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Sheriff Joe's posse: 'Hawaii duped Arizona'
World Net Daily ^ | 5/25/2012 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 05/25/2012 6:39:34 PM PDT by Nasher

“Hawaii duped Arizona” in its response to Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett’s request to verify Barack Obama’s eligibility for the 2012 election, charges the lead investigator of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse.

“We have developed incontrovertible proof that the verification provided by the Hawaii Department of Health to Arizona’s secretary of state on May 22 really doesn’t verify anything of significance,” said Mike Zullo, who is in Hawaii to follow up on his team’s initial findings concerning Obama’s birth record.

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To: rcrngroup

“You’re exactly right. Bennett started off strong, but then very quickly capitulated and backpedaled when he declared that “No, he doesn’t need the actual birth certificate, just “verification” that it does exist”. “

Just like that AH judge in Georgia. It sure looks like the fix is in, or there are personal threats.


51 posted on 05/25/2012 8:00:04 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Nasher

This is an interesting clip:

“Bury Barack in Africa? Maraniss points out that Obama’s father and grandfather are members of the Luo clan, a “fiercely patriarchal” tribe in Kenya, who believe that maternal lineage doesn’t matter. So, any child born to a Luo man, “will always be a Luo and nothing but a Luo, and when his days are done they expect that he will be put to rest in the Luo burial plot in Nyang’oma Kogelo with his Luo relatives.” Let’s hope they’re not holding their breath.”

http://www.washingtonian.com/bookreviews/autobiographymemoir/book-review-barack-obama-the-story-by-david-maraniss.php


52 posted on 05/25/2012 8:06:16 PM PDT by ironman
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To: Red Steel
"Corsi sounded supremely confident today that they got the proof on Obama."

Yeah well ... he'd better hurry up ... the bastard's about to sign a half dozen treaty's that will destroy American sovereignty.

53 posted on 05/25/2012 8:06:36 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Nasher

Congress will check out the credentials for McCan, Romney, and Santorum, but pass on Obama in spite of an abudance evidence he can’t prove he’s a US citizen.


54 posted on 05/25/2012 8:13:27 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: Nasher
Don't the states elect the POTUS by their electoral college reflected by the popular vote?

In the light of all this (that really only confirms what seemed obvious a few years ago), can't a party with standing in each state take what evidence they have to their own state courts? Even if the burden of proof is on the party charging Obama is foreign-born, if a preponderance of evidence were presented that he is foreign born and no substantial evidence to the contrary, a state court could rule that Obama is not constitutionally eligible to be POTUS. The state could then remove his name form ballots and refuse to count Obama in the voting: he would be considered constitutionally ineligible.

Is Arizona or any other state going down that road?

55 posted on 05/25/2012 8:15:52 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Red Steel
“We have developed incontrovertible proof .... "

An honest statement ... they developed ... invented ... proof

See how easy that was?

Now, don't get all wee wee'd up, eat your peas and don't make trouble for about ... ohhh ... 5 months

56 posted on 05/25/2012 8:16:37 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf

According to Corsi, they will present the evidence and proof to the public after the Posse wrap up their Hawaiian investigation and jet back to Arizona to brief Sheriff Arpaio. Probably the 2nd week of June.


57 posted on 05/25/2012 8:20:31 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: x1stcav

“Bennett played the chump. His career is finished. Does he do little boys? What did they have on him?”
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I don’t know if Bennett does little boys but he sure as hell has shown that he is a major league Dummkopf. He’s either easily duped or a scared little boy himself, unworthy of both his current office and ANY future office to which he may aspire. Some of us have long memories.


58 posted on 05/25/2012 8:25:05 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Nasher
"To the right of the registrar’s stamp on the letter appear the initials “gk,” suggesting that Hawaii Department of Health Registrar Alvin Onaka did not apply the registrar’s stamp himself."

“I suspect these defects are not accidental,” Zullo said. “My suspicion is that top officials in the Hawaii DOH and the Hawaii Attorney General’s office created a defective document that could be disclaimed rather that take the time to produce a thoroughly proofread and officially certified legally binding state document.”

So who is "gk?"

59 posted on 05/25/2012 8:31:34 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: fish hawk
people are wasting their time dealing with Hawaii. He was not born there and they have NO records. They don’t even have to hide them because they do not exist. This is the last time I’m going to tell you.

