... 38%

Taft................................... 40%

Wilson ........................... 52%

Harding............................ 49%

Coolidge......................... 48%

Hoover............................. 42%

F. Roosevelt................... 50%

Truman............................ 50%

Eisenhower................ .... 57%

Kennedy.......................... 30%

Johnson.......................... 47%

Nixon............................... 53%

Ford................................ 42%

Carter.............................. 32%

Reagan........................... 56%

GH Bush.......................... 51%

Clinton .......................... 39%

GW Bush......................... 55%

Obama..................... 8%

This helps to explain the incompetence of this administration:
only 8% of them have ever worked in private business!

That’s right! Only eight percent-—the least, by far, of the
last 19 presidents! And these people are trying to tell our big
corporations how to run their business?

How can the president of a major nation and society, the one
with the most successful economic system in world history, stand and talk
about business when he’s never worked for one? Or about jobs when he has
never really had one? And when it’s the same for 92% of his senior staff
and closest advisers? They’ve spent most of their time in academia,
government and/or non-profit jobs or as “community organizers.” They should
have been in an employment line.


2 posted on 06/04/2012 5:45:22 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush

The previous reply was received via e-mail...over the transom as it were.


3 posted on 06/04/2012 5:47:32 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: grundle
Holdren suggested that the de-development of the United States could be accomplished

SCREW THESE PEOPLE and the horse (Obama) they rode in on!

4 posted on 06/04/2012 5:48:27 PM PDT by grobdriver
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To: grundle

Making the US a resort. For the most obscene in the world.


5 posted on 06/04/2012 5:48:47 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (nobody gives me warheads anyway))
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To: grundle
John Holdren…

…..who we should not forget…..is a A PRO EUGENICS, CERTIFIABLE, “NAZI-LIKE” Environmental NUTJOB WHO WAS PERSONALLY RECRUITED AND APPOINTED AS “SCIENCE CZAR” BY OBAMA…

…..and who has publicly advocated the following…..

• Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;

• The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food;

• Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;

• People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.

• A transnational "Planetary Regime" should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans' lives – using an armed international police force.

Ah, but nuttin’ to see here, right? No reflection on Obama, right? Just move along….or better yet, stay home on Nov 6 as we ALL know Romney is 10 times worst than Dear Leader, right?

Yeah right!

6 posted on 06/04/2012 5:48:55 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: grundle

Video has been pulled.. Did Yahoo get a call from the White Hut? Sssshhhh.. Don’t let the cat out of the bag! That Holdren is a treasonous, traitorous, evil THING. Not unlike most of 0bama’s cabinet.


7 posted on 06/04/2012 5:50:06 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: grundle

Maurice Strong suggested eliminating 3 quarters of the people on the north American continent and forcing the rest of us to live in a couple of tightly controlled mega cities on the plains.


8 posted on 06/04/2012 5:51:22 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: gorush
This helps to explain the incompetence of this administration

It is not incompetence. The destruction is on purpose. I can't see any other explanation.
9 posted on 06/04/2012 5:56:58 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: grundle

Can I haz CW2now?


10 posted on 06/04/2012 5:57:46 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Another day. Another small provocation. Another step closer.)
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To: gorush
This helps to explain the incompetence of this administration:

They are not incompetent; they are very close to achieving their goals.

11 posted on 06/04/2012 5:57:56 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
They are not incompetent; they are very close to achieving their goals.

Yep, tightening the noose with every passing day and the progs on both sides of the aisle cinch it up a little tighter every day.
12 posted on 06/04/2012 6:00:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: DuncanWaring

Just why isn’t this mutant holdren fool either deported, shunned or in federal prison? Yet another one of nobama’s insane unconstitutional czars. Everything nobama does is intentional. nobama hates you and your family.


13 posted on 06/04/2012 6:03:52 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: RedMDer

58 seconds ;-P


14 posted on 06/04/2012 6:05:50 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

GMTA ^5


15 posted on 06/04/2012 6:10:01 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: grundle
He needs to team up with this guy


16 posted on 06/04/2012 6:11:12 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Hardraade

Well, I don’t think that you could call their plan for the US, a resort.

There plan is to implement there Gateway projects, the multi-modal transportation corridors, connecting terminals, ports and free trade zones around the world, moving people and cargo through rural areas, while limiting human incursion into the rural areas of the US.

The idea is to ship out food and raw products and natural resources, to developing countries, who will do the manufacturing, reversing the economics of the world. I suspect that is what Holdren meant by “free market”.

The Gateway coal terminal that the Obama administration and the Democrats are pushing for in WA State is part of this Gateway system.


17 posted on 06/04/2012 6:11:28 PM PDT by Eva
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To: zot; SeraphimApprentice; Interesting Times

Another source of Obama’s desire to destroy “whoops” de-evolve the United States. Read the Yahoo article


18 posted on 06/04/2012 6:14:31 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Drill Thrawl

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


19 posted on 06/04/2012 6:14:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: grundle

The plan is working pretty well. Just tour any midwestern city. Empty houses and commercial buildings abound, and plenty of empty lots where other vacant buildings have been torn down.

