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Romney backs away from gay adoptions [Friday night, after endorsing Thursday]
CBS news ^ | May 11, 2012 | Matthew Shelley

Posted on 05/12/2012 8:12:05 AM PDT by kevcol

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To: L,TOWM

“Even if it means four more years of an empty suited incompetant liberal.”

Did you just call Obama an “empty suited incompetent liberal”?

HAHAHA, that’s rich. If only that were the case. You can’t be that naive.

He is a committed Marxist ideologue, bent on destroying this country and replacing it with a socialist Utopia. And he’s pretty close to achieving his goals.

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151 posted on 05/13/2012 5:56:05 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Anyone who thinks we can sit home, then survive four more years of Obama, is a damned fool.)
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To: little jeremiah
"We need a REVOLUTION AT THE CONVENTION!

The estiablishemnt RINO GOP insider elites are OUR ENEMIES!! WE DON’T HAVE TO TAKE IT!!!"

That sounds like a great plan. Now!! ELABORATE. How do we do it & WHO do we ALL get behind as our candidate?' We still have time - but just talk with no plan won't accomplish anything.

152 posted on 05/13/2012 10:06:44 AM PDT by LADY J (You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have. - Author Unknown)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

You should be a little more careful about whom you call naive, sir.

We have basically the same economic system as the People’s Republic China right now and have for several years. Do you really believe you still have the rights specified in the first 10 amendments to the constitution?

The United States of America was dead before I saw my 18th birthday. It just took me another 30 years to recognize that fact and to recognize the fact that our government is now of, by, and for about 25,000 to 50,000 people and the rest of us are just wiping their butts for them. When our betters decide what needs to be done, it is done, constitution or the good of the nation be dammed.

If you still believe you live in something that our founders would recognize as a free republic, you may need to address the naive comment to the mirror.

Zero is nothing - a face bought and paid for by the same people that bought and paid for both Bushes & Clinton. If he gets a little too uppity our disrupts the apple cart enough to tick the market down too many points, he’ll get a pat on the head and kicked back to the plantation with the rest of serf’s before you can say “yes we can”.


153 posted on 05/13/2012 12:06:26 PM PDT by L,TOWM (Write in Chuck Norris for POTUS and tell the power brokers to FOAD.)
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To: kevcol
Willard would permanently redefine the party leftward. This would marginalize Conservatives for a generation (at least) and give the GOP-e the real mandate it wants: to tell Conservatives to sit down, shut up and get with the program.

Exactly. I've seen a few fools who think that we can somehow influence Romney. If Romney gets in, he is going to surround himself with people like him, and he will strengthen the liberal grip on the GOP. If Romney gets the nomination and loses (which he probably will), we'll still see somebody even more liberal being run in 2016, assuming Romney doesn't make another run.

Every GOP candidate starting in 1988 with George H. W. Bush has been more and more liberal, and Mittens is just the last in 24 year string of RINOs.

The challenge is for Conservatives to truly unite and to truly stand up to the liberals running the GOP. As long as we keep getting brainwashed into automatically voting for the Republican simply because he has an (R) next to his name, that will not happen, and the liberals will continue to consolidate their power within the GOP.
154 posted on 05/13/2012 12:44:29 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: rcrngroup
In the House, Boehner is the most incompetent, inept, ineffective Speaker of the House we could possibly end up with. He is a cry baby, and he is dumber than dirt and looks it with his deputy dog droopy eyes, and along with Biden, ranks as the 2 dumbest politicians in DC!

You want something scary? In a Romney administration, Boehner and the rest of the RINOs in Congress would automatically sign off on anything Romney wants.

So if 0dumb0 wins this coming Nov 2012, we will likely no longer have a country or constitution by 2016.

People were saying that in 2008, and it didn't happen, and since 2008 we've made gains in Congress, and should make gains this year. We can survive Obama, and we could even survive Romney, but we have to buckle down, because either one is going to do a lot of harm to this country. Hell, we survived the Civil War, and that was much worse than what we have here in 2012.
155 posted on 05/13/2012 12:48:29 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: cripplecreek
As far as I'm concerned its much worse than gay marriage. As I predicted, Obama played Romney perfectly knowing that Romney would go off the rails to fight it. Next week it will happen again with some other issue, and the week after....

This is but one of many reasons why I hated seeing Gingrich drop out. Romney is already allowing himself to be played by Obama's people, and they haven't even gotten into the serious campaigning.

If Romney can allow himself to be so easily manipulated by Obama and the MSM, it's going to be incredibly painful watching the general election play out.
156 posted on 05/13/2012 12:51:43 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

I supported Santorum but like you I supported my guy because he knew where he stood and wasn’t going to back down or triangulate under pressure.


157 posted on 05/13/2012 12:55:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
So... basically your saying that it’s better for the government to raise the child than ANY gay person?

I'm saying under NO circumstances should a child be given to a gay couple or a gay individual.

There is no good reason period to do this.

The scripture I posted to you makes that clear, plain and simple.

