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The Last Boomer?
Townhall.com ^ | May 9, 2012 | Michael Medved

Posted on 05/09/2012 5:35:32 AM PDT by Kaslin

If Mitt Romney succeeds in his quest for the presidency, the media will focus on his status as the first Mormon in the White House. But it’s even more significant that he’d represent the last of another controversial cohort: the final Baby Boomer to occupy the Oval Office, or even to top the ticket of a major political party.

After more than twenty years of dominating the national political scene, the narcissistic children of the ‘60s finally prepare to amble toward retirement, leaving the nation’s highest office to leaders from less polarized and self-righteous generations. Ironically, the Boomers’ last hurrah in the presidential arena will almost certainly come from a starchy straight arrow utterly untouched by weed or Woodstock, rock ‘n roll or rebellion, or other celebrated themes of his turbulent counterparts.

Of course, Hillary Clinton could confound Mitt’s status as the Last of the Boomers by breaking her pledge to eschew electoral politics and making a presidential race of her own in 2016 or thereafter. Even if she delayed her candidacy till 2020, she’d be only 73 at the time of the election – just a year older than John McCain in 2008, and four years younger than Ron Paul this year. Nevertheless, friends of the Secretary of State believe she’s serious in her determination to pursue other paths of public service and personal fulfillment.

There’s also the possibility that Jeb Bush, the former Governor of Florida, could return to the political lists to pursue the presidency and to redeem his family’s honor, but his age and personal history make his identification with the ‘60s generation somewhat questionable. While sociologists Neil Howe and William Strauss identify Baby Boomers as those born between 1943 and 1960, a younger member of that group like Jeb (born in 1953) would have missed out on most of the defining experiences of the era. For instance, President Nixon announced an end to the Vietnam draft before Jeb even graduated from prep school in 1971 – and when Barack Obama, by the way, was only ten.

The high school Class of ’65 – the graduating class of Mitt Romney, Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, Dan Quayle, and me – comprised the very heart of the Baby Boom generation. Bill Clinton and George W. Bush may have both graduated in 1964, but it was in January 1965 that Time magazine ran a famous cover story on “TODAY’S TEENAGERS” with the hopeful subtitle “On the Fringe of a Golden Era.”

That article focused on my own senior class at Palisades High School in Los Angeles, and more than a decade later provided the basis for my bestselling book (and later an NBC TV series), What Really Happened to the Class of ’65? The distinguishing characteristic of our moment in history involved sudden, whiplash change that afflicted the country just as we made the always fraught transition from high school to college. Marijuana and psychedelic drugs remained extremely rare (if not altogether unknown) during our high school years, but became thoroughly ubiquitous shortly after we arrived at university. The Vietnam War enjoyed overwhelming, nearly unanimous public support when we got high school diplomas in June 1965, but within two years the rising draft calls made the conflict massively unpopular on university campuses. The Watts riots paralyzed Southern California within weeks of our high school graduation, followed by a seemingly endless series of other urban explosions over the next five years, with campus unrest and even bloody confrontations disrupting the nation’s most prestigious institutions of higher education.

Nevertheless, some prophets of the New Age saw all the turmoil as both hopeful and helpful. In 1970, a professor I knew casually at Yale wrote a massive bestseller called The Greening of America, proclaiming “a great change” among “the bright, sensitive children of the affluent middle class.” Specifically, Charles Reich located that change in “the college class of 1969, which entered as freshmen in the fall of 1965” – in other words Romney’s class, and mine. “There is a revolution coming,” Professor Reich solemnly proclaimed. “It will originate with the individual and with culture and it will change the political structure only as its final act… At the heart of everything is what we shall call a change of consciousness. This means a ‘new head’ – a new way of living – a new man.” A year earlier, my law school classmate Hillary Rodham had given a commencement speech to her class at Wellesley (prominently featured in LIFE magazine) in which she similarly referred to our generational quest for “a more immediate, ecstatic and penetrating mode of living.”

No wonder Barack Obama managed to beat her in 2008 by appealing in part to the rising national exhaustion over relentless navel gazing and incurable self-importance on the part of the Boomer generation. Because he counted as some 14 years younger than a typical member of the Class of ’65, and because he spent a significant portion of his childhood abroad, Senator Obama seemed untainted by the ancient and increasingly irrelevant divisions between hippies and straights, SDS’ers and frat boys, New Politics activists who fretted over our “sick society” and reflexive love-it-or-leave-it patriots. In his second book, The Audacity of Hope, the future president expressed his weariness with the endless confrontations between counter cultural and traditional values. Senator Obama wrote: “In the back and forth between Clinton and Gingrich, and in the elections of 2000 and 2004, I sometimes felt as if I were watching the psychodrama of the baby boom generation – a tale rooted in old grudges and revenge plots hatched on a handful of college campuses long ago – played out on the national stage.”

