Posted on 05/10/2012 12:38:27 PM PDT by torchy
..."I am gratified that the president has thrown his personal support and the authority of the presidency behind the goal of justice, equality, and decency for all citizens," said Ted Olson, founder of the Federalist Society and former Bush administration solicitor general..
I called Olson on Wednesday to get the conservative legal leader's take on the North Carolina gay-marriage ban at the ballot and the way it sets up a Supreme Court showdown, possibly as early as 2013--no matter who is president.
Olson has stern words for his fellow conservatives who flooded the polls on Tuesday, making North Carolina the 30th state to enshrine a ban on gay marriage in its state constitution.
"It is very sad to me that people who belong to the party of Abraham Lincoln are resisting so strenuously the equality and decency and integrity and treatment of our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters," Olson said. "This seems to be one of the last major civil-rights battles of our country. And for people in our country to come out in numbers like this and say, Well, we don't want the persons next door--who are decent, God-fearing, taxpaying, obeying-the-law citizens who simply want to have happiness like the rest of us'--to say No, I have that right and you can't have it.' That just seems mean to me."..
This is a profile-in-courage moment for President Obama, but it comes with considerable political risks. The decision recalls a moment of White House history that came to light in the fourth volume of Robert Caro's LBJ biography. When cautioned by advisers that advancing civil rights might be moral but would not be politically pragmatic in 1964, the new president leaned back in his chair and said, "Well, what the hell's the presidency for?"...
(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybeast.com ...
And lawyers wonder why they’re universally despised in this country...
What the heck happened to Olsen?
Barbara Olson is rolling over in her grave
THIS is what “happened” to Ted:
On October 21, 2006 Olson married Lady Booth, a tax attorney and native of Kentucky.[8]
[edit] PoliticsOlson was present at the first meeting of the Federalist Society.[9] He has served on the board of directors of American Spectator magazine.[10] Olson was a prominent critic of Bill Clinton’s presidency, and he helped prepare the attorneys of Paula Jones prior to their Supreme Court appearance.[2] Olson’s wife, Lady, has described herself as a lifelong registered Democrat.[11] She has contributed to the campaigns of Barack Obama and Rudy Giuliani. Olson served Giuliani’s 2008 presidential campaign as judicial committee chairman.[9]
Olson believes there is a constitutional right for same-sex marriage.[12]
conservative legal scholar’
....Olson hasn’t been conservative in a long time... pure NWO and is probably gay himself. Yes, I know he remarried, but then look at 0baMao... He’s been on the wrong side of most issues since ‘01. Worked to undo the will of the voters in CA helping overturn Prop 8...
ymmv
Ted is enlightened. I have a suspicion that he will be a bit less enlightened with polygamy but he will eventually come around. Of course his enlightenment turns to condescending bitchiness when it comes to those who hold that marriage is a man/woman thing but that’s the norm among the enlightened.
Wow. Ted really lost it after losing BKO. :-(
Wonderful Barbara Olsen must be turning over in her grave.
I never could figure out what she saw in this jerk.
Kinda old news....from Dec. 2010;
“Ted Olson, Gay Marriage’s Unlikely Legal Warrior”
http://www.npr.org/2010/12/06/131792296/ted-olson-gay-marriage-s-unlikely-legal-warrior
“fellow conservatives” implies that he’s conservative.
Guess not!
There are certainly plenty of conservatives who are not churched, not Christian, or nominally Christian based upon their particular strain of the facts and on the facts. ;)
That the state of marriage was ever considered a sacrament by not only the Catholic Church, but virtually all other so called mainline churches in America, is simply a fact not well known in the USA any longer.
Ignorance and faithlessness today abounds and makes it easy to be both conservative and liberal at the same time, on every issue of consequence.
Ted Olsen was retained by LightSquared in its battle against the FCC.
He seems to be on the wrong side of everything these days.
I think its going to come out that the RNC is crawling with gays.
This headline needs a hurl alert!
This headline needs a hurl alert!
That is the truth.

RIP BKO
I’m beginning to wonder if Barbara was a beard.
http://www.cocktailhag.com/blog/holy-singers/the-belated-education-of-john-avlon/
“Conservative”? (”Scholar”?)