You could be right. You could be wrong. But the truth is you really have no clue where he was born ... and neither do we. The man's a mystery. But there is no need to act like you somehow possess some grand knowledge in this space. No one knows except his family and they are covering up for him or being told to shut up.

60 posted on 05/25/2012 8:38:02 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Fantasywriter
I have completely revamped my thinking on this Obama Identity Situation
... The OIS.
I was MIA because I was in my secret BatLab running the DNA samples that have absolutely convinced me ... again ... that our POTUS Is actually ...

The Lost Dauphin dela Belle France

As our rightful Sovereign King, it does not matter that the HIDOH sent over an abstract. He rules by Divine Right.

Now in the matter of an Abstract vs The Real Thing:
One a First Edition of "War and Peace."
The Abstract is the Cliff Notes version. Someone decides this is all you really need to know.

The statements released by the HIDOH explaining all this are the finest examples, mini-masterpieces actually, of legal misdirection, obfuscation, and all-around CYA that have been been seen in a long time. Nowhere do they claim to have given the WH a Certified Copy" of a "Document on File." Because ... gasp ... they didn't.
Why? Because, FW, there isn't any "document on file."
All they gave Team OBama was a bunch of digital files. Team Obama cut and pasted these bits and pieces up into something that looked kinda like a BC and sent it out to their media pals as a PDF. The rest is history until Sheriff Joe stuck his nose in and backed up my learned opinion (and that of several hundred other freepers).

Now, this foolish young fellow Bennett, out there in AZ got even less from the HIDOH. They said "...matches info in our files. OK?" It's OK with him. He doesn't wish to fool around with the King.

61 posted on 05/25/2012 8:38:13 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: fish hawk

then every person involved in propagating the fraud needs to be charged with conspiracy to commit fraud and enjoy some 4x8 govt housing

or enjoy the camping in the great outdoors.. of maricopa county


62 posted on 05/25/2012 8:46:22 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: visualops

I know Ken Bennett. he is a very nice, mild mannered man. He wants to be Governor. That’s all I am going to say.


63 posted on 05/25/2012 8:46:28 PM PDT by Hildy ("When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - SocratesHill not text while dri)
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To: Nasher

Sounds like Arizona’s Secretary of State is complicit in some leftist democrat skullduggery...


64 posted on 05/25/2012 8:51:46 PM PDT by redhead (Libs can't win without cheating--Conservatives don't have to cheat to win)
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To: Nasher

Probably not duped by HI but talked to by The Evil Won’s handlers.


65 posted on 05/25/2012 8:59:25 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Nasher

We need J.Edger Hoover.


66 posted on 05/25/2012 9:00:19 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: WellyP

Moony. Gone but not forgotten, eh?


67 posted on 05/25/2012 9:00:41 PM PDT by Eastbound (3-7-77)
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To: Fantasywriter
....the online monstrosity Obama released was an abstract

Minor forensic point:
The HIDOH sent over bits and pieces
abstracted by them from "data on file."
What Team Obama created is not the "abstract." More like a compilation ... digital découpage ... a cut and paste job?
It's a pretty darn impressive digital creation. On a dark and stormy night, a MSM reporter could even take it for some sort of Birth Certificate.

Of course, then a friendly sort can print it out and adjust the color and all. Impressive as this is, it simply is not a Certified Copy of a Document on File." In fact, it's not even a "document." It is a fake.

This whole thing is crazy. If Obama were an automobile, no DMV in the land would register him with this sort of documentation.

68 posted on 05/25/2012 9:04:22 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Nasher

Question!

Since Zer0 closed all files related to him by Executive Order as soon as he became POTUS, not by congressional law,
can’t a new President rescind the previous EO gag order, so that the colleges, HI, etc. become compelled to disclose Zer0 records without fear of retribution??

Is there anyone in the Pubbie tent that has the balls to do that???


69 posted on 05/25/2012 9:13:27 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: fish hawk

I heard that they (Hawaii) doesnt have His Mothers record of ever being in the Hospital to give birth to Obama...

This is all a scam...Obama was never Born In America...
He is not a Natural Born Citizen.

He was never elligble to be president...He isnt now.

He never will be.

How Long are we going to stand for this Lie and this Liar?


