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Exclusive: The VettingóDid Obama Have Lower SAT Scores Than George W. Bush?
Breitbart ^ | 05/22/2012 | Charles C. Johnson

Posted on 05/22/2012 10:25:12 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Breitbart News has learned that the transfer class that entered Columbia College in the fall of 1981 with Obama was one of the worst in recent memory, according to Columbia officials at the time.

A Nov. 18, 1981 article in the Columbia Spectator, “Tight Housing Discourages Transfer Applications to CC,” written by student Jeremy Feldman and quoting admissions officials, reported: “On paper at least, the quality of the students accepted [as transfers] has declined along with the number of applicants, the officials say.”

Feldman, quoting Robert Boatti, Assistant Dean of Admissions, as well as the late college Dean Arnold Collery, continued:

Boatti also attributed the drop in transfer application to the College’s policy of requiring transfer students to take courses in its core curriculum and to the limited availability of financial aid for them.

He added a “majority” of the transfers come here from college in the New York area. Many come from community colleges, rather than the nation’s top schools.

“Even the unhappiest people don’t transfer from Harvard,” Boatti said.

In grades and other indicators of academic performance, the crop of transfer applicants “doesn’t stand out the way they did before,” [Dean Arnold] Collery said.

Boatti confirmed Collery’s observations. …

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: columbia; columbiacollege; naturalborncitizen; obamasatscore
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1 posted on 05/22/2012 10:25:17 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Did he EVER EVEN take the “SAT”?!


2 posted on 05/22/2012 10:26:18 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Olog-hai
Did Obama Have Lower SAT Scores Than George W. Bush?

I would literally bet my life savings on it...

3 posted on 05/22/2012 10:30:45 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Olog-hai

The SAT is racist; just look at the Asian scores.


4 posted on 05/22/2012 10:30:45 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Olog-hai

Hmmm....I’d have though based on his past as we know it, all any ‘application’ he’d have needed just say FOREIGN/BLACK. I doubt he ever took an SAT.


5 posted on 05/22/2012 10:31:47 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Olog-hai

Just a question here — last week-end’s Breitbart article confirmed that O graduated from Colombia University — is there a Colombia University AND a Colombia College or one and the same?


6 posted on 05/22/2012 10:36:22 AM PDT by bunster
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To: Olog-hai

Knowing Brietbart.com, I predict that they will wait until all the media and libs deny and defend The One, claiming Obama is a genius and has perfect SATs. Then Brietbart will drop the SAT score dox.


7 posted on 05/22/2012 10:37:41 AM PDT by sportutegrl (At least that's how I hope it will go down.)
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To: Olog-hai

The implied assumption that GWB is a dullard isn’t warranted. I don’t care about O’s SAT score. I can see what he is doing to this country and that is enough.


8 posted on 05/22/2012 10:39:04 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: US Navy Vet
Did he have to take TOEFL (since he was probably claiming foreign student status)?

BTW, the article said that student aid was "tight" at the time. If OweBama didn't get foreign aide for his studies, how did OweBama pay for his studies?

Me thinks Breitbart has more facts than what they're showing...

9 posted on 05/22/2012 10:39:33 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Ops. Not student aid, but housing was “tight.” I would like to know how he paid for Columbia, though...


10 posted on 05/22/2012 10:42:10 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Drip...Drip...Drip!


11 posted on 05/22/2012 10:42:40 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Olog-hai

Do they allow teleprompters while taking the SAT?


12 posted on 05/22/2012 10:45:18 AM PDT by pallis
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To: bunster

Colombia University is the ivy. It’s in Manhattan. The Preezy went there.


13 posted on 05/22/2012 10:45:54 AM PDT by Havisham
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To: Sicon

I would bet my LIFE on it.

If there was anything in the foreign exchange student’s past that was admirable, it would have been waved around by his adoring fans AND a special press conference would have been held to present the record as proof of Obama’s brilliance. Oh, and it would appear as the background on the White House website.

Instead, every record that exists is sealed by executive order and the libs don’t give a crap. Amazing how those rose-colored glasses change their views.


14 posted on 05/22/2012 10:48:21 AM PDT by SusaninOhio
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To: sportutegrl

Where are the legal challenges to get The One’s transcripts unsealed? Why isn’t he having to fight back one legal challenge after another?

Somehow he was able to get two of his challenger’s divorce records pried open. How did that happen? Are divorce records public but school transcripts not?