And frankly, my associations with homosexuals has only re-inforced that scripture definition of their lives and the total evilness they live in.
158 posted on 05/13/2012 1:18:49 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: kevcol
We're dealing in hypotheticals at this time, talking about secession, but in fact I do believe we are already too far down the socialist hell-hole under any scenario of a U.S. citizenry taking up arms against the USSA.

Secondly, whether most of the top brass supports 0dumb0? In the 2008 election, 0dumb0 had a photo shoot of over 50 retired generals & admirals, all firmly in 0dumb0's camp. Can you imagine how it is now with active officers not advancing in rank, unless they suck up to 0dumb0 & his socialist policies, including active support for homosexuals & lesbians, and condescending to any special treatment for muzzies in the military? I predict 70-80% of the top brass (just like the top execs in any major, politically correct Fortune 500 company) are firmly in the tank for 0dumb0.

Thirdly, this is IMHO, but any vote for anybody but Willard is a vote for 0dumb0. I would rather try to sway Willard on his views or policies, as opposed to a commie pig like 0dumb0 on steroids or cocaine, who has no incenctive after 2012 (assuming he wins the 2012 election) to slow down any part of his communist agenda.

159 posted on 05/13/2012 9:47:03 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: af_vet_rr
Personally I think our situation is far more serious now, than at any time in history, and that includes the CW I. That was primarily a states rights conflict. We now have a deviant, evil, perhaps even non-U.S. citizen as president of our country, who is a committed socialist-marxist commie pig of the highest degree. He is committed to taking the U.S. down his pathway to socialist-marxist-communist Hell, because that is the essence of his globalist/new world order ideology & agenda.

We survived from 2008 to now, largely because we won the House back in Nov 2010 (even though droopy eyes crybaby Boehner has squandered and lost any momentum or surge from that) and 0dumb0 could not fully release his evil for this country because he NEEDS that 2nd term victory in Nov 2012. Assuming he wins the 2012 election, he will be an evil despot on steroids or cocaine, as there will be nothing to restain him or his evil socialist-marxist-commie pig agenda.

I would rather try to influence Romney to change his socalist tendencies, rather than trying to influence or change a commie pig like 0dumb0 who would have no incentive whatsover to modify or change his evil agenda.

160 posted on 05/13/2012 10:04:16 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: kevcol

Romney didn’t help Catholic agencies in Massachusetts
who saw the evil of sodomite adoption. He could of and
didn’t.

Important, the question was asked, so you’re for sodomy sometimes when it involves children but not marriage?


161 posted on 05/13/2012 10:16:37 PM PDT by stpio
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To: rcrngroup
I would rather try to influence Romney to change his socalist tendencies, rather than trying to influence or change a commie pig like 0dumb0 who would have no incentive whatsover to modify or change his evil agenda.

If Romney gets the nomination and somehow wins, which is very doubtful, it will be attributed to the fact that he is a liberal Republican and a would-be socialist. That means the GOP and Romney will ignore people like you and me even more.

Unfortunately, the GOP is counting on people like you who are gullible enough to believe you can influence him.

You'll support him now with this misguided hope that you can influence him, and then in 2016, assuming Romney loses, the GOP will run somebody just as liberal, or more liberal than Romney. In 2016, you'll go along with it, again with the misguided belief that you can influence him (or her).

The pattern will repeat in 2020, and at some point in all of this, the GOP is going to lose Texas - too many damned liberals have moved into this state, the Hispanic population is growing rapidly, and the Democrats nearly have the Hispanics in their pocket.

You know what the GOP will do when they lose Texas? Move even further left. The GOP has been steadily moving farther and farther left, and they will do as long as people like you mistakenly believe you can influence RINOs.
162 posted on 05/14/2012 2:45:18 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
.....rather than trying to influence or change a commie pig like 0dumb0 who would have no incentive whatsover to modify or change his evil agenda.

Actually I agree with most of your comments. However you never answered the question of WHAT ABOUT 4 MORE YEARS OF 0DUMB0 UNRESTAINED BY ANYTHING? Certainly not the GOP House led by crybaby droopy eyes deputy dog Boehner or milk toast Rich McConnell. In fact, given the fact that the GOP normally tends to eat its own, rather than go head to head with demoRATs or especially 0dumb0, I would wager that we would see more resistance by the GOP House & a GOP Senate against overreaches by Mitt, as opposed to overreaches by 0dumb0. In those cases, the neutered GOP led by eunech Boehner will cave each & every time to 0dumb0. Whether 0dumb0 is facing a GOP House & GOP Senate, or just a GOP House with demoRAT Senate makes no difference to 0dumb0. He will ramrod through his marxist-communist agenda & policies and Boehner will continue to look even dumber & more inept & incompetent than Joe "stand up Chuck" Biden.

You can vote how you want and I will vote how I want. If 0dumb0 gets re-elected by whatever means, hook or crook, whatever, it will be the final nail in the coffin for the USA. Our country as we currently know it will cease to exist in its current form or constitution between 2012 & 2016. I gotta hold my nose & vote for Mitt.... the alternative of writing in or voting for some other candidate will be a vote for the anti-Christ Devil incarnate 0dumb0! I won't do that.