70 posted on 05/25/2012 9:15:44 PM PDT by LtKerst
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To: ironman

Hes a LUO Man....
from the Luo Clan....

but Hes a “Big” Man...so call him SIR

A Luo-Sir! (looser)


71 posted on 05/25/2012 9:19:10 PM PDT by LtKerst
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To: Norm Lenhart
So we all can just pound salt. Great huh?

That's about it.
Neither the RATS nor the GOP want the truth about Zer0 to come out and as to the Constitution and the people of this nation...."Tough $#![...We run the show...Do what you are told!"

72 posted on 05/25/2012 9:32:07 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Nasher
Again, could someone please explain why Hawaii's Onaka left off Obama's crucial birth date of Aug. 4, 1961?

Was the omission simply a clerical error, or did Onaka omit Obama's birth date on purpose?

Did Bennett accidentally leave Obama's birth date off of his list, or did he leave it off on purpose?

How about this theory: The "verification" of Obama's birth date---Aug. 4, 1961--- was the sticking point that Bennett and Hawaii officials could not agree on for all those weeks, and that is why Bennett had to reword his request and why Obama's birth date is conspicuously missing from Onaka's verification form. That is, Hawaii officials did not want to include Obama's birth date on its "verification" form, while Bennett wanted it included.

To me, without verification of Obama's birth date, Hawaii's "verification" form is incomplete, almost worthless.

Can Bennett correct his "mistake" by contacting Hawaii again and seeking a "verification" from Onaka of Obama's birth date of Aug. 4, 1961?

73 posted on 05/25/2012 9:39:09 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: Roccus

“Neither the RATS nor the GOP want the truth about Zer0 to come out”

The “problem” with the truth is that it’s like a freight train barreling down the tracks. I don’t care how many people want to try and stop it. They will only end up smooshed by it.

It’s one thing to play “chicken” with a train when it’s a whole lot further down the tracks but...only fools would attempt to stop it at this point.

Laws of physics respect no persons.


74 posted on 05/25/2012 9:39:49 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: sten
then every person involved in propagating the fraud needs to be charged with conspiracy to commit fraud and enjoy some 4x8 govt housing

I hope that would include the entire 110th Congress.

75 posted on 05/25/2012 9:41:38 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Roccus; sten

That shoulod read 111th Congress

(sorry if this is a dupe, FR is kinda FRunky tonight)


76 posted on 05/25/2012 9:54:03 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Smokeyblue

Politicians can bury ANYTHING, especially with the help of the media.

BTW, who DID hire Craig Livingstone?


77 posted on 05/25/2012 9:57:17 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Nasher

Bennett seemed awfully willing to be duped on behalf of the state of Arizona.


78 posted on 05/25/2012 9:57:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
"Do you think el fabuloso Rushbo, Masterful Purveyor of Gold Bars and Sleep Numba Beds to the "conservative" faithful, will find it in his formerly nicotine-stained heart to mention this one .... gasp ... on the air?

How about Hairdo Hannity? Bull Schnitt? Hugh Hewitt ...(nah forget that bow-tied bum kisser)...Glenn Beck ....anyone? "

Personally.....I think your cocky ass should STFU.

79 posted on 05/25/2012 9:59:37 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Nasher
More info here... obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com
80 posted on 05/25/2012 10:01:29 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Red Steel
I just wish our nominee would say something like...

"When I move into the White House the new attorney general will initiate a thorough and complete investigation in order to clarify to the American people that Barack Obama was indeed eligible and was the legitimate President of these United States. However, if by some chance the accusations turn out to be correct, there is a promise that anybody in Congress whether they be republican or democrat will be legally held accountable and justice will be served for any wrong doing and illegal activity. Let that be a warning to the leaders of Congress who have taken the oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America."

81 posted on 05/25/2012 10:04:42 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: ScottfromNJ
“He was not born there and they have NO records.”

No records, no name on ballot then.


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"No ticket."
82 posted on 05/25/2012 10:05:04 PM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: RightOnline; Kenny Bunk

Kenny Bunk is one of the best members of FR.

Why are you so rude?


83 posted on 05/25/2012 10:10:15 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Quickgun
Maybe not. This could be a well thought out trap.Make them (Hawaii officials) lie, then someone has their name stuck to a lie. Bennett would have to display distance from Sheriff Joe until the hammer falls. They COULD be working together. (just a theory,of course)

I think that is a a good theory.

84 posted on 05/25/2012 10:15:54 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Red Steel

“Corsi sounded supremely confident...”


