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PROOF: Mitt Romney Is As Liberal As OBAMA!!! (Oct 23, 2011)
YouTube.com ^ | Oct 23, 2011 | Mitt Romney

Posted on 04/18/2012 9:55:16 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

Romney backs Obama on abortion, the stimulus, TARP, war time tables, gun control laws, amnesty for illegals, government mandated healthcare.

Please check out these citations:

- http://prolifeprofiles.com/romney

- http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-romney-healthcare-201110...

- http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=361029

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: psychofreep; romney; zot
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"If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures." - Alexander Hamilton
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1 posted on 04/18/2012 9:55:19 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Oh My!

Vote for Obama or Stay Home and things will get better!


2 posted on 04/18/2012 9:56:44 AM PDT by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: G Larry
That's false. The independent website ontheissues.org graphs candidates' ideologies according to their positions on the issues, and this is how they label Romney and Obama. Romney is the image on top and Obama is the image at the bottom: Link http://www.ontheissues.org/barack_obama.htm
3 posted on 04/18/2012 10:00:36 AM PDT by raulgomez05
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To: G Larry

“Vote for Obama or Stay Home and things will get better!”

You got it! We’ll resist by voting Obama!!!


4 posted on 04/18/2012 10:00:40 AM PDT by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Romney = Obama???

That’s like saying pepperoni pizza and chicken-pineapple pizza are pretty much the same thing.


5 posted on 04/18/2012 10:02:45 AM PDT by equaviator
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To: raulgomez05

I suspect they rated Romney on what he says (when pandering for the nomination) and NOT what he actually has done when he exercised power.

If you believe he is a far right conservative, I have swamp land you might be interested in buying for your retirement home.


6 posted on 04/18/2012 10:03:34 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("Of two evils, choose neither." -- Charles Spurgeon)
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To: SoConPubbie

That settles it then Obama - four more years. You sir must want to see the USA go down.


7 posted on 04/18/2012 10:05:56 AM PDT by Internet Walnut
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To: SoConPubbie

MITT ROMNEY IS SATAN'S EVIL TWIN


8 posted on 04/18/2012 10:11:37 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: Internet Walnut
Check out #4! That one is actually serious, has repeatedly voiced that on this forum and gets a free pass. And as usual, more and more good FReepers are leaving. The nasty, rude attacks are completely allowed, provided you belong to the proper “anybody but Romney” crowd. This is getting hard to take for even the most dedicated Military Patriots like myself, who love and protect their country above all else.

I am very close to leaving for good. (Literally)

9 posted on 04/18/2012 10:16:09 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Internet Walnut

I think the two are indistinquishable based on Romney’s record.

Obama will be stopped by Congress. He has already lost their respect as evidenced by Obama not getting a single vote for his budget.

Romney however will have a clear pass by both democrats and establishment republicans.

Romney is a liberal’s best dream. What better plan than to have your opponents leader implement the pro-sodomy, pro-abortion, pro-socialist policies that you wanted implemented.


10 posted on 04/18/2012 10:17:21 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SoConPubbie

Yes, Mitt Romney is a liberal, no doubt about that whatsoever.

Barack Hussein Obama is a red communist.


11 posted on 04/18/2012 10:17:21 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: SoConPubbie

By owning both parties, the establishment cannot lose. Romney and Obama are two sides of the same coin. Like it or not, we will have either Theocratic Communism, or we will have Fascistic Communism.God have mercy!


12 posted on 04/18/2012 10:18:51 AM PDT by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: SoConPubbie

Oh my gosh you’ve convinced me! Your endless, repetitive posts about how much you hate Mitt Romney have persuaded me to vote for Obama in November. Giving the Muslim Marxist tyrant 4 more years to completely destroy the country will really show those Republican elites! That’ll show ‘em! Yeah, I’m an Obama voter now because Mitt Romney isn’t the perfect conservative candidtate that I dreamed about. I’m proud to join the ranks of malcontent cranks who cant accept reality and vote for the guy we have (not the guy we wish we had) because he’s better than the Muslim Marxist alternative.


13 posted on 04/18/2012 10:20:42 AM PDT by Astronaut
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; SoConPubbie
If you believe he is a far right conservative,,,

Uh...it doesn't show him as a "far right" conservative.

I suspect that you & SoCon have your minds made up - and nothing will penetrate the anti-Romney wall you've erected.

