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Free Republic Exclusive! | 5-1-12 | Antoninus

Posted on 05/01/2012 8:52:08 PM PDT by Antoninus

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When faced with a choice of the lesser of two evils, vote for Goode.
1 posted on 05/01/2012 8:52:13 PM PDT by Antoninus
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To: Antoninus
"Obama thanks you for your support."

[Just getting that in before the Rombots do.]
2 posted on 05/01/2012 8:53:44 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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Poor analysis.

>>>”If Romney wins, it doesn’t matter who controls the Congress.”

Huh? Congress passes legislation. A conservative congress will pass conservative legislation. Who’s more likely to sign it, Obama or Romney?

>::” Obama wins with less than 50% of the vote”

THEN it matters less if conservatives control congress, unless you’re pipe dreaming a veto proof majority.

Start with: Remove this regime from power. That’s the primary mission in this election.


3 posted on 05/01/2012 8:56:02 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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You forgot “not voting for Romney is the same as voting for Obama”.
(Severe-conservatives not only have a leftist candidate, they have leftist math skills.)


4 posted on 05/01/2012 8:56:58 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Obama's record is an open charnel pit. Romney's too, but under a whitened sepulchre.)
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To: Antoninus

When faced with a choice of the lesser of two evils, vote for Goode.


And under present circumstances, that’s a vote for 0bama.

We’re in one bad predicament.


5 posted on 05/01/2012 8:57:15 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Antoninus

I’m writing in Santorum. Or Sarah Palin.


6 posted on 05/01/2012 8:57:50 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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>>[Just getting that in before the Rombots do.]<<

hahaha

And your plan is...? Please provide the outcome from said plan.


7 posted on 05/01/2012 9:00:21 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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“Conversely, you could delude yourself into thinking that Romney isn’t as bad as his record clearly shows him to be and spend your time, treasure and energy helping to elect an admitted “progressive” to the presidency.”

Virgil Goode has as much a chance as you have for the presidency.


8 posted on 05/01/2012 9:01:45 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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I'm not voting for anyone. I am voting AGAINST Obummer. The only effective way I can do that is vote for Romney. And then go home and take a shower...
9 posted on 05/01/2012 9:02:21 PM PDT by ciaocotc
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To: D-fendr
Huh? Congress passes legislation. A conservative congress will pass conservative legislation. Who’s more likely to sign it, Obama or Romney?

Have you been paying attention at all for the past 12 years? If Romney wins, he will call the tune and the GOP Congressional leaders will dance to it.

I'm saying that the best we can hope for is divided government and gridlock like we had during the Clinton years which will leave us better positioned for a big win in 2016.
10 posted on 05/01/2012 9:02:43 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: unkus
And under present circumstances, that’s a vote for 0bama.

No, it's not. It's a vote for Virgil Goode, the only conservative in the race.
11 posted on 05/01/2012 9:04:17 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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FRiend, alarm bells should go off in your head when you advocate and promote re-electing Obama on here.

When you type those words, an image should pop into your brain. An image something like this:


And then you should delete this post, and quietly... walk.. away.. from.. the.. keyboard.


:)

12 posted on 05/01/2012 9:07:31 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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And your plan is...? Please provide the outcome from said plan.

Did you read what I wrote? The outcome is gridlock from 2012-2014, more conservative Republican gains in the 2014 midterms and a big conservative Republican victory in 2016, riding the anti-Obama lame-duck wave.

This is a medium- to long-term strategy. It's not a pleasant one, mind you. But none of our options are terribly good at this moment.
13 posted on 05/01/2012 9:08:12 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: Carthego delenda est
Virgil Goode has as much a chance as you have for the presidency.

I don't expect him to win. I expect him to keep Romney from winning, keep Obama under 50%, and energize conservatives to come out and vote for down-ticket conservative Republicans so that the GOP keeps control of the House and gains the Senate.

That's the strategy.
14 posted on 05/01/2012 9:10:34 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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If Romney wins, he will call the tune

The legislative is a co-equal branch. Elect conservatives and they write and pass the legislation. Or, as the saying goes, "The President proposes and Congress disposes."

The alternative of the current regime in the executive branch is much worse in all cases.

15 posted on 05/01/2012 9:11:57 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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16 posted on 05/01/2012 9:15:55 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: D-fendr

Anyone with shiite for brains should not be allowed near a voting booth.


17 posted on 05/01/2012 9:16:43 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Antoninus
When faced with a choice of the lesser of two evils, vote for Goode.

We are faced with the evil of two lessers. Now what coach?

Regards,
GtG

PS Hint, vote 3rd party, say hello to Mr 'O'...

18 posted on 05/01/2012 9:17:17 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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FRiend, alarm bells should go off in your head when you advocate and promote re-electing Obama on here.

Hey, nothing would please me more than if Virgil Goode somehow started a grassroots brushfire and swept to victory in November over both Romney and Obama. (And actually, there is one politician who could potentially pull that off, in my opinion.) But I'm not so naive as to think that could happen short of divine intervention (and don't think I'm not praying for it.)

I'm dealing with realities here and frankly, all the realities stink on ice.

