Skip to comments.In City Where Dogs Outnumber Children, Finding a Way for Coyotes to Coexist
Posted on 05/16/2012 8:10:23 AM PDT by george76
SAN FRANCISCO Dogs outnumber children here, making already assertive dog owners an even more formidable political force.
But the emergence in recent years of coyotes in the citys parks, and sometimes in its expensive backyards and picturesque streets, has raised doubts about whether that founding legacy can survive. Will the two animal worlds the domesticated and the wild be able to coexist? Might they even, as many in this liberal city hope, ultimately complement each other?
Taking no chances, city officials recently cordoned off trails and barricaded a restroom in an area of Golden Gate Park where reports of coyotes following dog owners and approaching unleashed dogs have been rising
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“Dogs outnumber children here.” And probably spotted owls and newts outnumber dogs.
I’m sure there are plenty of cats in the park at night to sustain a healthy coyote population.
Remove all the people in San Francisco and create a UN Agenda 21 wilderness area ?
Dogs and coyotes can coexist..............until the coyote gets hungry. Then they will eat the dog. Live in rural areas for awhile and you will learn a lot about the coyote. He’s very good at survival.
Might they even, as many in this liberal city hope, ultimately complement each other?
...maybe reasoning with the coyotes or perhaps the city should pass a law where every family must sacrifice one member to the coyotes!
You can learn about them in the suburbs of Chicago. They’re picking of “Fluffies” right and left around here. I won’t let my dogs out in my fenced in backyard after dark alone anymore.
Shih Tzus and Coyotes? Not so much.
I have never before feared for the coyote population, but if they have to cohabitate with San Franciscans they may well be doomed.
Plus coyotes end up being target practice targets by those with rifles.
As in nine plus one.
Yep, don't want to take any chances.
Better just stay home.
Behind locked doors.
With the lights off.
The covers over their head.
Shivering in fear.
Government trappers will then have a lot more targets but by the time they get the trappers after the coyotes there’ll be a lot fewer pets.
I hear coyotes within a hundred yards of the house at night here. I don’t let my dogs go out alone at night.
“Remove all the people in San Francisco and create a UN Agenda 21 wilderness area ?”
Send all of the California left wing America haters and illegal aliens to Gay Frisco to live and don’t allow any of them to leave the city.
Also, ban any of our tax $’s federal/state from being sent to or spent in Gay Frisco.
Wow ... that's a thorough condemnation of San Fransicko.
Where would they go? Like locusts, they would devour the civilizations where they landed. Keep them there, eventually, they will eventually unpopulate themselves to nothing.
About 5 to 10 years ago here on FR there were stories of parents moving out of San Francisco to other cities and towns.
They did not want to raise their kids in the perverted city.
There must have been a lot of truth to those stories.
No need to use nukes. The earthquake will happen -- someday. Or, the city will collapse once the last of the normal sane people leave.
San Francisco is a homosexual haven.
They have gained political power because they have time and money to spend on themselves, whereas normal people pour themselves in to raising families.
In this case, the “gay” and self-indulgent lifestyle seems to have come back to bite them, literally.
Or the coyotes will win.
Coyotes are a major carrier of rabies and they should be eradicated as quiuckly as possible.
If you have a problem with coyotes I highly recommend a black lab. My own “rolls” coyotes for fun and they tend to stay away. She looks like a torpedo running through the tall grass when she goes after them and they can’t see her in the night (she knows this.
Earthquake, fire and brimstone... something, eh?
LOL! I'd love to watch that.
Labs are good for coyotes but for wolves you need a couple of these:
A couple of decades ago, one of our single younger relatives lived in a townhouse in Bend, Oregone with some fellow co workers.
Every afternoon after work, they tried to relax in their hot tub with a local micro beer. A neighbor would let her vile French Poodle out to bark at them and anything that was alive while doing her business.
One afternoon/evening right at sunset, after FiFi had been set out, a large coyote came up and grabbed FiFi by the neck and shook FiFi. Then, Wilie trotted off with his fresh French dinner.
As Wilie was leaving with FiFi doing her final yapping, FiFi's owner came out of her house and saw what was happening and asked her neighbors for help.
They held their Deschuttes micro beer bottles up and toasted Wilie.
The neighbor moved out shortly after that terrible event for her and FiFi. Peace and quiet with the reassuring howls of Wilie and his brothers was the norm in that neighborhood, from then on.
