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Fired Secret Service agent remains eligible for up to $2.1 million in taxpayer-funded pension payout
freebeacon.com ^ | April 20 2012 | Bill McMorris

Posted on 04/20/2012 1:37:49 PM PDT by NoLibZone

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To: Brown Deer

So your a big gov supporter who defends drunken Secret Service agents while their banging foreign prostitutes, all while defending their bloated, tax paid lottery style retirement pensions?

Ooook.


21 posted on 04/21/2012 12:00:10 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Private sector pensions are NOT taxpayer funded and are becoming very rare.


22 posted on 04/21/2012 6:16:37 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

Pension may have been the wrong word to use. What I meant is most employers of any size contribute more than just social security to your retirement. If SS is all you have you’re looking at a pretty meager retirement.


23 posted on 04/21/2012 6:37:18 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (The democratic party is the greatest cargo cult in history.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

I work for a firm of 45. My employer contributes nothing beyond SS. No pension, no 401k match, nothing. Only one person I know of does and that person is my wife who happens to work for a 3 billion dollar non-profit entity and they have a 503 pension.

Some of my friends employers do have a 401k plan with a match to 3 or 4%. That’s it. Most of them have access to a 401k, but their employer doesn’t match at all.

We are very fortunate. Her employer matches to 8% on the 403b plan and contributes an additional 8% on the 503. But we are unique among all of our friends. No one else we know has anything that even comes close.

So we’ve basically been socking away 24% or so of her annual salary for the last 15 years. Now all we have to worry about is the Government deciding to “protect” us by confiscating it.


24 posted on 04/21/2012 7:05:50 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: OldPossum
"In recognition of the high salaries and pension benefits, there is no woman (i.e., prostitute) on earth that I would involve myself with that would threaten those bennies."

The only problem is, apparently, those "bennies" aren't threatened by prostitutes or other misconduct. If these people were terminated and allowed to keep their pensions, then they weren't really terminated, they were retired. For many years, the American public has been told and sold that salaries and benefits for certain public servants needed to be more generous to attract better people to those positions...I don't see a lot of "better" people involved here. This is the presidential detail. They are supposed to be that cream of the crop, the best of the best, the most intensively screened and thoroughly vetted. If that's the case, it does not speak well for the rest of the SS or FedGov in general.

25 posted on 04/21/2012 7:20:22 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: NoLibZone

This move, IMHO, adds fuel to the conspiracy fire. If this was just about being held truly accountable for gross indiscretions, there would be no pension. As such, this pension can be looked at as “hush money”.


26 posted on 04/21/2012 7:24:14 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: dragnet2

I always felt bills problems with Monica were more about spies blackmailing the highest office in the land but the media dismissed that and claimed it is all about sex.


27 posted on 04/21/2012 8:20:13 AM PDT by winodog
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To: Joe 6-pack

Yes sir, they were allowed to get their pensions but the point I should have made was that by “retiring” early they were not able to build up the averages of higher pay that they would have accrued had they stayed on the job longer. So, indeed they paid some price by being terminated. The higher pay averages would have increased their retirement pay, maybe considerably.

I do stand by my position that no woman is worth losing one’s old-age pay, even increments of it. But then again, maybe I’m showing my age.


28 posted on 04/21/2012 10:20:59 AM PDT by OldPossum
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29 posted on 04/21/2012 10:27:05 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: dragnet2

So you have no respect for a person who would take a bullet for the President of the United States of America?

YOU SCUMBAG! What have YOU done for our country?


30 posted on 04/21/2012 10:41:03 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer
Can anyone imagine, an elite government Secret Service advance team, getting drunk with foreign prostitutes, setting themselves up for blackmail, undermining and compromising security for the leader of the free world?

And then they get lottery style government retirement pensions?

Spit*

So you have no respect for a person who would take a bullet for the President of the United States of America?

YOU SCUMBAG!

LOL!

You really are a moron.