On the news or on the radio? I want to see him speak on this subject and hear it in his voice. I have a lot of respect for Corsi, especially since he even promotes Ray Comfort and the Living Waters Ministries. Good people.


85 posted on 05/25/2012 10:45:46 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: Red Steel

I don’t even watch Fox News anymore ever since I saw Shepard Smith devolve into mocking Herman Cain for the duration of an entire segment. He’s done it even worse to Newt, and I hate to think what else he has done. Good riddance to Fox.

Has Corsi gotten any interviews at all on this through Fox that any of you know of?


86 posted on 05/25/2012 10:48:04 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: Kenny Bunk
Great posts, KB, both this one and 61. They were riveting. I see what you're saying and totally agree. It's the only explanation that accts for all the weird anomalies in the digital doc [and for HI’s absurdly tweaky attitude when it comes to even the simplest question re: Obama’s documentation]. Thanks for putting it in such excellent form. I may have to bookmark those replies and keep them on file. I have never been able to explain these things as well as you do, and I never will.

On a different subject. I think Obama is falling apart. Despite all the ego pumping/shielding/manipulating Jarrett does, I think Obama has gotten wind of his sinking popularity. This is not something a Malignant Narcissist of his type handles well. Add to that the fabric of his nativity lies coming unraveled, and you have one nerved out guy. Add to THAT the record length of time it's been since he took a major vacation. He's coming unglued—and it will only get worse from here.

Should be an interesting summer and fall. I've been saying extra prayers for Obama. He's going to need them.

87 posted on 05/25/2012 10:49:51 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: RightOnline; Kenny Bunk

Personally.....I agree with Kenny Bunk. The capitulation of the conservative media on this topic turns my stomach.


88 posted on 05/25/2012 10:52:21 PM PDT by Jess79
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To: Fantasywriter
>"Obama’s skin color shields him"

It's more than that. It's his Saudi Oil money, and ties to mob/mafia/cartels/Soros.

Barry the bastard will bump you quicker than Canckels!

89 posted on 05/25/2012 10:53:53 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Nasher

I knew nothing of Ken Bennett before reading these posts.

I thought that he sure sounds like a go-along to get-along spineless RINO wimp who - since he is allied with Mittens - is probably LDS. I did a search and sure enough, he is.

For a Church that professes so many conservative values it certainly produces some whack-job politicians - just like the Roman Catholic church I was raised in!


90 posted on 05/25/2012 10:56:57 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: CommieCutter

The whole Mad Max thing is a Mormon thing, hence the reason why he talks about them. The Mormons think they’ll be taking over once the economy finally collapses and the apocalypse kicks in.


91 posted on 05/25/2012 10:59:15 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: plain talk

You may not have a clue but we do. He himself said he was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia. I’d say, that was a bit of a clue. (read his books friend) Also he grandmother in Kenya said he was born there. (another small clue) Also there is a you tube video of Michelle saying to a large crown that she and her husband enjoyed there trip back to his “birth country, Kenya”. another small clue. How many clues do you need to get a point???


92 posted on 05/26/2012 12:12:03 AM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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To: fish hawk

When the understanding about “born in Kenya” reaches saturation point in the (voting) public’s consciousness (read various non-conservative blogs and the MSM to start seeing this trend), watch the “so what if he was? his mother was American, that’s enough to make him ‘natural-born’ and POTUS-eligible” talking point get trotted out.

The dummied-up HI “birth certificate” is getting dog-eared and developing patches of wear such that you can see daylight through it. It will soon be discarded. People with a moderate amount of perception will start to understand what is being defined here by negative space — by what is persistently NOT being said by HI authorities.


93 posted on 05/26/2012 12:34:20 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: rcrngroup
The real birth certificate is in Kenya (or at least it used to be), although I very much believe that this has long since been destroyed by Kenyan marxist officials sympathetic to bahruk huzzein 0dumb0!

No way; if Kenya had something like that the smart thing to do would be to make multiple certified copies and sit on them; why throw away a perfectly good trump card that would make the President of the US dance like a puppet?

94 posted on 05/26/2012 1:07:58 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: john mirse
Was the omission simply a clerical error, or did Onaka omit Obama's birth date on purpose?

Did Bennett accidentally leave Obama's birth date off of his list, or did he leave it off on purpose?

I posed those very questions to Bennett and got these answers :

Did you originally ask for verification of the Date of birth ?