He promised to transcend such pointless, paralyzing cultural battles and to launch a new era of post-partisan cooperation that would unite all elements of society across ideological and even racial lines. Instead, most Americans now view the Republic as more deeply, destructively divided than ever before. The greatest disappointments and disasters of the Obama presidency all stem from his undeniable failure to deliver his promise to pursue peace.

And what about Romney?

How could The Last Boomer possibly lead the nation beyond the vicious fights over values that actually began during his most formative years and, in one way or another, shaped nearly all his generational counterparts?

Virtually all of the leading liberal lights to emerge from the ‘60s generation embraced the attitudes of campus rebels and the anti-war movement of the Vietnam era, including Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry, Howard Dean and countless others. Their conservative opponents (Dan Quayle, George W. Bush, Newt Gingrich, George Pataki, John Boehner) stoutly rejected the gauzy ideals of the youth culture and embraced the values of earlier generations, but in most cases only did so after some experimentation with 1960’s approaches to lifestyle and personal values. Newt Gingrich (of all people) freely confessed to his youthful enthusiasm for marijuana, and George W. Bush famously and eloquently declared that “when I was young and stupid I was young and stupid.”

Romney, on the other hand, never so much rejected the ‘60s as he remained altogether isolated from that era’s ferment and torment. He never reacted negatively to the high profile fights over sex, drugs, and foreign policy that characterized the country during his university years because, for the most part, he never experienced them. He spent his freshman year (September 1965 to June 1966) at Stanford but disliked the increasingly politicized campus atmosphere and interrupted his college career to pursue his traditional Mormon obligation as a young missionary in France. Debates over the draft never seemed to concern him because he received a “ministerial deferment” like most Mormon missionaries and married his wife Ann (who he’d pursued since high school) in March 1969, within weeks of his return to the United States. Their son Tagg arrived the next year, with Mitt and Ann living in a basement apartment and pursuing their undergraduate degrees at Brigham Young University in Provo, Utah – a world away from the activism that affronted most students of their era in elite campuses like Yale, Harvard, Berkeley and the University of Wisconsin.

When the Romneys moved to Harvard for Mitt’s simultaneous MBA and law school program they were raising two little boys (with three more to come) and already leading a deeply conservative family life that allowed little connection with the fervent activism that continued to characterize the campus. Almost alone of famous Boomers, Mitt Romney never let his hair, sideburns, beard or moustache grow out in some outrageously dated and embarrassing manner. In photographs from the period he remains disconcertingly recognizable – the same self-possessed, clean cut, immaculately groomed figure he presents today, despite his occasional campaign trail efforts to make himself seem more earthy with his incongruous choice of jeans.

While Romney’s isolation from the trends that defined most others in that famous Class of ’65 might make him a dubious choice as the final presidential candidate from his generation, his distinctive experience could provide special appeal to the bulk of his fellow Boomers. Many (if not most) among the huge population bulge associated with that age group actually missed the cultural revolution known as “the ‘60s”: they fought in the Vietnam War rather than protesting it, they got jobs rather than getting high, they saw themselves as flag-wavers more than freaks. In addition, tens of millions of Boomers who may have taken a more unconventional approach back in the day have come to feel more ashamed than nostalgic about their youthful indulgence.

If Mitt Romney can unite all those who consistently shunned the counterculture with all those who once flirted with its values but now look back on those callow notions with disdain, he could easily win a majority of his fellow Boomers and, with them, the election. Romney can never pretend that he was once “young and stupid” like George W. Bush, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing. We rightly respect him because he was never stupid. But it may be harder to forgive the fact that he was never young.


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1 posted on 05/09/2012 5:35:33 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

What’s interesting to me is that had McCain been elected he’d’ve been the only person elected to the presidency who was born in the 1930s.

Now I suppose that will never happen, unless Ron Paul pulls some kind of rabbit out of a hat.


2 posted on 05/09/2012 5:41:27 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Kaslin

No more Bushes, no more Clintons!


3 posted on 05/09/2012 5:42:14 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Kaslin

No more Bushes, no more Clintons!


4 posted on 05/09/2012 5:42:37 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: basil

There! I said it again! (sorry for the double post....)


