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In City Where Dogs Outnumber Children, Finding a Way for Coyotes to Coexist
ny times ^ | May 14, 2012 | NORIMITSU ONISHI

Posted on 05/16/2012 8:10:23 AM PDT by george76

SAN FRANCISCO — Dogs outnumber children here, making already assertive dog owners an even more formidable political force.

But the emergence in recent years of coyotes in the city’s parks, and sometimes in its expensive backyards and picturesque streets, has raised doubts about whether that founding legacy can survive. Will the two animal worlds — the domesticated and the wild — be able to coexist? Might they even, as many in this liberal city hope, ultimately complement each other?

Taking no chances, city officials recently cordoned off trails and barricaded a restroom in an area of Golden Gate Park where reports of coyotes following dog owners and approaching unleashed dogs have been rising

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: coyotes; doggieping; unleasheddogs
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To: Lurker
You can learn about them in the suburbs of Chicago. They’re picking of “Fluffies” right and left around here. I won’t let my dogs out in my fenced in backyard after dark alone anymore.

I see that you are in the Chicago area and I suppose that this is prohibited, but when I let my dogs out here in rural Virginia, I keep two fully-loaded .22 pistols near the door, ready to be brought into action if I see my dogs attacked. They are on a lawn and no further than 50 feet away always. And the spotlights show me the woods very well.

41 posted on 05/16/2012 9:40:21 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Dogs are just substitute children from homosexuals and lesbians.

Thank God for that. I'd rather they raise dogs than children.

42 posted on 05/16/2012 9:41:39 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: george76

Thank God there aren’t many children in SF. That depraved city is no place to raise a child.


43 posted on 05/16/2012 9:43:19 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: george76
There's a very good reason why my ancestors trapped, shot and poisoned coyotes.
44 posted on 05/16/2012 9:44:19 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: jazusamo; george76
By all means, shut down parks and wooded areas so the coyotes can protect their pups in their dens.

Lol!

I had to laugh at the liberal nature-worshipping stupidity coming from the San Francisco officials too. Hey, why not encourage mountain lions in the park too? Plenty to eat for them.

Speaking of which, heard my FOS (First of Season) mountain lion the other night at a remote mountain campsite. Sounded like a female in heat again.

Thanks for the ping, George! Back for a few days.

45 posted on 05/16/2012 9:45:13 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: jazusamo
Then next year their numbers will be double,

Coyotes breed year round, so if there is ample food and shelter you are looking at not a doubling of the population, but more likely a quadrupling, or more, of it.

46 posted on 05/16/2012 9:47:18 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek; lormand
Yes, something like that. The one in the picture looks well groomed compared to the dogs we saw. There was not a human (or a coyote) in sight and the dogs were on duty!
47 posted on 05/16/2012 9:48:19 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Jim Noble

Beautiful picture. Where and when was it taken?


48 posted on 05/16/2012 9:48:25 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: TLI
In San Francisco, a city of 805,000, there are 108,000 children, according to the 2010 census. And there are 180,000 dogs, and 10 coyotes, according to city estimates.

You're right, what a bunch of whining ninnies.

I live in a subdivision with a population of less than one thousand residents. The majority are empty-nesters, so proportionately there aren't all that many children here. The neighborhood sits on the edge of undeveloped forest land. There's a population of about a dozen coyotes living in the immediate area.

There are no outdoor cats here. If you see one once, you will never see it again. No one leaves small dogs outside unattended. Last week I watched a pair of coyotes chase four deer right past me, no more than 30 yards from where I stood. I once had a face-off with a coyote in my driveway who was interested in my fenced-in dog. That darn coyote walked straight up to me without fear, stopping about 6 feet away only because I started yelling, waving my arms, pounding my feet and making moves towards him. He just stood there and stared at me for a few minutes, then casually turned around and slowly walked away back up my driveway.

I would never walk around here unarmed. I don't mind coexisting with the varmints, but if one ever gets too aggressive and doesn't show signs of backing down, it'll be the last thing he does.

Now, the moose are a different story. There have been two incidents here of them coming into people's yards to attack their relatively big dogs. Moose are pretty darn scary. Maybe we should introduce some of them to San Francisco.

49 posted on 05/16/2012 10:01:57 AM PDT by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: USMCPOP

I live in Long Beach, CA. A few months back I saw a “stray dog” wandering down my street at about 11:30 pm. It appeared to be a Shepard mix. He was acting kind of shady. I whistled for him to come over. “Here boy”.

Then, out of the corner of my eye, I saw an exact duplicate of the same dog walking down the street. Then it struck me: Coyotes!

I try to bring my cat in at night, but he insists on being outdoors. He grew up in Wyoming and Texas, so he’s used to outdoor wildlife. He bullies the neighborhood strays, possums and racoons. (Yes, even in Long Beach we have a lot of wildlife).

I know some ninny will blast me for letting my cat go outdoors, but it’s his life. He is absolutely miserable indoors. So I let him live a full life. He’s survived in some tough places.

I have another cat that is NOT allowed outdoors, though she tries.

Coyotes are part of this country. I grew up in Texas. We were always aware of them.


50 posted on 05/16/2012 10:05:56 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: george76

Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya.

Dogs and Coyotes living in peace.

Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya.

Liberals minds are all diseased.


51 posted on 05/16/2012 10:07:31 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: george76

The coyotes in GG Park might have an impact on the huge number of druggies, criminals on the lam, drunks, and other assorted Democrats living there. Many keep dogs for pets/protection and the coyotes would find them easy pickings.


52 posted on 05/16/2012 10:10:58 AM PDT by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: BenLurkin

Not necessary. The 8.0 earthquake is just a matter of when, not if. The entire liberal wish list will be back burner for 20 years while the city digs out of the apocalyptic carnage.


53 posted on 05/16/2012 10:13:21 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Vigilanteman
Where and when was it taken?

Google image search. No other data.

54 posted on 05/16/2012 10:25:51 AM PDT by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: george76

Prime, choice, eaten lands for Baraka Obama....


55 posted on 05/16/2012 10:26:08 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: skeeter

>> I’m sure there are plenty of cats in the park at night to sustain a healthy coyote population.

Our house in Florida is across the street from a park. Wonder how I could get a couple of those coyotes from our Colorado property down here? Maybe we could train them to attack the cat dumpers.

Better yet, the little old ladys who come out in the middle of the night to feed the cats.


56 posted on 05/16/2012 10:46:38 AM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“Will the trapper be using a dead cat for bait?”

I hope not. My cat that is missing was about 12 years old and the best hunter I’ve ever had. He was big, long and lean and the fastest cat I’ve had, though was slowing down a wee bit. He loved eating squirrels, which aren’t the easiest things to catch. Acted like a dog around the house. We miss him.


57 posted on 05/16/2012 10:59:22 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Retired Greyhound

You experienced to wild parrots there, yet?


58 posted on 05/16/2012 11:05:20 AM PDT by Osage Orange (God is my Co-Pilot.)
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To: george76
Might they even, as many in this liberal city hope, ultimately complement each other?

Wokked Westie, coyote chow mein, and rice wine?

Coyote Caesar Salad, Braised Bichon with Bechmel, and a lively Beaujolais?

Blackened Coyote, Golden Gumbo, Garden Greens, with a good Gewerztraminer?

59 posted on 05/16/2012 11:33:11 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Osage Orange

Yes, I’ve seen the Wild Parrots. They’re funny.


60 posted on 05/16/2012 11:53:23 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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