After the decisive rejection and ejection of GOP moderate statesman Dick Lugar,
IMHO the definition of “conservative” no longer includes the word “moderate.”
From now on, conservatives will not want to go along to get along. Why should we? We’re calling the shots.
P.S.
I miss Barbara Olsen very much. She was so smart, and she was also a fellow Freeper.
I also enjoyed listening to her on TV.
Pathetic!!! thanks for that info
He sees David Boies and wishes he had that kind of juice. So he decides he has to join the other side. It’s what will happen to everyone in the next generation if the socialists complete their takeover. You will have to acquiesce in their agenda or be shut out of power and wealth. Those with ambition will have to go along. Unless we win now.
Does this sound like the founder of the Federalist Society, or an 8-year old girl?
It’s such a shame that Ted wasn’t in that plane instead of his wife.
I’ve lived in Manhattan and I’ve lived in Washington DC.
Both places have a very strong “culture.” The people in both places, especially the upper classes and elitists, have a surprisingly uniform and lock-step thinking.
I’m convinced that if you are living there, and soaking in this culture long enough, there is immense pressure within one’s own mind to find ways to conform and “be accepted.”
For Ted Olson (who I will guess probably still calls himself “conservative”) the gay issue does this for him.
Please ... tell us more about your definition of "conservative".
Olson has lost my respect.
A conservative legal scholar’s take.
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Legal scholar? I suppose.
Conservative? Not even close.
He is probably hooking up with homo supporter Ann Coulter!
Agree. I thought the same.
Proof positive ladies & gentlemen that there is NO difference between the Republicans and the Democrats.
It sounds like Ted might have “evolved” too! Evolution is in the wind. We need a Chuck Darwin Day.
He was so overshadowed by Barbaras intellect and personality that I dont think too many folks saw the real idiot Ted.
I think you are right, but isnt that what the so called “Log Cabin” republicans are?
It’s amazing how calling oneself a conservative, and then taking very pro-liberal stances, gets one noticed in the national media (e.g., Ted Olson, Meghan McCain).
Not so much, methinks.
Doesn't mean that states can't vote it in, as New York did recently. But the notion that "it's (gay marriage is) already IN the Constitution" is preposterous.
God fearing???
I’m more interested in the fact that this piece was written by John Avlon.
Isn’t he the “no labels” guy whose schtick is to push the leftist agenda under the pretense that he is a non-partisan?
One of his goals is to create dissension in the ranks of Conservatives. People on this thread who are falling for it are doing exactly what he wants them to do.
“No labels” is just as much of a fraud and leftist scam as the Clintonist “Third Way” was. It is every bit as non-partisan as the NAACP or ACORN or SEIU.
And it’s just as phony as having someone like Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid decry the partisanship in Washington, when of course they themselves are rabid partisans whose extremist goals are out of step with a majority Center/Right nation.
Don’t be fooled by this type of agit-prop. He and his ilk are constantly putting on leftist “morality plays”, except that we all know that the left’s agenda is anything but moral...
“A conservative legal scholar’s take.”
A position shared with Sen. Barry Goldwater, deceased
and Vice President Dick Cheney, renewed
“Its such a shame that Ted wasnt in that plane instead of his wife.”
I totally agree.
And, by you?
Goldwater married for former Planned Parenthood director and Cheney has a lesbian daughter.
There is nothing conservative about perverting what marriage is.
Olsen argues that the Constitution already requires recognition of gay marriage -- that we, as state voters, don't even get a say in the matter.
Cheney or Goldwater may favor changing state laws to recognize gay marriage ... but IMO they would disagree with Olsen's argument that "it's not even up for a vote."
“This headline needs a hurl alert!”
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Don’t count on it.
torchy
Since May 7, 2012
“A conservative legal scholar’s take.”
This is an ADVOCACY post.
“Torchy” BTW was a pornographic cartoon character created by Bill Ward.
BTW, welcome to FR.
Are you really new here or are you, um, someone else in real life?
I believe homosexuality was an offense punished by death in some states around the time the Constitution was written.
Come now. Wishing death on the guy because he’s gotten his head up his butt politically is going to far.
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