I lived in the middle of Houston and we have coyotes living right here. They travel up and down a bayou and venture 2 or 3 miles from that bayou into densely populated neighborhoods during the day and certainly at night. Small dogs and cats disappear often. I saw one at 1pm closer to The Galleria than he was to Buffalo Bayou. I had heard they were here but that still shocked me.
That’s why they didn’t want the IOWA. Afraid someone would turn those nine 16”ers around and improve the world.
I’ve seen ranchers here in Central Texas keep packs of large guard dogs within their property. That keeps everyone honest, especially coyotes and hogs.
I live about a mile from the Richmond, VA city limits. One of my cats disappeared about a month ago. Last week, I heard of two other cats killed nearby, and they found some remains. One of the pet owners just hired a trapper.
We were driving on a very rural dirt road in west central Texas and saw a flock of sheep. They were being guarded by 2 of the most magnificent huge white dogs. Can’t remember the breed right now but I would not have gotten out of the car even to fix a flat near those dogs. :D
Dogs are just substitute children from homosexuals and lesbians.
If you had put it that way, they might have wanted it.
Will the trapper be using a dead cat for bait?
Here’s a novel idea. Keep all the stinking pooping and peeing mutts out of the park. People are such slobs with pet “Froofry” crapping/peeing along the trail or on someone else’s property.
I see that you are in the Chicago area and I suppose that this is prohibited, but when I let my dogs out here in rural Virginia, I keep two fully-loaded .22 pistols near the door, ready to be brought into action if I see my dogs attacked. They are on a lawn and no further than 50 feet away always. And the spotlights show me the woods very well.
Thank God for that. I'd rather they raise dogs than children.
Thank God there aren’t many children in SF. That depraved city is no place to raise a child.
I had to laugh at the liberal nature-worshipping stupidity coming from the San Francisco officials too. Hey, why not encourage mountain lions in the park too? Plenty to eat for them.
Speaking of which, heard my FOS (First of Season) mountain lion the other night at a remote mountain campsite. Sounded like a female in heat again.
Thanks for the ping, George! Back for a few days.
Coyotes breed year round, so if there is ample food and shelter you are looking at not a doubling of the population, but more likely a quadrupling, or more, of it.
Beautiful picture. Where and when was it taken?
You're right, what a bunch of whining ninnies.
I live in a subdivision with a population of less than one thousand residents. The majority are empty-nesters, so proportionately there aren't all that many children here. The neighborhood sits on the edge of undeveloped forest land. There's a population of about a dozen coyotes living in the immediate area.
There are no outdoor cats here. If you see one once, you will never see it again. No one leaves small dogs outside unattended. Last week I watched a pair of coyotes chase four deer right past me, no more than 30 yards from where I stood. I once had a face-off with a coyote in my driveway who was interested in my fenced-in dog. That darn coyote walked straight up to me without fear, stopping about 6 feet away only because I started yelling, waving my arms, pounding my feet and making moves towards him. He just stood there and stared at me for a few minutes, then casually turned around and slowly walked away back up my driveway.
I would never walk around here unarmed. I don't mind coexisting with the varmints, but if one ever gets too aggressive and doesn't show signs of backing down, it'll be the last thing he does.
Now, the moose are a different story. There have been two incidents here of them coming into people's yards to attack their relatively big dogs. Moose are pretty darn scary. Maybe we should introduce some of them to San Francisco.
I live in Long Beach, CA. A few months back I saw a “stray dog” wandering down my street at about 11:30 pm. It appeared to be a Shepard mix. He was acting kind of shady. I whistled for him to come over. “Here boy”.
Then, out of the corner of my eye, I saw an exact duplicate of the same dog walking down the street. Then it struck me: Coyotes!
I try to bring my cat in at night, but he insists on being outdoors. He grew up in Wyoming and Texas, so he’s used to outdoor wildlife. He bullies the neighborhood strays, possums and racoons. (Yes, even in Long Beach we have a lot of wildlife).
I know some ninny will blast me for letting my cat go outdoors, but it’s his life. He is absolutely miserable indoors. So I let him live a full life. He’s survived in some tough places.
I have another cat that is NOT allowed outdoors, though she tries.
Coyotes are part of this country. I grew up in Texas. We were always aware of them.