Yes

If so, why was that excluded from the verification ? Was it at the suggestion of the Hawaii Attorney General or Director of Health ?

2. a. I don’t know why it was excluded. I assume it was an error by whoever typed the verification.

b. No.

Finally, how can you accept verification as true when the second most important piece of information used to verify a birth ( the name being the most ) is missing from the verification ?

4. All of the other data points on the verification, including the dates, clearly show that they are verifying the birth certificate posted on their website and referenced in the Directors’ letters.

I responded with a follow up letter ( have not received an answer yet ) with these two questions :

Question 2 . If there was an error in the typing of the verification, then the verification IS NOT VALID.

Question 4: You did not answer the question. The question was, how can you accept verification as true when the key piece of information you need to verify a birth document - THE DATE OF BIRTH - is missing ? It doesn't matter if all the other fields match. The key field, THE DATE OF BIRTH is missing. That missing field invalidates any "verification" of the certificate presented on their website, which incidentally they did NOT verify as a true and accurate copy.

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Now considering his answer to question 2 in my first letter, he is either spouting complete bull or is completely incompetent.

95 posted on 05/26/2012 1:42:06 AM PDT by TheCipher
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To: rcrngroup
Ken Bennett does look like Alfalfa. He's like an 8 yr old boy-man, trying desperately to unhook himself from the phony birth certificate controversy. He now knows it doesn't exist, and that 0dumb0 & Hawaii officials lied about it. The most revealing comment by Zullo is regarding his meeting with Ken Bennett, when Zullo saw the desperation exhibited by Ken Bennett, and that Bennett was desperate to do whatever the Hawaiian officials wanted, in order to get some document, no matter how ridiculous & fabricated.

*******

Is it true that Bennett is planning to run for Arizona governor in a few years?

Just wondering: If Arizona Secretary of State Bennett CANNOT stand up to the way the state of Hawaii has been bullying and insulting him these past few weeks, how in the world will a Gov. Bennett be able to stand up to the mighty bullying of the federal justice department, when the justice department and other federal agencies start putting tremendous pressure on Gov. Bennett to do what they want, especially if President Obama is re-elected?

96 posted on 05/26/2012 2:03:56 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: Jess79; RightOnline; little jeremiah; Fantasywriter
The capitulation of the conservative media on this topic turns my stomach.

Do you think we are asking too much of the "Right Wing Radio Hosts" to ask the questions ... to at the very least acknowledge the existence of these issues:
Natural Born Citizenship,
The BC,
The Draft Records,
The Social Security Card,
The Passport,
The Surrender of the Bar Membership,
The Very Existence of Sheriff Arpaio's Posse,etc?
What if a "Conservative Talk Radio Host" is diametrically opposed to one's POV ... or completely disagrees with Arpaio's findings? Well, OK then, it's still news; the issue is certainly still a valid topic for discussion. Why the blackout?

Perhaps equally important in the election year: we ALL already know damn well how bad Obama is. How about asking candidates to tell us the Program and the Plan to rebuild from the wreckage he has caused? Negative focus on Obama is not going to get us the positive, goal-oriented, constitutional Leadership the country needs. While the "Right wing Talkers preach to the choir," perhaps they are missing a golden opportunity to educate their audience.... or get a bigger one.

The producers of Talk Radio .... i.e., the people who prepare these shows ... read this site regularly. Let's NOT Shut The Freepers Up. Let's start asking them to ask the right questions. It might even help them sell more gold bars, survival rations, and Sleep Numba Beds.

97 posted on 05/26/2012 2:27:26 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: man_in_tx

Ping


98 posted on 05/26/2012 2:52:39 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: little jeremiah

One of the ‘best’, eh.....well, I’ve been on this forum for 14 years and never heard of ‘im.

I get really sick and tired of keyboard cowboys insulting the likes of Rush, Hannity, Beck, etc. because they haven’t hoisted one flag or another. Do I wish they’d take this issue on? Yes, and I’ve written them accordingly. Do I insult them on FR after the many years they’ve put in, fighting the fight on a daily basis?

What has this clown done to further the cause of freedom and conservatism?

So tell me who’s ‘rude’ here......


99 posted on 05/26/2012 2:54:08 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

I looked at the signature yesterday on the doc they sent AZ and it had initials after it indicating someone else signed for Alvin.


100 posted on 05/26/2012 5:17:37 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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