And so it is for you - and oftentimes me - that my tagline exists...

14 posted on 04/18/2012 10:29:16 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Astronaut

so, are you saying that your socialist is better than their socialist?????? socialist is as socialist does.... baby killers are baby killers.... attacks on the second amendment are attacks on the second amendment... gay marriage advocate is gay marriage advocate..

socialism is the enemy of the country, enemy of the people, enemy of the constitution, and MY enemy.

I will not lend my name in any way shape or form to the progression of socialism.. Period..


15 posted on 04/18/2012 10:29:52 AM PDT by joe fonebone (If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.)
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To: Paperdoll; DannyTN

Bingo!!

How true how true.


16 posted on 04/18/2012 10:31:55 AM PDT by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: joe fonebone

Oh you’re right! Thats why voting for Obama makes so much sense. I have to teach those darn Republican elitists that if they aren’t going to nominate the perfect conservative candidate, I will vote for the Marxist to teach them a lesson. Or stay home and not vote, which is just as good as a vote for the Marxist. Your logic is flawless. Being a petulant whiner is absolutely the way to teach those darn elites to do the right thing.


17 posted on 04/18/2012 10:35:07 AM PDT by Astronaut
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To: SoConPubbie; onyx; katiedidit1; b9; true believer forever; caww

A few of highlights from Romney’s record showing just how unfriendly he has been over the years to the ideas the tea party holds dear (links and details further below):

Romney distanced himself from Reagan and Reagan’s policies
Romney didn’t like the Contract with America
Romney led the fight for and implemented health care reform almost identical to ObamaCare
Romney called his beta version of ObamaCare “a model for the nation”
Romney defended the individual mandate, saying, “I like mandates. The mandates work.”
Romney supports cap-and-trade “on a global basis”
Romney worked to regulate “greenhouse gas emissions” in Massachusetts
Romney got Massachusetts involved in a regional climate change pact
Romney supports ethanol subsidies
Romney wants to increase spending “substantially” on energy research
Romney opposes the Flat Tax
Romney refused to support the 2003 Bush tax cuts
Romney’s claim to not have raised taxes is called “mostly myth” by Cato Institute
Romney thought Obama’s stimulus would “accelerate the timing of the start of the recovery”
Romney supports TARP
Romney says there’s nothing wrong with companies asking for bailouts
Romney supports No Child Left Behind
Romney supports reappointing Ben Bernanke to chairman of the Federal Reserve

http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/thale/the-issue-with-romney-is-the-issues


18 posted on 04/18/2012 10:36:01 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: raulgomez05

Independent? OntheIssues.org is based in Massachusetts. Could be wrong, but I bet it is linked heavily to Romney.

Anyway, an analysis that wrong certainly calls their credibility into question.


19 posted on 04/18/2012 10:36:31 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: All

More Mitt, More Problems

Romney supports federal involvement in education, long held by constitutional conservatives as a state prerogative, offering his support for the Bush-Kennedy No Child Left Behind law. In a 2008 debate, Romney stated, “I supported No Child Left Behind, still do.”[33]

Romney ran on raising the minimum wage and putting in place automatic increases by indexing it to inflation.[34]

Romney signed in to law a smoking ban.[35]

Romney thinks it’s OK for companies to ask for bailouts, stating in a New York Times op-ed about the auto bailout, “It is not wrong to ask for government help, but the automakers should come up with a win-win proposition”[36]

In April 2009, Romney told The Hill newspaper that: “We as Republicans misspeak when we say we don’t like regulation. We like modern, up-to-date dynamic regulation that is regularly reviewed, streamlined, modernized and effective.”[37]

On Neal Cavuto on January 28 2010, Romney supported the reappointment of Ben Bernanke to chairman of the Federal Reserve.[38]

Romney distanced himself from Reagan. During his Senate debate with Ted Kennedy, Romney made it clear he was not a fan of Ronald Reagan. Kennedy said to Romney, “Under your economic program, under the program of Mr. Reagan…” to which Romney responded, “I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.”[39]

Romney didn’t like the Contract with America, saying “…it is not a good idea to go into a contract like what was organized by the Republican party in Washington laying out a whole series of things which the party said these are the things we are gonna do. I think that’s a mistake.”[40]

http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/thale/the-issue-with-romney-is-the-issues


20 posted on 04/18/2012 10:39:54 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Astronaut
"Yeah, I’m an Obama voter now because Mitt Romney isn’t the perfect conservative candidtate that I dreamed about.