5 posted on 05/09/2012 5:43:55 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Kaslin
From the Onion

Long Awaited Baby Boomer Die-Off Begins

6 posted on 05/09/2012 5:45:49 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Kaslin

I love the conservative baby boomers but the only issue I have with them is why didn’t they take lefty hippies like Bill Clinton behind the dorms, in the middle of the night, and kick the living sh!t out of them??

Several good ass kicking of these hippies back in the 60’s might have saved this nation a lot of heartache.


7 posted on 05/09/2012 5:48:48 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Well this younger baby boomer female will be around for a while.


8 posted on 05/09/2012 5:53:49 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

From this younger baby boomer, the problem with your question is that, a number of the older ones who are now conservative WERE part of the hippie generation, until they decided to WAKE UP and smell the coffee.


9 posted on 05/09/2012 5:56:01 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

what makes you think we didn’t? the reason some of these yokels got into politics was simply to get ‘even’


10 posted on 05/09/2012 5:56:37 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Last night’s lost of Richard Lugar is sending a message that conservative boomers will be heard.


11 posted on 05/09/2012 6:02:54 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Kaslin

Some of us who lived through those turbulent 60’s realized that Professor Reich’s “new head” was really the same old Biblical head, full of sin, deception and greed. Some never figured it out. Today, they are old Democrats and their children.


12 posted on 05/09/2012 6:04:36 AM PDT by NotTallTex
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To: NotTallTex

With yesterday’s recent wins, the much more conservative factions is starting to show up.


13 posted on 05/09/2012 6:10:25 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Kaslin

The title had me thinking of missile subs. Will we have any left in four years?


14 posted on 05/09/2012 6:12:01 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: jocon307
What’s interesting to me is that had McCain been elected he’d’ve been the only person elected to the presidency who was born in the 1930s.

"Forgotten Generation" indeed.

15 posted on 05/09/2012 6:25:16 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Kaslin
After more than twenty years of dominating the national political scene, the narcissistic children of the ‘60s finally prepare to amble toward retirement, leaving the nation’s highest office to leaders from less polarized and self-righteous generations.

Gee, NOTHING biased or prejuducial in THIS statement!



/sarc

16 posted on 05/09/2012 6:31:47 AM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: NotTallTex
Some of us who lived through those turbulent 60’s realized that Professor Reich’s “new head” was really the same old Biblical head, full of sin, deception and greed.

I think he called it "Consciousness III". IIRC, his "Consciousness I" was the spirit of the pioneers (and 1776), "Consciousness II" was the "other-directed American" of David Riesman, et al., and "Consciousness III" was what turned out to be the omphaloskeptical Me generation of the Sixties.

17 posted on 05/09/2012 7:00:39 AM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: Biggirl
WERE part of the hippie generation,

That's right it was the hippie generation, peace and love, rock and roll that broke off from the "radical" leftists that took over the movement. The Ayers, Clinton, Black Panther part of the 60's that went violent on the hippie movement. Must have been the same people that spiked the LSD with stricknine poison.

My oldest brother graduated from high school in 1965 so he was part of this class also. He dropped out of college after the first year and got so caught up in all of this, joined a commune and did not speak to my parents for 10 years. He was young and stupid and a born rebel, but came around eventually, sustained a head injury in an assualt, and lived on assistance till he died at the very young age of 60. Today he would have been 64, miss him so much.

18 posted on 05/09/2012 7:02:58 AM PDT by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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To: Kaslin

Obama is two years younger than I.

His ilk in our high school and college classes would have been the target of ridicule. Even though we were at the tail end of the Boomers (born in 1960) a vast majority of us were fed up with the hippie dippy crap of our older siblings.

We could see that Carter was an idiot, and we helped put Reagan in office. We got hit by the gas lines when we were first driving—and that consumed probably a larger percent of our disposable income than any other cohort.

I had to work for Baby boomers and I found the Gen X’ers much easier to deal with. They were less manipulative in their workplace politics, and they were more adaptable than boomers. As an executive it was a nightmare getting Boomers to change any policy or practice. What a bunch of whiners.

I am happy to be done with my generational brothers and sisters.

But, Obama is a throwback to the heavy duty boomers. For us “tail enders” he would have found himself with his underwear pulled up over his shoulders.


19 posted on 05/09/2012 7:25:45 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: jocon307
What’s interesting to me is that had McCain been elected he’d’ve been the only person elected to the presidency who was born in the 1930s.

Now I suppose that will never happen, unless Ron Paul pulls some kind of rabbit out of a hat.