Let me ask you this. Setting aside party labels, if you had a choice of leaders between a lazy, ineffective, pampered marxist and a driven, efficient, amoral socialist with a vendetta against conservatives, which would you choose?
19 posted on 05/01/2012 9:18:33 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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And under present circumstances, that’s a vote for 0bama.

No, it’s not. It’s a vote for Virgil Goode, the only conservative in the race.


You’re right.

I think it’s going to better if 0bama wins. Let’s get it over with and let the whole damned mess collapse.

At least we have the blue prints to build a Republic again.

We’ll have to see what’s left after another 4 years of utter destruction by an evil bastard named 0bama.


20 posted on 05/01/2012 9:18:55 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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The resulting government produces only gridlock which keeps us in the fight with momentum leading into 2014 and 2016.

Gridlock...not really....what about Obamacare kicking in?


21 posted on 05/01/2012 9:20:17 PM PDT by superfries
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All Obama needs to ram his collectivist utopia into place is the Presidency. He has already demonstrated his contempt for the other two branches and will continue to ignore and override them. If you think a conservative Republican congress will be able to hinder or stop him from ruling as a dictator, you are dreaming.


22 posted on 05/01/2012 9:20:47 PM PDT by Argus
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The legislative is a co-equal branch. Elect conservatives and they write and pass the legislation. Or, as the saying goes, "The President proposes and Congress disposes."

That's how it has worked historically speaking. Over the past 12 years, Congress has mostly been the president's lapdog--basically a rubber stamp unless they're controlled by the opposition party. In that case, the result is gridlock.
23 posted on 05/01/2012 9:20:47 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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This is the first election in my lifetime where I believe they had better supply barf bags in the voting booths.


24 posted on 05/01/2012 9:22:20 PM PDT by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: superfries
Gridlock...not really....what about Obamacare kicking in?

What in Mitt Romney's record leads you to believe he will do anything to stop Obamacare from kicking in?


25 posted on 05/01/2012 9:22:30 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: Antoninus; Clintonfatigued; All

I think our best bet is to focus on getting as many pro-life, conservatives in the House and U.S. Senate as possible. It’s really the most effective thing we can do for our country right now, imo.

Clintonfatigued, and others, are doing a great job of pointing out the conservatives running for U.S. Senator.

I started a thread about a primary in NY State, and while Wendy Long is my favorite, all three of the GOP U.S. senatorial candidates seem very good as far as I can tell.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2878423/posts?page=3

It would really be nice to have a conservative from NY in the U.S. Senate, and we have a very good chance this year.


26 posted on 05/01/2012 9:26:20 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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Chips will fall where they may. This Texas household will be placing two write-in votes for Sarah Palin!
We have resigned the Republican party and reregistered independent. Pubs can kiss my rear.


27 posted on 05/01/2012 9:26:29 PM PDT by magglepuss (Don't tread on me)
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To: Argus
He has already demonstrated his contempt for the other two branches and will continue to ignore and override them.

Have you actually looked into Romney's record in Massachusetts? He's the same way. The agenda is all that matters. How the agenda is achieved is unimportant and neither the law nor the truth are obstacles.

THAT is what you are voting for. I won't vote for that. Nor will I vote for Obama.
28 posted on 05/01/2012 9:26:37 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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Two choices:

1. Remove 0bama from the White House.

2. Keep Romney out of the White House

Those are the only two choices.

Which do you choose?

Me? I choose Door #1.


29 posted on 05/01/2012 9:27:01 PM PDT by GreyMountainReagan ("Pray for America")
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The plan If you don't live in a swing state, do whatever eases your conscience most. If you lie in a swing state where the presidency may be in the balance, vote Romney. Four more years or Obama is the death of the Republic no matter how you pretend that Romney is worse. In either case, work for conservative down-ballot candidate.

And please don't think you're being in any way creative or rational trying to convince us to re-elect Obama which, in conclusion, is exactly what you are advocating.

30 posted on 05/01/2012 9:29:06 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Evil never reveals the truth until it's too late to flee.)
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What in Mitt Romney's record leads you to believe he will do anything to stop Obamacare from kicking in?

Yeah, we need Obama re-elected to stop Obamacare from kicking in.

Antonius, your analysis just fails when you start with: Keeping the Obama regime in power is a good idea.

31 posted on 05/01/2012 9:29:50 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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It's a vote for Virgil Goode, the only conservative in the race.

Not true.

32 posted on 05/01/2012 9:31:50 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Obama v. Romney: Zero plus Zero still equals Zero.)
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33 posted on 05/01/2012 9:32:20 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Tax codes and spending don't get 14 year olds pregnant and on welfare. Morality Matters.)
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So are you saying you are resigned to the fact that no matter who wins Obamacare is going to be implemented?


34 posted on 05/01/2012 9:32:37 PM PDT by superfries
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>>Did you read what I wrote?

You wrote a small sarcastic “Rombot” line — it held no information on your plan.