We aren't talking about a Romney not being the prefect candidate. It's not like Romney just has a few imperfections. We are talking about Romney being opposed to almost everything we stand for.

I have no intention of voting for either candidate. Both are pro-sodomy=marriage, pro abortion, anti-gun rights, pro socialized medicine candidates.

21 posted on 04/18/2012 10:42:37 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
It's hard to believe that you are finding a way to validate another 4 years of Obama, as well as you are going out of your way to help him get reelected.

Your lame projections are also traitorous, since you don't realize that Obama will use the next 4 years to load the courts from district level to SCOTUS. And your theory that Obama will be held in check by the legislation, it looks like the outcome of the last 4 years, completely destroys your claim that Obama has been kept under control, since he has resorted to Executive privilege to circumvent Congress and the Senate.

The next 4 years of Obama will end all doubt that the Republic is doomed.

ABO, there is no other option.

22 posted on 04/18/2012 10:42:45 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: DannyTN

Oh yes, there is absolutely no difference between Romney and Obama. Why, if one hadn’t been born in Kenya, you’d swear they were the same guy! Not a bit of difference between the two. Darn those Repubilcan elites for forcing thousands of people to vote for a white Obama. Now he has the nomination. I can hardly tell the difference between a hard working, self made business man and a Muslim with a shady past and radical anti-white and anti-American associations. Yep, cant hardly tell the difference.


23 posted on 04/18/2012 10:49:07 AM PDT by Astronaut
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
"It's hard to believe that you are finding a way to validate another 4 years of Obama, as well as you are going out of your way to help him get reelected."

THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE!

Your lame projections are also traitorous, since you don't realize that Obama will use the next 4 years to load the courts from district level to SCOTUS.

As opposed to the way Romney selected liberal judges in Massachusetts? And made gay marriages possible? Either candidate is going to bring liberal judges.

And your theory that Obama will be held in check by the legislation, it looks like the outcome of the last 4 years, completely destroys your claim that Obama has been kept under control, since he has resorted to Executive privilege to circumvent Congress and the Senate

And Romney has a record of that too. See Romney's involvment in gay marriages. Both Romney and Obama have links to Alinsky. I'll say it again. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE!

If we are going to embrace liberalism anyway, let it be a democrat at the helm, while we try to figure out either how to fix the Republican party, or grow a new one like the Constitution party to be viable.

24 posted on 04/18/2012 10:51:35 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

There is no difference, that is for sure, between you and an average Democrat.

You went so far to the Right, that you came back out on the Left. You would gladly let your country be destroyed to satisfy your need for revenge. The only good thing going for the country is, your kind are less than 2% of the population and there are as many radical Democrat/Leftist on the other side who will cancel you kind of insane behavior out.


25 posted on 04/18/2012 10:59:51 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Astronaut
"I can hardly tell the difference between a hard working, self made business man and a Muslim with a shady past and radical anti-white and anti-American associations. "

I'm not sure I'd call Romney self made. And Obama's associations as opposed to the Romney's who "didn't know a Republican" prior to his switching parties.

There might be a little difference, but the differences are small. The social issues that they are both on the wrong side of have me looking elsewhere.

26 posted on 04/18/2012 11:02:15 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SoConPubbie

The New World order has lots of allies in the war to defeat Romney and elect Barack Obama again.


27 posted on 04/18/2012 11:03:49 AM PDT by RoadTest (There is one god, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
"your kind are less than 2% of the population and there are as many radical Democrat/Leftist on the other side who will cancel you kind of insane behavior out."

Fine then let the radical Democrat/Leftists elect Romney and I'll vote for someone that shares some of my values.

28 posted on 04/18/2012 11:04:05 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SoConPubbie

Okay, okay, i will vote for Obama. At least he is fun to make fun of with those ears and that wife.


29 posted on 04/18/2012 11:13:48 AM PDT by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: SoConPubbie

Well, I guess I’ll vote for Obama then.


30 posted on 04/18/2012 11:16:05 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: DannyTN

Well, you are right, I am now convinced to vote for Obama.
I am kind of concerned about his Exective Orders and his Supreme picks, I am also concerned that he will initiate his civil military but at least he isn’t Romney.
Thanks for all you do in supporting Obama.