They're part of the "Silent Generation," those born between 1925 to 1945, give or take. The closest to the Presidency they've gotten were VP's CHeney (b.1941) and Biden (b. 1942). That's my parents generation too, Dad born in 1937 and Mom in 1938.
20 posted on 05/09/2012 7:28:02 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Biggirl
and some are still following the Grateful Dead, unaware that jerry has died.
21 posted on 05/09/2012 7:28:10 AM PDT by stylin19a (Obama - The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance)
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To: Kaslin
Year of birth:

Kerry- 1943
Gingrich- 1943
Clinton- 1946
GW Bush- 1946
Romney- 1947
Santorum- 1958
Obama- 1961
Rubio- 1971
GP Bush- 1976

22 posted on 05/09/2012 7:34:14 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Kaslin

‘46-’64 not 43-60


23 posted on 05/09/2012 7:43:49 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: Biggirl

Yeeeeupppp...you got that right BigG!
I fought the hippies in the sixties and not going to quit now!


24 posted on 05/09/2012 7:50:22 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: DustyMoment

Medved is sometimes a pinhead, but this example tops any I’ve seen yet.


25 posted on 05/09/2012 7:50:41 AM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Having just read your comments, I feel I am much less alone, born in 1959.


26 posted on 05/09/2012 8:03:29 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

I sure hope so.
The baby boomers are the ingratitude generation. Their parents fought in a horrible war that killed millions to defeat fascism, and after they were done with that hell they wanted to go home start a family, work a good job and own a house. And of course their kids (the precious baby boomers) criticized them for that.


27 posted on 05/09/2012 8:05:51 AM PDT by HarryCrowel
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To: Vermont Lt

To tell you the truth, I feel closer to the Gen X folks, who are not into perpetual radical left stuff.


28 posted on 05/09/2012 8:07:09 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Was Romney one of those born 9 months after Roswell?


29 posted on 05/09/2012 8:16:47 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: Biggirl

I was thrilled when this news hit. This is what we need to be directing our energies towards.


30 posted on 05/09/2012 8:25:50 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Kaslin

I’m a boomer (born in ‘55) and although I recall all the turbulence in the 60’s and early 70’s, I didn’t relate to it. Heck, 4 days after HS graduation, I took my Oath of Enlistment for the USAF. I did find out that many of my peers, especially in the college towns (Champaign, IL, Palo Alto, CA) didn’t like GIs and we stuck out because of our military haircuts during an era when long hair and beards were sported by college aged guys. Sometimes it was the shunning and other times it was downright hostility we were greeted with when going into town. That was total BS!


31 posted on 05/09/2012 8:35:41 AM PDT by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com/forums)
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To: mountainlion
"born 9 months after Roswell?"

Are you implying that Romny has the mannerisms of a Conehead?

32 posted on 05/09/2012 8:55:04 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
“born 9 months after Roswell?”

Hillary as well as about a dozen people were born 9 months after roswell which I thought was funny.

33 posted on 05/09/2012 9:28:50 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: Kaslin

The actual definition of boomer is 1946 to 1964, according to all the major measures, feds, census bureau, etc.

Medved is an old hard core left wing propagandist, he was very radical and very involved, who moved right on some issues, all the way to where his right wing heros are candidates like John McCain and Mitt Romney.


34 posted on 05/09/2012 9:59:35 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: HarryCrowel

About nine and a half million boomers were veterans themselves, the difference is that they were overwhelmingly volunteers during the Vietnam War while the generation(s) who fought WWII were overwhelmingly draftees.

The Democrats became much weaker when the boomers started coming of age during the Reagan years, than they had been during their hay days of 1935 to 1975.

Look at the trajectory of Second Amendment rights for example, the boomers have almost totally rolled back the Democrat successes of the previous generations, even the 1965 Immigration Act is under threat now that the boomers are of government leadership age.


35 posted on 05/09/2012 10:10:30 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Kaslin

>>>In addition, tens of millions of Boomers who may have taken a more unconventional approach back in the day have come to feel more ashamed than nostalgic about their youthful indulgence.<<<

Ain’t this the truth... for me, at least. In the words of Bluto Blutarsky: “Seven years of college down the drain.” The only really positive impact of that period of my life is that it taught me that the values my parents and grandparents wanted me to follow were actually correct. *sigh*


36 posted on 05/09/2012 10:47:09 AM PDT by redpoll
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To: Kaslin

Who you calling narcissistic? I’m a baby boomer and I’m as far from narcissistic as a person could be. Speak for yourself!