I think Motown has already de-developed > 40% of the city.

I’m sure Baraq’s advertising will take credit for it.


20 posted on 06/04/2012 6:19:31 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: hal ogen
Yet another one of nobama’s insane unconstitutional czars.

Holdren is not a "czar".

He is the head of the Office of Science and Technology Policy.

This is an important position that long predates Obama. Holdren was approved for this position by the Senate.

Holdren is an evil leftist but his position is not one of those B.S. "czar" dealios.

21 posted on 06/04/2012 6:24:03 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: grundle
From the original article:

Americans and others living in the developed world would be expected to give up a lot of their prosperous lifestyle so that the wealth that makes it possible could be diverted to the Third World.

Somehow, he thinks we should live a third-world lifestyle to conserve wealth to divert to the actual Third World, while at the same time maintaining First World levels of productivity to generate that excess wealth.

22 posted on 06/04/2012 6:27:20 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: nascarnation

There are a lot of rural area returning to wilderness (and state ownership). The state just bought some 2300 acres of farmland near me. They farmer couldn’t afford the ever encroaching regulations regarding water among other things so he sold it all off.

I took a ride south of my old hometown a while back and was amazed at the number of empty farms.


23 posted on 06/04/2012 6:29:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: DuncanWaring
Somehow, he thinks we should live a third-world lifestyle to conserve wealth to divert to the actual Third World, while at the same time maintaining First World levels of productivity to generate that excess wealth.

Fiefdoms... Somehow, they've got us divided into fiefdoms - thus the push toward "sustainability".

24 posted on 06/04/2012 6:37:46 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$ or PETA.)
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To: RedMDer
Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?

---Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environmental Program - Opening speech, Rio Earth Summit, 1992
25 posted on 06/04/2012 6:40:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
---Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environmental Program - Opening speech, Rio Earth Summit, 1992

Maurice Strong, Peter Singer.... It's a long list.

26 posted on 06/04/2012 6:42:28 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$ or PETA.)
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To: grundle

The trump ace of the whole strategy was supposed to be global warming; Romney better be willing to look long and hard at his endorsement of that concept if Holdren’s ideas are to be pitched into the dung heap of history where they belong.


27 posted on 06/04/2012 6:44:28 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: grundle


28 posted on 06/04/2012 6:51:19 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: grundle

Agenda 21. Treason.


29 posted on 06/04/2012 7:00:58 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: GreyFriar

They fully intend to destroy the most successful nation on earth, by turning in into something like Communist Cuba.


30 posted on 06/04/2012 7:18:13 PM PDT by zot
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To: grundle

ping


31 posted on 06/04/2012 7:22:31 PM PDT by VTenigma
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To: grundle

Slavery is Freedom.


32 posted on 06/04/2012 7:24:19 PM PDT by DManA
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/white-house-science-czar-says-he-would-use-free-market-de-develop-united-states

Would this be the video? (page down a bit)


33 posted on 06/04/2012 7:25:07 PM PDT by pigsmith
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To: grundle

The de-development of Detroit was a prototype.


34 posted on 06/04/2012 7:25:50 PM PDT by DManA
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To: pigsmith

They use the free market because some folks care more about money than right and wrong. Look at Richard Lugar, first republican to sell out to the Chicago Climate exchange as the owner of a “carbon sequestration” project. Money for doing nothing more than letting trees grow and all he had to do was screw we the people.

On the other hand, the government is right there to entice even us little people with tax breaks. Locally we have the “Raisin Valley Land Trust” they offer a non development contract to people along the river and the government backs them up with a tax break. The only problem is that it renders the land forever useless because the contract stands even after a sale. There ain’t a tax break in the world worth selling my rights or my soul.


35 posted on 06/04/2012 7:53:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: DManA

And you can bet that the elites will stalk, bribe, lure and buy the women they prefer.

Your daughter may have to decide on ‘Survive or Starve’.


36 posted on 06/04/2012 8:22:54 PM PDT by Surrounded_too
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To: grundle

Agenda 21 by another name.


37 posted on 06/04/2012 8:33:39 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

“Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not”

“Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise”

“A transnational “Planetary Regime” should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans’ lives — using an armed international police force.”

I wonder if Holdren is bucking for a job as Obama’s speech writer.


38 posted on 06/04/2012 9:07:55 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: grundle
From Wikipedia:

Overpopulation was an early concern and interest. In a 1969 article, Holdren... argued, "if the population control measures are not initiated immediately, and effectively, all the technology man can bring to bear will not fend off the misery to come. In 1973, Holdren encouraged a decline in fertility to well below replacement in the United States, because "210 million now is too many and 280 million in 2040 is likely to be much too many."[22]

We are over 300 million already, 30 years sooner than he expected, and we do not have any resource shortages... and he's a White House advisor on science. Amazing.

39 posted on 06/05/2012 9:32:36 AM PDT by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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