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Bush Solicitor General Ted Olson Hails Obama Gay Marriage Shift
The Daily Beast ^ | May 9 2012 | John Avlon

Posted on 05/10/2012 12:38:27 PM PDT by torchy

..."I am gratified that the president has thrown his personal support and the authority of the presidency behind the goal of justice, equality, and decency for all citizens," said Ted Olson, founder of the Federalist Society and former Bush administration solicitor general..

I called Olson on Wednesday to get the conservative legal leader's take on the North Carolina gay-marriage ban at the ballot and the way it sets up a Supreme Court showdown, possibly as early as 2013--no matter who is president.

Olson has stern words for his fellow conservatives who flooded the polls on Tuesday, making North Carolina the 30th state to enshrine a ban on gay marriage in its state constitution.

"It is very sad to me that people who belong to the party of Abraham Lincoln are resisting so strenuously the equality and decency and integrity and treatment of our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters," Olson said. "This seems to be one of the last major civil-rights battles of our country. And for people in our country to come out in numbers like this and say, ‘Well, we don't want the persons next door--who are decent, God-fearing, taxpaying, obeying-the-law citizens who simply want to have happiness like the rest of us'--to say ‘No, I have that right and you can't have it.' That just seems mean to me."..

This is a profile-in-courage moment for President Obama, but it comes with considerable political risks. The decision recalls a moment of White House history that came to light in the fourth volume of Robert Caro's LBJ biography. When cautioned by advisers that advancing civil rights might be moral but would not be politically pragmatic in 1964, the new president leaned back in his chair and said, "Well, what the hell's the presidency for?"...

(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybeast.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: avlon; civilliberty; civilrights; homosexualagenda; law; legalscholarship; nolabels; olson; rino; tedolson; torched; zot; zotworthy
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To: torchy

God fearing???


41 posted on 05/10/2012 1:15:46 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: torchy

I’m more interested in the fact that this piece was written by John Avlon.

Isn’t he the “no labels” guy whose schtick is to push the leftist agenda under the pretense that he is a non-partisan?

One of his goals is to create dissension in the ranks of Conservatives. People on this thread who are falling for it are doing exactly what he wants them to do.

“No labels” is just as much of a fraud and leftist scam as the Clintonist “Third Way” was. It is every bit as non-partisan as the NAACP or ACORN or SEIU.

And it’s just as phony as having someone like Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid decry the partisanship in Washington, when of course they themselves are rabid partisans whose extremist goals are out of step with a majority Center/Right nation.

Don’t be fooled by this type of agit-prop. He and his ilk are constantly putting on leftist “morality plays”, except that we all know that the left’s agenda is anything but moral...


42 posted on 05/10/2012 1:16:39 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: torchy

“A conservative legal scholar’s take.”

A position shared with Sen. Barry Goldwater, deceased

and Vice President Dick Cheney, renewed


43 posted on 05/10/2012 1:16:47 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: greene66

“It’s such a shame that Ted wasn’t in that plane instead of his wife.”

I totally agree.


44 posted on 05/10/2012 1:19:39 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: truth_seeker
A position shared with Sen. Barry Goldwater, deceased and Vice President Dick Cheney, renewed

And, by you?

Goldwater married for former Planned Parenthood director and Cheney has a lesbian daughter.

There is nothing conservative about perverting what marriage is.

45 posted on 05/10/2012 1:21:36 PM PDT by Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
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To: truth_seeker
I would gently disagree that Cheney and Goldwater agree, or would have agreed, with Olsen.

Olsen argues that the Constitution already requires recognition of gay marriage -- that we, as state voters, don't even get a say in the matter.

Cheney or Goldwater may favor changing state laws to recognize gay marriage ... but IMO they would disagree with Olsen's argument that "it's not even up for a vote."

46 posted on 05/10/2012 1:21:43 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: cblue55

“This headline needs a hurl alert!”

####

Don’t count on it.

torchy
Since May 7, 2012

“A conservative legal scholar’s take.”

This is an ADVOCACY post.

“Torchy” BTW was a pornographic cartoon character created by Bill Ward.


47 posted on 05/10/2012 1:21:50 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Non-Holder person.)
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To: torchy

BTW, welcome to FR.

Are you really new here or are you, um, someone else in real life?


48 posted on 05/10/2012 1:21:59 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: pogo101

I believe homosexuality was an offense punished by death in some states around the time the Constitution was written.


49 posted on 05/10/2012 1:22:37 PM PDT by alpo
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Come now. Wishing death on the guy because he’s gotten his head up his butt politically is going to far.


50 posted on 05/10/2012 1:23:07 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: alpo

Not sure, but these liberal scholars (yes) are the same kind who can swear to us that the Eighth Amendment bars the death penalty even though every state that ratified it HAD the death penalty.


51 posted on 05/10/2012 1:24:29 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: alpo

Eh, so was helping slaves escape.


52 posted on 05/10/2012 1:24:38 PM PDT by torchy
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To: torchy
Eh, so was helping slaves escape.

Welcome to FR.

So laws against gay marriage in the 1800s, are to be viewed today as being just as bad as slavery was? Sodomy is a conduct (whether or not it should be outlawed). Slavery was based on race alone.

53 posted on 05/10/2012 1:30:29 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: pogo101

“Come now. Wishing death on the guy because he’s gotten his head up his butt politically is going to far.”

No. I didn’t/don’t wish him death. I only wished he would have been on that aircraft instead of Barbara. I for one didn’t know that aircraft was going to crash into the Pentagon.


54 posted on 05/10/2012 1:32:11 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: torchy
When cautioned by advisers that advancing civil rights might be moral but would not be politically pragmatic in 1964, the new president leaned back in his chair and said, "Well, what the hell's the presidency for?"...

I've always heard that he leaned back in his chair and said, "I'll have them n------s voting Democrat for two hundred years."

55 posted on 05/10/2012 1:33:48 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: torchy; little jeremiah

0b0z0’s Komsomol or 0h0m0’s Komsotrolls members who are coming out to make sure he’s reelected, especially after coming out of the closet!

Posting history that includes attacking Bristol Palin, etc.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:torchy/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change


56 posted on 05/10/2012 1:34:41 PM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
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To: torchy
I believe homosexuality was an offense punished by death in some states around the time the Constitution was written.

Eh, so was helping slaves escape.

Aren't you confusing the Code of Hammurabi with state laws?

If not, please cite your source for a US state law around the time that the Constitution was written that prescribed the death penalty for helping slaves escape.

(Not 'slave rebellion', but 'helping slaves escape').

57 posted on 05/10/2012 1:36:56 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Zeppo; torchy; a fool in paradise; Deb; 50mm; Darksheare; darkwing104
Are you really new here or are you, um, someone else in real life?

n00b torchy (since 2012-05-07) has posted two articles – Dana Milbank and now John Avlon. Not your typical FR posts.

FReeper ‘a fool in paradise’ appropriately wondered [regarding torchy] … Is you a Moby??!!!

58 posted on 05/10/2012 1:37:48 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: torchy
Eh, so was helping slaves escape

You are comparing slavery to a sexual fetish? Oh dear.

59 posted on 05/10/2012 1:37:55 PM PDT by RMDupree (I'm not really here.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
"I think its going to come out that the RNC is crawling with gays."

I wouldn't be surprised. The RNC, and Republicans in general, are becoming as bad as the Dems.

60 posted on 05/10/2012 1:41:13 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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