31 posted on 04/21/2012 3:11:33 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

yes, you are a scumbag and a moron, you ignorant POS loser!


32 posted on 04/21/2012 3:17:13 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: NoLibZone
engaging in a cocaine-fueled hooker party

So now we have cocaine thrown into the alleged scandal.......

I'm getting the impression that this incident is getting thrown way out of proportion......

33 posted on 04/21/2012 3:23:26 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Would I like to be young again? No, I worked too hard to get here, I don't want to do it again)
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To: Hot Tabasco
So now we have cocaine thrown into the alleged scandal.......

"I had learned not to care. I blew a few smoke rings, remembering those years. Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it. Not smack, though—Mickey, my potentional intiator had been just a little too eager for me to go through with that. Said he could do it blindfolded, but he was shaking like a faulty engine when he said it. Maybe he was just cold; we were standing in a meat freezer in the back of the deli where he worked, and it couldn't have been more than twenty degrees in there. But he didn't look like he was sweating, his face shiny and tight. He had pulled out the needle and the tubing, and I'd looked at him standing there, surrounded by big slabs of salami and roast beef, and right then an image popped into my head of an air bubble, shiny and round like a pearl, rolling quietly through a vein and stopping my heart... Junkie. Pothead. That's where I'd be headed: the final, fatal role of the young would-be black man. Except the highs hadn't been about that, me trying to prove what a down brother I was. Not by then anyway. I got just the opposite effect, something that could push questions of who I was out of my mind, something that could flatten out the landscape of my heart, blur the edges of my memory. I had discovered that it didn't make any difference whether you smoked reefer in the white classmmate's sparkling new van, or in the dorm room of some brother you'd met at the gym, or on the beach with a couple of Hawaiian kids who had dropped out of school and now spent most of their time looking for an excuse to brawl."
~~ Barack 0bama


34 posted on 04/21/2012 4:04:12 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Joe 6-pack
If these people were terminated and allowed to keep their pensions, then they weren't really terminated, they were retired.

That's not quite accurate. Anyone with 5 years of service or more in a Defined Benefit Plan is VESTED in that plan regardles of when or why they were terminated.

Depending on the plan requirements, they usually can't commence receiving payments from that Plan until at least age 60..........

35 posted on 04/21/2012 4:11:40 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Would I like to be young again? No, I worked too hard to get here, I don't want to do it again)
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To: Brown Deer
Can anyone imagine, an elite government Secret Service advance team, getting drunk with foreign prostitutes, setting themselves up for blackmail, undermining and compromising security for the leader of the free world?

And then they get lottery style government retirement pensions?

you are a scumbag and a moron, you ignorant POS loser!

And you're a big government butt nugget.

36 posted on 04/22/2012 10:43:37 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
And you're a big government butt nugget

You don't know much about me, do you dumbo?


37 posted on 04/22/2012 12:02:50 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer
Can anyone imagine, an elite government Secret Service advance team, getting drunk with foreign prostitutes, setting themselves up for blackmail, undermining and compromising security for the leader of the free world?

And then they get lottery style government retirement pensions?

So you have no respect for a person who would take a bullet for the President of the United States of America?

You don't know much about me, do you

You've ID'd yourself quite well.

You're one of those who involuntarily burp out comments with little or no thought.

38 posted on 04/22/2012 2:58:04 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
You're one of those who involuntarily burp out comments with little or no thought.

Like I said...

You've ID'd yourself quite well.

Yes I have, but you're too ignorant to know me. ;-)
39 posted on 04/22/2012 3:57:39 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer
Can anyone imagine, an elite government Secret Service advance team, getting drunk with foreign prostitutes, setting themselves up for blackmail, undermining and compromising security for the leader of the free world?

And then they get lottery style government retirement pensions?

So you have no respect for a person who would take a bullet for the President of the United States of America?

The comment you made above, regarding respecting married, drunken Secret Service agents, banging foreign prostitutes, makes you a complete idiot.

Nothing personal though.

40 posted on 04/22/2012 4:20:14 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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