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Post Poll: Obama leads Romney as campaigns converge on Virginia
The Washington post ^ | May 3, 2012 | Ben Pershing and Jon Cohen

Posted on 05/03/2012 3:56:14 PM PDT by muawiyah

Obama is ahead of Romney, the presumed Republican nominee, 51 percent to 44 percent among registered voters. And Romney does no better against Obama than he did a year ago, despite his emergence as the GOP standard-bearer.

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KEYWORDS: cheaters; prosper; romney; virginia
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I'd like to say "cheaters never prosper" but guys, this was a given. With the total anihilation of the Virginia Presidential primary, the Mittbots lost their boy the vote ~ ain't no way that dude can win here.

I hope he had strong language for his lackey, Goobernor McDonnell ~ but he probably didn't.

Next time the money guys want to run a Democrat go run him in the Democrat party. That's where that stuff is supposed to go on. Just keep him out of Virginia.

1 posted on 05/03/2012 3:56:28 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Leave it to the GOP-e to pick a sure loser. McCain II.


2 posted on 05/03/2012 3:59:21 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude
Va. has become a suburb of DC.
3 posted on 05/03/2012 4:02:57 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: muawiyah

If Virginia goes Obama then they get what they deserve.


4 posted on 05/03/2012 4:02:57 PM PDT by Internet Walnut
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To: muawiyah

I wouldn’t fall for a phony poll:

It overpolls democrats, is not a poll of registered voters, 34 percent in this poll are not registered to vote, and the results are far outside it’s margin of error.

Garbage in- garbage out = WP Headline Story.


5 posted on 05/03/2012 4:03:06 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: fwdude

Part of the plan.


6 posted on 05/03/2012 4:10:08 PM PDT by Internet Walnut
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To: D-fendr
No surprise, oversampling of registered Dems, not likely voters. It's way closer than this poll indicates.
7 posted on 05/03/2012 4:11:24 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: muawiyah

This poll is total BS. Practically no one believes, except gullible Obamabots.


8 posted on 05/03/2012 4:12:08 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: muawiyah
And Romney does no better against Obama than he did a year ago

Ah yes. The presidential election year of 2011. I remember it well.

9 posted on 05/03/2012 4:13:52 PM PDT by relictele (We are officially OUT of other people's money!)
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To: fwdude

Among likely voters the story is different...

Rasmussen Virginia: Romney 45%, Obama 44%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/virginia/election_2012_virginia_president


10 posted on 05/03/2012 4:13:52 PM PDT by bibo_ergo_sum
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To: D-fendr

Well said!


11 posted on 05/03/2012 4:15:24 PM PDT by GilGil
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To: WashingtonSource
Sure, it's total BS, but what did Romney expect to do when he ran in a regular election in Virginia?. Did he perhaps imagine the 19% of the state vote that is of African-American heritage would dance in the streets upon his arrival?

How did he imagine he could KEEP the party base when he allowed his flunky to screw up the Republican primary with last minute rules changes?

After all that effort, and selling out, and skulduggery and criminal conspiracy, what does Romney have to look at? That he's right where he was last year at this time.

I have a feeling this poll shows a disastrous trend for Herr Romney and his Mittbots.

No Vice Presidency for you McDonnell!

12 posted on 05/03/2012 4:21:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: CaptainK; muawiyah

Yes, good point that I failed to list: in addition to the high % of not registered, it is not a sample of ‘likely’ voters - a basic requirement these days for some semblance of credibility.

thanks.


13 posted on 05/03/2012 4:21:16 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Internet Walnut
If Virginia goes Obama then they get what they deserve.

This is why these Virgil Goode fools are making me nervous. a mere 5% for Goode in his home state of Virginia could be just enough to keep those 13 electoral votes in Obama's column. Lose Virginia and Romney's road to 270 just got a helluva lot steeper.

14 posted on 05/03/2012 4:23:44 PM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: boomop1
Not really ~ we have a Republican Governor, Republican Lt. Governor, Republican AG, Republican House in the legislature, and a Republican Senate in the legislature (except for financial issues then it's tied). We even have a MAJORITY REPUBLICAN US HOUSE Delegation ~

So, a suburb of DC?

