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Lugar defeat underscores vanishing U.S. political middle
Reuters ^ | May 9, 2012 | By Thomas Ferraro and David Lawder

Posted on 05/09/2012 4:24:22 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

The landslide defeat of U.S. Senator Richard Lugar in Indiana sent an ominous message to Washington: unprecedented partisan gridlock in Congress likely will worsen next year and make difficult efforts to cut the record U.S. debt even tougher.

Tuesday's vote also delivered a punch to the gut of the Senate's "old guard," which for years has sought to restore the chamber's reputation as "the world's most deliberative body."

Widely hailed as an elder statesman, Lugar lost the Republican primary in his home state to a Tea Party-backed challenger, largely because he was seen as not conservative enough and too willing to compromise.

While politics has been long defined as the art of compromise, victor Richard Mourdock, who ridiculed Lugar's willingness to cut deals, made a prediction about next year.

"I don't think there's going to be a lot of successful compromise," Mourdock told CNN on Wednesday after beating Lugar, a 36-year veteran of the Senate, by double digits. Bipartisanship, Mourdock added, means Democrats voting for Republican initiatives.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: election2012; liberty; lugar; rinos
The "middle"? How about more Reagan democrats.
1 posted on 05/09/2012 4:24:35 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Compromise,” to these leftist jerks, means that Republicans should do whatever the Democrats want.


2 posted on 05/09/2012 4:27:37 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Socialists are now the middle according to the media.


3 posted on 05/09/2012 4:28:30 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
...unprecedented partisan gridlock in Congress likely will worsen next year and make difficult efforts to cut the record U.S. debt even tougher.

That's total BS. It is democrats and "compromising" republicans that refuse to make the tough calls and cut spending. When republicans get back to hard core fiscal conservatism, and quit "compromising", the debt problem will begin to get solved.

4 posted on 05/09/2012 4:29:46 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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To: GeronL

They’ve moderated the GOP into a coma, maybe they’ll go try to moderate the party that actually needs it.


5 posted on 05/09/2012 4:36:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Middle” of what? Statism?

That’s no political center!


6 posted on 05/09/2012 4:39:31 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
When Dick Lugar loses, it harkens the vanishing political middle.

In 2010, when Russ Feingold lost, it was stupid voters.

Go figure.

-PJ

7 posted on 05/09/2012 4:51:46 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
the middle is for Independents... if you are a Republican you BETTER be on the right or get out!!!
8 posted on 05/09/2012 4:55:22 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Notice the disappearance of non-radical Dems. The party is almost entirely purged.


9 posted on 05/09/2012 4:56:01 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Mediocrity is for losers. Leaders LEAD.


10 posted on 05/09/2012 4:58:51 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I was impressed at the margin of victory for Mourdock.
Tremendous enthusiasm on the part of voters here in Indiana.

And to those Dems who think he’s an easier candidate to beat in November, Mourdock got 63% in his Nov 2010 election vs. a Dem for State treasurer.


11 posted on 05/09/2012 5:02:22 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
We have “Compromised” our country into a political and fiscal hole.

NO more political “compromising” !

12 posted on 05/09/2012 5:03:43 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The landslide defeat of U.S. Senator Richard Lugar in Indiana sent an ominous message to Washington.”

I sure hope so. I hope they are quaking in their boots. The conservatives are coming for you. Be afraid. Be very afraid.


13 posted on 05/09/2012 5:14:14 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Funny, I didn’t hear that when Al Franken was elected!!


14 posted on 05/09/2012 5:23:16 PM PDT by bubman
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15 posted on 05/09/2012 5:27:11 PM PDT by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Chode
We have two large coalition parties. Factions representing every facet of American life make up the parties.

In between there's an empty plain of "independents' ~ who don't participate, and "moderates" who don't exist in the numbers some believe, and otherwise it's just a fringe of political thought ~ more like a desert than something tangible.

Given the math of winning in this country each large party pretty much divides up the voters ~ which makes, on the average, all races tight ~ 50/50 almost.

That gives small groups of highly motivated partisans the opportunity to switch the vote to either large coalition party.

The way you win an election is to hold your base (even if they don't like you), and try to peel off a faction from the other large party sufficient to get 50%+1 vote.

This year we have a special situation ~ the current ruling party is so disliked that they will probably lose more seats than in their history since the Civil War. Their candidate will receive far fewer votes this time than last time, and if West Virginia is a bellweather to this, Obama should drop nearly 20%, since this isn't getting better.

The Republican candidate, good old what's his name, is not terribly popular with the Republican base ~ he could easily come in 20% under normal vote total and the professionals (we call them Establishment-e) would not detect that happening since they have their gaze FIXED on the relative difference between the two coalition party nominees.

I doubt the Establishment-e prognosticators can think about the election dynamics this year sufficiently to recognize the disaster that may befall chunks of the Republican party in this election. The Democrat eqivalent know what's coming but they try to avoid talking about it ~ which is why they want to talk about gay sex, gay marriage, sex change operations, condoms for college girls, and other items of that sort.

A rational person might ask why we end up with both major parties popping up with candidates who are in so much electoral trouble that no one knows if either can win?

An answer would take more time than I care to take and some here would call it "whining", but the fact is we have a RACE TO THE BOTTOM and the pros are not able to call it since this is literally unprecedented.