31 posted on 04/18/2012 11:17:37 AM PDT by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: raulgomez05

Those things are always based on the platform and positions someone says they have. They’re not based on the record of what they did. If you believe Mitt Romney has “gotten more conservative as he got older,” i.e. during those key “formative years” of age 60 through 65, then, allow me to ROTFLMFAO.


32 posted on 04/18/2012 11:21:10 AM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: chris37
Yes, Mitt Romney is a liberal, no doubt about that whatsoever.

Barack Hussein Obama is a red communist.

Difference is communism is radical enough to be blocked by the Congress, but squishy, big government, compassionate conservatism and bleeding heart liberalism is something that sounds good to the public and hence will be passed unless you have bitterly divided gridlock.

33 posted on 04/18/2012 11:24:05 AM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: jonno
Uh...it doesn't show him as a "far right" conservative.

Yes it does say exactly that. But it's not surprising that someone like who's rolled over for Romney has trouble reading information that has been clearly spelled out for you.

34 posted on 04/18/2012 11:26:09 AM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: RoadTest
"The New World order has lots of allies in the war to defeat Romney and elect Barack Obama again."

The New World order is in a win/win situation. They have control of both parties and their pick of liberal candidates nominated by each.

35 posted on 04/18/2012 11:27:11 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I have to agree with you. This is getting nutty. I ‘m starting to think there are shills making comments. If Obama gets back in, he will surely get a opportunity at another Supreme Court Justice, more executive orders, more czars...

WTF .... wake up!!!


36 posted on 04/18/2012 11:28:09 AM PDT by Basement Dweller
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To: Astronaut

my my.......aren’t we bitter today... I do not intend to stay home, I will go to the polls and cast my ballot for the non-socialist whoever that may be... I will vote conservative down the ticket. I am a conservative, small l libertarian, but I am NOT a republican.

The only difference between fubo and mcromney is one is white with an r after his name. They are both the same. They both have records of appointing liberals to the courts, both back abortion on demand, both endorse gay rights, both are attackers of the second amendment, both never saw a tax they did not like or a spending bill they did not like.

You either support socialism or you do not. There is no middle ground. I do not. My vote is a bullet aimed at the heart of socialism. If the people on this forum who claim to be for god, country, family and conservatism all fire the same bullet at the same time we just might wound the damn animal, maybe kill it from the republican party entirely.

This is a revolution, and it is occuring at the ballot box. There will be pain. There will be suffering. Every revolution experences this. But, it is winnable. It will take a strong back and a willingness to buck the system and tell the so called republican elite to eat their own excrement sandwich this time.


37 posted on 04/18/2012 11:28:18 AM PDT by joe fonebone (If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.)
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To: SoConPubbie

"My views are progressive." - Mitt Romney

MORE OF LIBERAL MITT'S RECORD:
See Romney's Press Release After He Permanently Banned Assault Rifles.
Romney's State Sponsored Push Of The Homosexual Agenda Onto Children.
RomneyCare Covers Abortions.
Mitt & Ann Romney: Planned Parenthood Donors
Video of Romney Fully Supporting Amnesty.
Video of Liberal Mitt's Greatest Hits.


38 posted on 04/18/2012 11:28:42 AM PDT by Lady4Liberty (Watch Romney endorse Obama's radical liberal agenda: http://youtu.be/i1fThdWagJ4)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

The only reason I haven’t left FR yet, is because I’m curious just how Pro-Obama this forum is going to go. There seems no stop to it. Especially now that Jim Rob released a statement that he is standing firm on his opposition to Romney throughout this election. That gives complete immunity to all kinds of statements that would not have been tolerated a year ago. You can’t tell who’s serious, and who may be a DU Troll.

For now I’m staying, but I’ve been threaten with Zots a few times for posting level headed statements about this election. Only a matter of time till I get thrown off, I think.