One thing you know for sure when electing a republican to office. You will know that he has been thoroughly disemboweled and vetted by the media. With a democrat it will always be pot luck.


15 posted on 05/22/2012 10:48:53 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: Olog-hai

Still two sections on the test back then. I am guessing a 510 on the Verbal portion and a 420 on the Math.


16 posted on 05/22/2012 10:49:40 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: SusaninOhio

“every record that exists is sealed by executive order”

He will only have that executive order power for the next 6 months. What then? Romney better not keep those records sealed in the name of some presidential protocol.


17 posted on 05/22/2012 10:51:28 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: Olog-hai
Now, Breitbart News has established that Obama's grades and Scholastic Aptitude Test (SAT) scores may have been even lower than those of his supposedly less capable predecessor, George W. Bush. [emphasis mine]
This is an excerpt. I'm disappointed with Breitbart News. Breitbart News has established nothing except that it knows what we want to hear. This is bad for credibility.
18 posted on 05/22/2012 10:52:44 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Must be the racist bias in the SATs. ;’) Thanks Olog-hai.


19 posted on 05/22/2012 10:53:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
Yeah, 930 seems about right for him. Low to middling.

Not good enough for a half-white boy from Hawaii to gain admittance to Columbia, but on the stellar end for an exchange student from Kenya.

20 posted on 05/22/2012 10:55:47 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Olog-hai
Hafrican SAT scores are worth 1.8 times white and white-hispanic scores, so its probably a wash.

Does anyone know what a 1/32 Cherokee score is worth?

21 posted on 05/22/2012 10:56:29 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Olog-hai; US Navy Vet

Obama claims to have graduated Summa Cum Laude but can’t prove he went to class. He admits his last two years of high school were a daze because he was stoned and drunk, yet he was admitted to college, apparently without taking SATs.


22 posted on 05/22/2012 10:56:57 AM PDT by Baynative (REMEMBER: Without America there is no free world!)
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To: Olog-hai

Obama sealed his school records so no one can see his grades, writings, or attendance status. Has anybody investigated archived newspapers in the areas Obama went to school to see if he ever was listed on an honor roll or dean’s list? I know a Reverend Manning investigated Barack Obama’s or Barry Soetoro’s attendance at Columbia and could not find one piece of evidence that he ever attended Columbia. They, interviewed staff, searched yearbooks, referenced excerpts from “Dreams of My Father” and found addresses Obama said he lived at during his attendance didn’t even exist. An Obama identified classmate friend (Phil Bonner) at Columbia was found to never have attended the school. Does Obama have a bad memory or is he just a fraudulent liar?


23 posted on 05/22/2012 10:58:06 AM PDT by Harley (Will Rogers never met Harry Reid.)
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To: Clara Lou
Breitbart News has established nothing except that it knows what we want to hear. This is bad for credibility.

Given Breitbart's history, it may be the bait to get the liberal defense media to have a scoff party and have Jon Stewart softshoe some snidery, before they produce the results.

Or, also possible, is that Breitbart has his SATs, but not legally. Then they can only use the information to rattle and taunt.

24 posted on 05/22/2012 11:00:38 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Olog-hai

Fuggedabout SATs

Which of these two Presidents has proven intelligent enought to fly (solo) a military jet?

Oh, wait...

I wouldn’t trust obama to push an elevator button.


25 posted on 05/22/2012 11:05:20 AM PDT by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: dead

I hope you’re right. I’d be delighted.


26 posted on 05/22/2012 11:08:19 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Sicon

” Did Obama Have Lower SAT Scores Than George W. Bush?

I would literally bet my life savings on it... “

Make that two life savings on it....Obama without a teleprompter is a near-illiterate stuttering, stammering jackass.


27 posted on 05/22/2012 11:10:31 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Olog-hai

Obama’s main problem is ignorance. He is reasonably smart but there is no way his SAT’s were higher than Bush’s. If his SAT’s were respectable he would have released them and done a victory lap long ago. They are almost certainly embarrassing and will remain under lock and key.


28 posted on 05/22/2012 11:11:31 AM PDT by Neanderthal
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To: Baynative

” Obama claims to have graduated Summa Cum Laude but can’t prove he went to class.”

Sorry, this is not possible, unless Obama took 32 courses in basket weaving. Obama is not very bright.


29 posted on 05/22/2012 11:13:08 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Cowboy Bob
Did he have to take TOEFL (since he was probably claiming foreign student status)?