Get real. Your boy Romney wants to give all that away to the Democrats and it looks like it's working. Only way he can recover in this disaster is to drop out of the race and give the blessing to the Conservative majority to pick a winning candidate.

15 posted on 05/03/2012 4:24:31 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: D-fendr

All polls overpol Democrats, but in Virginia we have no party registration. You can tell the pollster anything you want and no one is the wiser.


16 posted on 05/03/2012 4:26:05 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Drew68

That would then be a good lesson learned for the GOP and this year’s foolish primary voters. Nominate a conservative or lose elections due to third party siphoning of votes. There is no quicker route to change the politics of the GOP then for them to see moderate candidates lose elections. Why would they or the primary voters ever stop picking moderate candidates if they win elections?


17 posted on 05/03/2012 4:28:35 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: muawiyah
Get real. Your boy Romney wants to give all that away to the Democrats and it looks like it's working. Only way he can recover in this disaster is to drop out of the race and give the blessing to the Conservative majority to pick a winning candidate.

If Romney was losing every state by double digits in the polls, you're absolutely right we could see a change in candidates. Or at the very least a staunchly conservative vice president. Nothing could help conservatives more than everyone telling the pollsters they're not going to vote for Romney.

18 posted on 05/03/2012 4:31:37 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: D-fendr

Does anyone actually read the internals of the poll before they post them? This thing is pure MSM Obummer spin.


19 posted on 05/03/2012 4:32:12 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: muawiyah

The demoralizing begins.


20 posted on 05/03/2012 4:34:43 PM PDT by Thorliveshere
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To: Drew68; Internet Walnut
Given that Virginia is tied at 50/50 (for all practical purposes) Goode's 5% of the total vote will be obtained by snatching it from the Republican 50%, and that is worth 10% of the Republican voters who can be marshaled to show up at the polling booths.

Romney, last March, when he thought he had a lock on Virginia's voters ~looking at the primary results where he was the only major candidate (of 2) that means the probable result is 5% Goode, 45% Rombots and 50% Obamabots.

That, my detractors, is a total BLOWOUT by Obama ~ a LANDSLIDE in Virginia terms.

To win Romney has to pick up 2.5% from Obama's Democrat base to to get up to 47.5% against Obama at 47.5%.

Note, though, getting that 2.4% requires getting a full 5% of the total Democrat vote to switch to him, with none of it being the locked in black vote. It's all gotta' come out of White LIberals ~ and I really don't see that happening.

This is why you must come to the election with clean hands.

21 posted on 05/03/2012 4:37:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Romney does no better against Obama than he did a year ago, despite his emergence as the GOP standard-bearer.
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Whoever thought it was going to make any difference ???


22 posted on 05/03/2012 4:40:16 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Look, get serious, it's a Washington Post Poll ~ we've all learned to look at them from the view point of the audience they are aimed at ~ Leftwingtards in the Washington DC area.

They want to see something that says it's OK to not worry ~ that Romney really did vile things to the pooch.

This time, of course, it's all true.

The Post can look around at the other polls that show something different in Virginia but that doesn't matter. What they are reporting on is of vital importance ~ a trendline ~ showing NO CHANGE and that's what makes the libs happy.

BTW, they only tell the libs that when it's true.

If their poll showed something different they probably wouldn't report it at all.

23 posted on 05/03/2012 4:43:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
This is a press release from Osama Obama Headquarters.It doesn't take much imagination to picture the Composts’s editorial endorsing The One in late October.
24 posted on 05/03/2012 4:46:25 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: muawiyah

Another Wa Po poll that overpolls Democrats by 25% probably? Would love to see the internals of this piece of rot gut. As usual, they probably over-polled Dems by a mile. And the Wa Po poll is never even in the top 10 most accurate polls. Bore me more Wa Po.


25 posted on 05/03/2012 4:47:23 PM PDT by MissesBush (The Fourth Estate has Become a Fifth Column)
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To: Tennessee Nana
We have a null set here. Think about it ~ Romney emerges as the standard bearer and the opposition pollster says 'still no change' ~ and he's talking about a mishmash of your people and his people.

Why no change? My theory, and it's just a theory, like gravity, fire ~ that stuff ~ is that Romney is not popular in Virginia. Nobody likes the guy.

People who claim electoral college votes for Romney showing up in Virginia just don't understand.