37 posted on 05/09/2012 11:16:40 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: Nowhere Man

If you want to see “silent generation” (born 1925 to 1945)leadership, then start running the birth dates of the famous Hippies, bands, musicians, activists, etc, of the 1960s and early 1970s, when boomers Sarah Palin and Obama, were little kids.


38 posted on 05/09/2012 11:32:28 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Nowhere Man

And that’s barely even close at all. They were/are both Veeps and not even born in the 30s.

It’s weird, isn’t it? 10 years of births and yet not one of those millions (tens of millions?) of people ever lead this country.

I wonder if there are other instances of that earlier in our history.

My parents were older than yours, born in 1926, but they didn’t have children until the late 50s, rather old for that time.


39 posted on 05/09/2012 4:45:15 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: jimt
For a social commentator, Medved makes an adequate movie reviewer.
40 posted on 05/09/2012 6:45:46 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Vermont Lt
But, Obama is a throwback to the heavy duty boomers. For us “tail enders” he would have found himself with his underwear pulled up over his shoulders.

Gee, I LOVE hasty generalizations. They're usually wrong!!

I'm an early boomer and have been conservative all my life. How does that fit into your "tarring with a broad brush"??

The fact is that every large group is comprised of individuals. Some fit your perceptions, others don't. I guess you haven't figured that part out with all your intellectual elitist snobbishness. We're all different and hasty generalizations just make you look ill-informed.

41 posted on 05/10/2012 1:40:09 PM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: HarryCrowel
And of course their kids (the precious baby boomers) criticized them for that.

Please give specific examples. A LOT of the accusations surrounding boomers actually belong elsewhere, so, I'd like to see what you are talking about.

42 posted on 05/10/2012 1:42:46 PM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: DustyMoment

Hey, old guy....take your Geritol. Calm down.

Of course I know that there were conservative members of the baby boomers. But your whining proves my point.

You know EXACTLY what I am talking about. Look at your peers and tell me they are an easy group to deal with.

You obviously are the exception. Except for the whiney part.


43 posted on 05/10/2012 2:42:35 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Ok, what whining?

You keep going after hasty generalizations and don’t give specifics.

As for your arrogance, just remember that your day is coming.

And YOU will be the “whiney old guy”!

Asd for Geritol, I don’t take it. I have type II diabetes from Agent Orange exposure in Vietnam and can’t take a lot of crap like that. A Lt. might know something about warfare.


44 posted on 05/10/2012 3:37:56 PM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: DustyMoment

The whining about my post. You are still doing it.

Thanks for your service.

Really, I am kidding you. You are not an old guy. But you have to admit that some of your hippie cohorts were a little off the reservation.

Now go get some rest.

(just kidding, again.)


45 posted on 05/10/2012 6:09:05 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: Vermont Lt

I had no hippie cohorts. The hippie movement was overblown and comprised of a minority of boomers.

However, the press loved them more than the rest of the boomer class.

Thus, the enduring press, urban myth and adulation for a movement that was the forerunner of today’s OWS “heroes”.


46 posted on 05/10/2012 9:40:15 PM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: DustyMoment

Ok you win. The Boomers are the most wonderful generation ever.

Evidently you have not done much research on demographics. The science of demographics is, by definition, generalization of groups of similar folks.

Go do some reading, and we can have a mature discussion about “generations.”


47 posted on 05/11/2012 1:13:37 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: Biggirl

Well I was born in 62 and I have to say we had the best music, concerts, Camaro’s and Reagan was the first President I voted for.....Life was really good back then......


48 posted on 05/11/2012 1:19:37 PM PDT by geege
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To: jocon307
And that’s barely even close at all. They were/are both Veeps and not even born in the 30s.

It’s weird, isn’t it? 10 years of births and yet not one of those millions (tens of millions?) of people ever lead this country.

I wonder if there are other instances of that earlier in our history.

My parents were older than yours, born in 1926, but they didn’t have children until the late 50s, rather old for that time.


I know, that is something, they barely have a toehold on the leadership at all. It seems like in the Presidency, we went directly from the World War II generation to the Baby Boomers.
49 posted on 05/11/2012 7:25:39 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: ansel12
If you want to see “silent generation” (born 1925 to 1945)leadership, then start running the birth dates of the famous Hippies, bands, musicians, activists, etc, of the 1960s and early 1970s, when boomers Sarah Palin and Obama, were little kids.

You have a point, IIRC, Abbie Hoffman was born in 1936, Jane Fonda in 1937,Gloria Steinem in 1934, Charlie Manson in 1934, William Ayers in 1944 (very tail end I know), BErnadine Dohrn in 1942.
50 posted on 05/11/2012 7:34:36 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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