163 posted on 05/14/2012 7:44:10 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: SoConPubbie

Romans 1:18-32. A GREAT passage of scripture in exposing the lies of the homo/lesbian deviants. Homosexual & lesbian behavior is an UNNATURAL choice and is the final stage in reprobate behavior as God gives them over to the unrestained deviant lusts of their own behavior. There is nothing natural about it. And I agree with your comments on the dangerous consequences to allow minor children to be adopted by ANY homo or lesbian couple. “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools”.


164 posted on 05/14/2012 8:00:58 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: rcrngroup
However you never answered the question of WHAT ABOUT 4 MORE YEARS OF 0DUMB0 UNRESTAINED BY ANYTHING?

We took the House in 2010, and we will make more gains in 2012. Obammer will not be "unrestrained". If he is, it's only because Republicans in Congress fail us. If the Republicans fail us under Obama, they would fail us under Romney, since Romney would have the support of both RINOs and Democrats in Congress.

I gotta hold my nose & vote for Mitt.... the alternative of writing in or voting for some other candidate will be a vote for the anti-Christ Devil incarnate 0dumb0! I won't do that.

I will not hold my nose and vote for a man who has a proven track record of supporting abortion, gay marriage, socialism, and gun control, which means I will not be supporting Romney or Obama. You can compromise your morals and principles, I will not.
165 posted on 05/14/2012 8:14:11 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
You can compromise your morals and principles, I will not.

Don't get all high & mighty & self-righteous about it. We're fighting against a demonic evil incarnation of the devil in the form of 0dumb0. You make your choices & I will make mine. I would rather see Willard in the WH than 4 years of unrestrained 0dumb0.

Since Nov 2010 Boehner & the House GOP have been defeated and humiliated on every single intiative of 0dumb0, most predominantly giving another $2.4 Trillion slush fund to 0dumb0 by raising the debt ceiling, allowing 0dumb0 to conduct an illegal, un-authorized war against Libya, allowing 0dumb0's non-recess appointments to stand (McConnell), allowing the stone-walling & obstruction on Fast & Furious, etc. Watching cry-baby, inept, incompetent Boehner go up against the RAT bastard socialist 0dumb0 is like watching a T-ball team of 5 yr olds go up against a major league team. As much as I hate 0dumb0, he makes mince meat of Boehner. Boehner has single handedly squandered every bit of momentum & surge following the Nov 2010 election. Also I personally don't see a lot more House seats flipping over to the GOP and I don't see the Senate flipping over to the GOP either. I would rather see a split, deadlocked legislature House vs Senate, with Romney in the WH rather than 0dumb0 for all the reasons I outlined previously.

I think we've bludgeoned this thread long enough. Time to move onto another post FReeper Friend.

166 posted on 05/14/2012 8:48:37 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: kevcol

I agree. If there’s one guy who could lose to Obama, it’s Milt. I’m afraid that he is going to go soft on his attacks, so as to be “liked” by the folks who hate him. Much like Juan did in ‘08. It would mean disaster for his campaign. Bob


167 posted on 05/15/2012 12:25:36 PM PDT by alstewartfan ( 27 of 36 Romney judicial appointments were DEMOCRATS!!!!!)
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To: rcrngroup
Since Nov 2010 Boehner & the House GOP have been defeated and humiliated on every single intiative of 0dumb0, most predominantly giving another $2.4 Trillion slush fund to 0dumb0 by raising the debt ceiling, allowing 0dumb0 to conduct an illegal, un-authorized war against Libya, allowing 0dumb0's non-recess appointments to stand (McConnell), allowing the stone-walling & obstruction on Fast & Furious, etc. Watching cry-baby, inept, incompetent Boehner go up against the RAT bastard socialist 0dumb0 is like watching a T-ball team of 5 yr olds go up against a major league team. As much as I hate 0dumb0, he makes mince meat of Boehner. Boehner has single handedly squandered every bit of momentum & surge following the Nov 2010 election. Also I personally don't see a lot more House seats flipping over to the GOP and I don't see the Senate flipping over to the GOP either. I would rather see a split, deadlocked legislature House vs Senate, with Romney in the WH rather than 0dumb0 for all the reasons I outlined previously.

Obama is bad, nobody is denying that, but you can't just focus on Obama, because the RINOs are just as bad. Look at what happened before Obama - We had a RINO by the name of George W. Bush who increased the size, power, scope and intrusiveness of the federal government like nobody else before him, and he did it with a Republican Congress, all in the name of fighting an endless war on a word, "terror". Romney is even more liberal than Bush, and Romney will also have the support of many Democrats and RINOs, just as Bush did.

The problem is not just Democrats, it's the damned RINOs like Bush and Romney, and as long as you keep supporting them, they'll keep on doing what they are doing.

I can promise you, in 2016, and 2020, you will get even more liberal Republicans if you continue supporting the GOP-e.
168 posted on 05/15/2012 2:43:16 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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