>>The outcome is gridlock from 2012-2014, more conservative Republican gains in the 2014 midterms and a big conservative Republican victory in 2016, riding the anti-Obama lame-duck wave.<<

So your plan is to vote for obama and then ride an anti-obama wave in 2016?

>>This is a medium- to long-term strategy. It’s not a pleasant one, mind you. But none of our options are terribly good at this moment.
<<

Voting for obama is certainly not a “terribly good” option, but at least you stated that as your intention. Many others just dance around the question.


35 posted on 05/01/2012 9:32:53 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: magglepuss
Chips will fall where they may. This Texas household will be placing two write-in votes for Sarah Palin!

That's the politician I was referring to in post 19. It won't happen, but it would be fun to watch.
36 posted on 05/01/2012 9:33:25 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: GreyMountainReagan

Two choices:

1. Keep 0bama in the White House.

2. Put Romney in of the White House

Those are the only two choices.

Which do you choose?

Me? I choose Door #2.


37 posted on 05/01/2012 9:34:31 PM PDT by GreyMountainReagan ("Pray for America")
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So are you saying you are resigned to the fact that no matter who wins Obamacare is going to be implemented?

Yes. The second Romney gets the nomination, we'll be getting socialized medicine one way or the other.

Elections have consequences.
38 posted on 05/01/2012 9:35:25 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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So your plan is to vote for obama and then ride an anti-obama wave in 2016?

I wrote the original post, genius. Read that. Nowhere do I say I'm voting for Obama as he is an odious marxist and a Catholic-hater to boot.
39 posted on 05/01/2012 9:37:15 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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Anyone who votes for romney will be screwed just as if the voted for obama.Conservatives dont vote for liberals unless you live at the country club.Bring it!


40 posted on 05/01/2012 9:38:05 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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We have resigned the Republican party and reregistered independent.

You DON'T register as a party member in Texas. You vote in the primary. That's how you declare what party you are registered with - by voting. If you vote in the Republican primary, you're a Republican. If you vote in the Democrat primary, you're a Democrat. If you don't vote in either, you're an independent and the only reason the state cares is if they don't want you to vote in the run-off if you didn't vote in the first primary.

So either a) you're not a Texan, b) you're lying or c) you're ignorant about how party affiliation works in Texas. You may choose which is the correct description.

41 posted on 05/01/2012 9:38:28 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Evil never reveals the truth until it's too late to flee.)
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To: GreyMountainReagan
Me? I choose Door #2.

I reject your choices and choose to vote against both of them. I'll not vote for a liberal, regardless of party.
42 posted on 05/01/2012 9:38:28 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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Why not elect Romney in a landslide so he has a mandate....a mandate of repealing Obamacare in the republican platform....and push for conservatives down ballot...then we have congress pushing for repeal of Obamacare and if and when Romney pushes back against us we start our search for a Palin to run against him in a 2016 primary as a true conservative? Then the true conservative that beats Romney has a conservative congress in place to fight the good fight.


43 posted on 05/01/2012 9:40:15 PM PDT by superfries
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I’m just stating what I know to be true. But I live in California so it doesn’t matter who I vote for.


44 posted on 05/01/2012 9:40:22 PM PDT by Argus
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John Quincy Adams said:

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost."

Keep the faith. Vote your principle! And pay little if any attention to the GOPe bots. They have to vote their principles as well and that principle is winning at any cost. A poor principle indeed to guide folks through life.

45 posted on 05/01/2012 9:40:55 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America, where are you now?" - Little "r" republican!)
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The best outcome would be Romney winning the Whitehouse, and Tea Party take over House/Senate leadership. Take the power from the appropriators. Leadership that will dig their heels in and shut down the government until budgets actually shrink...not slow growth.

Romney is enough of a squish to go along with strong Congressional leadership.

Obama winning reelection will only damage conservatism even further.

46 posted on 05/01/2012 9:40:55 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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>>>It’s a vote for Virgil Goode, the only conservative in the race.

>>>Not true.

Yes, of course, disagreement and vote-spliting even on the true conservative third party candidate.

And some blame the GOP for ‘giving us’ Romney.

A weak field and a disunited opposition to Romney gave us Romney. Nothing you guys are proposing fixes that. If anything it just repeats it with weaker candidates and more disunity.


47 posted on 05/01/2012 9:40:55 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr
Antonius, your analysis just fails when you start with: Keeping the Obama regime in power is a good idea.

But of course, I didn't say that. What i said was: "A weakened Obama checked by solid Republican majorities in Congress is the least bad option."

All our options are bad at this point. But the absolute last thing we should do is help the GOP elect someone who is a known enemy of conservatives. When you reward bad behavior, you are sure to get more of it.
48 posted on 05/01/2012 9:43:54 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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Yeah, that'll work just fine. Thanks for sharing.
49 posted on 05/01/2012 9:44:39 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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I just got my ballot (California). I’m voting for Ron Paul. Im not voting for Romney.

Ron Paul he was the only one to say he would cut budget by $1 trillion the first year of the new presidency. That’s good enough for me. He gets my vote.

Romney will not make even a dent on the budget defict. Romney will not get my vote.


50 posted on 05/01/2012 9:45:24 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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