39 posted on 04/18/2012 11:36:01 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Basement Dweller

It’s not just about the person who will sit behind the Resolute desk. We must not forget the President’s cabinet, his advisors, and others that influenced his political ideology ? For Obama we all have become familiar with names like;

A partial list of those who influenced Obama’s political ideology

Van Jones
Bill Ayers,
George Soros
Cass Sunstein
Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Frances Fox Piven
Reverend Write
Saul Alinski

We are still in the Primary process, and for those still pinning their hopes on Newt or a third party candidate, then by all means go for it and good luck. But for me I proudly stand with other Palin, Cain, Bachmann, Perry, and now Santorum supporters that are now in the fight of our lives to support Anybody But Obama.
We must not forget, it’s not just who sits behind the Resolute Desk, but the list of names that shapes that person. Do we want to give the list of names above another 4-years to finish what they started?


40 posted on 04/18/2012 11:39:26 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: raulgomez05
Those graphs are completely worthless, as are the labels "left", "right", and "moderate".

I want to see both plotted on a 2D chart, with the abscissa as the candidate's record on their desired amount of government control (0-100%, anarchist to totalitarian) and the ordinate the candidate's record on their desired amount of public employment (0-100%, total private enterprise to utter fascism).

Betcha Romney and Obama are in the same quadrant.

41 posted on 04/18/2012 11:42:55 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: SoConPubbie
Here is the way I look at it. The Republican voters want Romney by their overwhelming vote. OK. What in the hell do we do since most of us know that Romney is not a conservative Constitutionalists. But on further reflection who is King Obama. How about a hard core communists BLACK rat that has destroyed so much of America we may never recover. Final analysis I will have to vote for Romney rather than King Obama. No choice.

Where we lost the whole game is the destruction of the only real Constitutional conservative with the gonads to make a complete reversal - Newt Gingrich.

42 posted on 04/18/2012 11:43:55 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: SoConPubbie

if you stay home, you’re “voting for Obama.” If you insist on voting Conservative, supposedly you’re “voting for Obama”. If you’re voting for Mitt, you’re voting for a white Obama, so why not skip the nonsense and just vote Obama...at least then there’s a shot at revolution.

Almost forgot.../sarc


43 posted on 04/18/2012 11:50:21 AM PDT by AnTiw1
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To: mel

I can’t in good conscience vote for either.

Obama might be better than Romney in that he carries the ‘rat brand on his liberal policies, but I can’t vote for him.

I’ll probably vote Constitution party. Heck, I’d even vote for that Libertarian kook over these two.


44 posted on 04/18/2012 11:52:57 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I have to agree with you. This is getting nutty. I ‘m starting to think there are shills making comments. If Obama gets back in, he will surely get a opportunity at another Supreme Court Justice, more executive orders, more czars...

WTF .... wake up!!!


45 posted on 04/18/2012 11:53:02 AM PDT by Basement Dweller
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To: raulgomez05

FR Rule #2

Always use the /sarc tag, no matter how obvious you think your sarcasm is.

I broke FR Rule #2.....sorry.....


46 posted on 04/18/2012 11:53:45 AM PDT by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: JediJones
"Difference is communism is radical enough to be blocked by the Congress"

I really, really wish that I could believe that, but I cannot, though I definitely agree regarding squishiness of other philosophies and gridlock.

47 posted on 04/18/2012 11:56:20 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: jonno

“If you believe he is a far right conservative,,,
Uh...it doesn’t show him as a “far right” conservative.”

Uh, I didn’t say it showed him as an EXTREME far right conservative, but it shows him squarely in the conservative right corner of the chart... which his actions deny.

For this reason, I suspect that your mind is made up - and nothing will penetrate the pro-Romney wishful thinking you are demonstrating.

And so it is for you - and oftentimes me - that my tagline exists... :-)

blessing to you and yours,
ampu


48 posted on 04/18/2012 12:19:57 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("Of two evils, choose neither." -- Charles Spurgeon)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Well stated.

I think where you and I differ is merely on whether Mitt is evil. I think we might agree that BO is evil - so that’s a no-brainer.

So now we’re just down to Mitt - is he evil?

As of yet I’m unconvinced...


49 posted on 04/18/2012 12:53:26 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Astronaut

Romney, hard working self made man? He got his money the same way the Kennedys got theirs, but is less honest about it. He claims he did not inherit is which may be true because they gave it to him while they were alive. Read his bio. his first job was at the age of 31. He lived off of a trust fund his parents had set up just as his sons are doing. His claim that his sons are serving this country by campaigning for h1m shows his disrespect for the military.


50 posted on 04/18/2012 1:32:20 PM PDT by brightright
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