Who is required to take the TOEFL? Isn't it incoming international students and students whose primary language is other than English? Did the TOEFL even exist then?

Things that make one go hmmmmm?? could the presence of this type of test be the reason all scores are sealed?

30 posted on 05/22/2012 11:14:24 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: SoftballMominVA
Actually, he wouldn't be required to take the TOEFL, since he graduated from an American high school - even if he was a foreign student.

But, it would be interesting to find out if he did claim foreign student status...

31 posted on 05/22/2012 11:26:09 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: bunster

A University is a collection of Colleges though often the colleges are not named differently. The University of Chicago has an undergraduate college within it called The College of the University of Chicago, grad students are not in the College but are in the University. Columbia University has Columbia College for undergraduates within its umbrella.

So there are one and the same but not really.

Oh, I am betting that The Disaster NEVER took an SAT or the ACT.


32 posted on 05/22/2012 11:26:40 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: sportutegrl

Yuuup! Breitbart.com plays those clowns like a fiddle. Pass the popcorn!


33 posted on 05/22/2012 11:27:55 AM PDT by mkboyce
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To: Cowboy Bob

The money came from a Saudi and was arranged through Percy Sutton.


34 posted on 05/22/2012 11:28:47 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: Harley
Obama sealed his school records so no one can see his grades, writings, or attendance status.

We haven't even seen a list of the courses he took. We can only guess.

Does Obama have a bad memory or is he just a fraudulent liar?

How about both? He can't seem to say more than a few words without looking at his written statement when he comes to the Rose Garden to speak from a podium. If lying can be defined as "an attempt to deceive" he is surely a liar.

35 posted on 05/22/2012 11:31:48 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Olog-hai

Obama is always the smartest man in the room......great, until you consider the other people in the room.........


36 posted on 05/22/2012 11:34:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Olog-hai

Does anyone know if there’s a precedent to a president issuing a similar EO blanket sealing their medical, school and other records?


37 posted on 05/22/2012 11:41:29 AM PDT by fire and forget
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To: arrogantsob

How about calling him The Man-made Disaster?


38 posted on 05/22/2012 11:53:59 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Olog-hai

I took the SAT for my brother - no problem. Got him onto the U. They thought he should take up engineering. He was a libo and voted for Oboma(now regrets it).


39 posted on 05/22/2012 11:54:05 AM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: Harley

I vote fraudulent liar.


40 posted on 05/22/2012 11:55:59 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Havisham
Colombia University is the ivy.

Colombia is in South America. It's Columbia University in New York and the undergraduate college is called Columbia College.

41 posted on 05/22/2012 11:56:29 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: stephenjohnbanker
I think that's the reasons all of his records area secret. It's quite likely he was matriculated through college with some help.

However, he has some smarts because he did pass the Illinois Bar Exam, even though he later had his license taken away because (allegedly) of a fraudulent application.

42 posted on 05/22/2012 12:02:46 PM PDT by Baynative (REMEMBER: Without America there is no free world!)
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To: Olog-hai

Breitbart would not have run this headline if they didn’t already know the answer.

Their modus operandi is:

(1) put a teaser out
(2) wait and let the left react and spin the story
(3) put out the fact proving the truth, which causes the left to get tangled up in their (now obvious) web of lies

Either Obama’s SAT scores were lower, or he never took the SAT and was admitted to college due to some special circumstance.


43 posted on 05/22/2012 12:03:56 PM PDT by Brookhaven (Don't mistake my vote for Romney as a vote FOR Romney, it's a vote against Obama.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Wouldn’t Satan be his mentor?


44 posted on 05/22/2012 12:09:24 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: SampleMan
Does anyone know what a 1/32 Cherokee score is worth?

A free recipe for some French food?

45 posted on 05/22/2012 12:16:12 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: arrogantsob

Or a close cousin or uncle of his! LOL!


46 posted on 05/22/2012 12:18:17 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Cowboy Bob

CIA scholarship.


47 posted on 05/22/2012 12:20:06 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

So that is the Uncle Nick he refers to?


48 posted on 05/22/2012 12:25:41 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: Baynative

” However, he has some smarts because he did pass the Illinois Bar Exam”

I would have to see him take the test in the flesh


49 posted on 05/22/2012 12:31:52 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: arrogantsob

It very well could be!


50 posted on 05/22/2012 12:48:26 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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