26 posted on 05/03/2012 4:48:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
It's got to be a fake.

Virginia knows the stark differences between 0bama and Romney and with the true (might I say severe) conservative nature of Romney there is no way that he is going to lose to a a liberal hack like 0bama in Virginia in this oh so important election cycle with the direction our nation is going presently.

This election is now down to a choice between a conservative republican and a socialist hack.

27 posted on 05/03/2012 4:48:28 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: muawiyah

The only thing providing any excitement for the Republican side has been the primaries. Once the better candidates and the horse race fades into the background, the flaccid bore that is Romney is just going to sink further in the polls. Who in the world thinks he’s the guy to carry an effective message against Obama throughout the election season? Would you ever sit Romney in front of a microphone for 3 hours to do a radio show explaining why he’s a better choice than Obama? Any other candidate in the primary could have been trusted with that job easily, but certainly not Romney. The over-consulted, over-coached, poll-driven contortions his message is going to be twisted into by the time November rolls around are going to make him a national laughing stock.


28 posted on 05/03/2012 4:49:59 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: muawiyah
He isn't my boy but you people are Obama’s people especially northern Va.
29 posted on 05/03/2012 4:51:09 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: MissesBush
The difference between this Wapo poll is it's local and you guys usually don't look at them then ~ you should, but you don't, expressing amazement that the Republicans took over the legislature, and that we have a majority Republican Congressional delegation.

Conservatives did that and so far Romney has not shown them any reason why they need to "share" with him.

30 posted on 05/03/2012 4:51:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: fwdude
Leave it to the GOP-e to pick a sure loser. McCain II.

Romney was certainly not my favorite philosophically (it was Gingrich), but the changing demographics, vote fraud, 97% Dem black vote,union vote, disadvantage among women, and entitlement mentality in this country IMO would make it just as hard for any current conservative to be elected as it will be for Romney.

31 posted on 05/03/2012 4:51:46 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: boomop1
Hmm ~ little you know about the Washington DC metropolitan area.

Your boy is a loser. Go tell him it's showing up in Virginia.

32 posted on 05/03/2012 4:52:48 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Tennessee went for Santorum in the primary..

and Huckabee in 2008

Romney will probably have a job to win here..

My county for instance is 80% Conservative-Republican


33 posted on 05/03/2012 4:52:51 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: EGPWS
This election is now down to a choice between a conservative republican and a socialist hack.

Did you forget your sarcasm tag? If not, you are delusional and should seek psychiatric help at once.

34 posted on 05/03/2012 4:54:20 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: luvbach1

Romney’s going to crush Bambi. As much as I don’t like the guy, he will win. Like 40 states. I live in a big blue state and I don’t know one person who doesn’t hate Bambi.


35 posted on 05/03/2012 4:56:35 PM PDT by huckfillary (qual tyo ta)
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To: EGPWS

“This election is now down to a choice between a conservative republican and a socialist hack.”

What DO you smoke son, and where do you get it? This “election” ...such as it is, is between a Democrat and a Communist. Period.


36 posted on 05/03/2012 4:57:26 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: luvbach1; fwdude
A Conservative understands the issues in a comprehensive and explainable way. Romney has no core beliefs. That's why he can't stick to the topic speech to speech.

Communications are too good these days to try to get away with the pandering speeches for selected audiences. He's so bad in fact that we are in danger of losing the down ballot offices.

37 posted on 05/03/2012 5:00:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Did he perhaps imagine the 19% of the state vote that is of African-American heritage would dance in the streets upon his arrival?

They won't be dancing except for the Obamanation. Living as I do in Newport News, VA, with its 40% black population, it's hard for me to believe the black population in the state is only 19%.

I live among them and I can't even hang an American flag outside my house without it being taken and undoubtedly destroyed because none are ever displayed.I also had my door mat stolen and had one burglary. Why am I there? Can't afford to live anywhere else for now.

38 posted on 05/03/2012 5:00:12 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: muawiyah

Hey a** wipe Obama is your boy accordinmg to this poll I won’t vote for Romney. I know Moran and all the DC workers in the Va. area I know wtf is going on.