So, what to do? Where can our small faction within a faction put its limited resources to make sure WE get what we want in the end, and we also get rid of Obama.

First, the only way Romney can get our support is he has to crawl on broken glass and go to Jim Robinson and apologize for being pro-gay and engaging in actions that make abortion easier to get and for having run off to Massachusetts. Second, he needs to commit to getting Jim an appointment to the Cabinet, or maybe a subcabinet position.

Third, I get a job too ~ as do a number of others here.

America can only prosper from the insertion of real Conservatives in the government's top echelon ~

Anything short of that and I don't think we can help him.

16 posted on 05/09/2012 5:30:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Donate to Mourdock:

http://www.electmourdock.org/donate.aspx


17 posted on 05/09/2012 5:34:33 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is only good news.

Less moderates to hold conservatives hostage by being the lone one or two votes the rest have to cajole and bribe or dictate watered down bills.


18 posted on 05/09/2012 5:35:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Richard Mourdock is another signpost that we’re taking back America from squishy RINOs and Nazi democrats. Prepare for it, poodleboys. We’re coming over the hill loaded for bear, and we’re not smiling.


19 posted on 05/09/2012 5:49:33 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The election of Obama showed the disappearance of the middle; people were given a choice between a comatose man devoid of ideas and a radical Bolshevik (who only got through the primaries with the aid of the media working 100% for him).


20 posted on 05/09/2012 6:19:43 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: muawiyah; Jim Robinson

Good thoughts there, muawiyah. But I would guess that broken glass isn’t enough for Jim.
How ‘bout Mittens entirely fund Free Republic from his campaign fund, become a Christian and let his hair go gray for starters.
Also he needs to publicly apologize to Newt and Santorum.

And I don’t like turkey subs with mustard, Gov. Next time we want mayo.


21 posted on 05/09/2012 6:26:42 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (One Nation Under God..."There I said it" ... Great One...)
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To: Brilliant

To write Richard a nice note of congrats.

PO Box 1583
Indianapolis, Indiana 46206

Or call his office like I did today. The campaign worker said he really appreciated it. 317 248-2015


22 posted on 05/09/2012 6:32:10 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (One Nation Under God..."There I said it" ... Great One...)
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To: Mountain Mary; Jim Robinson
Buzz Cut ~ that post WWII "Winning Warrior" look that was so popular for so long ~ plus my idea of what broken glass consists of may be different than what you think it is but I like that one of him converting to Christianity.

Look, long time ago Jim and I were part of a discussion on FR about diabetes and how it probably affected then nominee Sotomayor. Not sure who brought up brittle bones but that was in there.

The newsies picked up on that ~ I don't think they ever understood the source ~ this is common with people on very long term insulin injections, so a lot of them were commenting about it like people who would bring up such a thing must be evil or something.

Next thing you know she was walking across the concourse at I think Reagan National and BROKE HER FOOT.

The newsies dropped their carping ~ but that proved to me THEY WATCH US ~ and WE HAVE INFLUENCE OF WHICH A GENERALLY UNAWARE ~ can you imagine us in charge of critical federal agencies.

Now I"m not talking about carrying the football with the nuclear missile command codes ~ something a bit easier to do ~ that involves sitting in chairs and telling other folks to make phone calls ~ and that's at the UNDERSECRETARY level. A cabinet position would probably kill me ~ at least turn me blind watching all those staff initiated presentations 24/7, and I can only imagine Jim rolling around the Pentagon or Department of Agriculture ~ but there are important agencies with much less drama and much more comfortable quarters. Some of them are located around the country ~ but those will be Assistant To The Undersecretary of XYZ or Director of XYZ. These are not Schedule C jobs.

They will watch us there as closely as they watch us at FR.

If Romney gives us ironclad guarantees maybe we could maneuver this great beast of talk such that it can tip a lever there or push one here, and give one of these two losers a win ~

23 posted on 05/09/2012 6:45:49 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Bipartisanship, Mourdock added, means Democrats voting for Republican initiatives.

I’m liking this guy already.


24 posted on 05/09/2012 6:49:02 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The GOP-E and rinos are overly eager to walk across the aisle with a smile, shake hands and add 10% to the tyranny proposed by the Democrats. That is why there is a TEA PARTY. We are thoroughly sick and tired of our rights being compromised away and an ever deeper hole when it comes to debt.


25 posted on 05/09/2012 7:45:06 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: muawiyah

I want the position of EPA executioner.


26 posted on 05/09/2012 7:50:48 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: Mountain Mary

There is no way in hell that I will support an abortionist/socialist for president.


27 posted on 05/09/2012 7:58:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Nifster

I just hope and pray that True Americans are finally beginning to wake up from their slumber and send a clear message to Washington. Where all this compromising has gotten us can be clearly seen. We are only one election away from a fully implemented dictatorship.


28 posted on 05/09/2012 11:29:39 PM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: Jim Robinson

I know that. I should have put an /s after my comments.


29 posted on 05/10/2012 5:28:52 AM PDT by Mountain Mary (One Nation Under God..."There I said it" ... Great One...)
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To: saintgermaine

agreed


30 posted on 05/10/2012 5:53:44 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Republicans just nonimated the most milquetoast moderate RINO for President that they could find. I guess the Republicans will just have to run a democrat next time.


31 posted on 05/10/2012 5:55:55 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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