39 posted on 05/03/2012 5:00:42 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: muawiyah
Hey a** wipe Obama is your boy according to this poll I won't vote for Romney. I know Moran and all the DC workers in the Va. area I know wtf is going on.
40 posted on 05/03/2012 5:01:15 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: EGPWS

This election is now down to a choice between a conservative republican and a socialist hack.
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No its between a couple of liberals

The Rebublicans dont have a Conservative running...

Just Willie Mitty the Socialist hack...

Just one liberal hack losing to another liberal hack


41 posted on 05/03/2012 5:02:22 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: huckfillary
I live in a big blue state and I don’t know one person who doesn’t hate Bambi.

Almost everyone I know (in VA and relatives elsewhere) loathe the messiah too, but I don't hang out with liberals.I fervently hope Romney will win. I know he's too liberal but, unlike many Freepers, I believe he will be much better than the current disaster in the White House.It's imperative that Osama Obama be removed.

42 posted on 05/03/2012 5:08:54 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: boomop1
What you don't know is that Moran is in one of the most gerrymandered districts on the face of the Earth and I had something to do with that.

He's got nothing but Democrats, Commies and Nazis over there ~ and I say over there because we used to be trapped in his district.

We aren't now and never will be.

BY gerrymandering Moran the Democrats get what they want ~ a crazy old wifebeating drunk ~ and we get what we want TWO REPUBLICANS ELECTED instead of just one.

The fact you would even complain about that proves you are an Obama agent sent to harrass FR!

43 posted on 05/03/2012 5:10:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: boomop1
Forget everything after Va, we are screwed know matter what happens, we need not be hostile and I apologize for the absurd BS.
44 posted on 05/03/2012 5:11:15 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: Tennessee Nana
Mitt Romney is the best political happening to the promotion of Virgil Goode.

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45 posted on 05/03/2012 5:11:26 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: muawiyah

LOL that is a great reply been here for a long long time, an agent for Jim Rob.


46 posted on 05/03/2012 5:20:11 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: luvbach1
Off the topic a bit, but 19%. With the state split 50/50 that .19 equates to .38 inside Democrat politics. With appropriate gerrymandering we end up with some black dominated Congressional districts where the black voters are certainly at 50% of the total Democrat presence, and probably more like 60%.

That puts effective management of the Democrat party in Virginia in the hands of black politicians. Almost all the Socialist scum are condensed in Moran's district of course.

If you wanted to feel politically disenfranchised in the state you'd be a white Republican voter in a black Congressional district, or maybe even a mind-numbed robot-like knee-jerk Leftwingtard white voter in a black Congressional district.

Recall our crazy Senator, good old what's his name (Webb) ~ used to be a Republican ~ he's getting out of politics here since about half the people he has to deal with in the Virginia Democrat party are black.

Our other Democrat Senator, Warner, imagines himself to be some sort of Romneyesque political force who can move among the masses and spread joy.

He's not going anywhere either, and eventually those guys will demand a black Senator and he'll be out of there just like that.

47 posted on 05/03/2012 5:20:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
The choice must be hard for Virginia voters: socialism or socialism-lite? Pro-abortion or pro-abortion? The homo lover or homo lover?

Look at the primary maps. Even more poorly than McCain did, Mittens only does decent in districts that are heavily Demorat and won't be going for him in November. In throwing conservative values under the bus, he threw out his own chances of winning. He forgot about those people who actually vote on principles while he's been pandering to leftists.

He can't even take back a state that's been voting Republican for ages. This is embarrassing.

48 posted on 05/03/2012 5:39:41 PM PDT by Lady4Liberty (Watch Romney endorse Obama's radical liberal agenda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1fThdWagJ4)
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To: boomop1
Of course, I'm not being humorous. We really need to purge the top end of the Republican party in Virginia and there are some TEAParty people who best start answering questions.

You can't let the party run a series of debates week after week like that and then restrict us to choosing between the village idiot and a criminal.

Just gives everybody a bad taste about it.

I think we need to purge first ~ make sure we don't send any Romney people to the National Convention!~

49 posted on 05/03/2012 5:40:23 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Did you hear; Virginia has a third Senator. Yep that’s right. Øbama’s favorite Republican - Dick Lugar. Hasn’t lived in Indiana in probably 30 years.


50 posted on 05/03/2012 5:44:14 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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