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To: volunbeer; Jim Robinson
The circular firing squad will continue.

Yes, it will. It was like this 4 years ago.

Is there anyone on this board that can truly say that they believe McCain would have been as bad as Obama over the last 3 years? I remember many saying that and I was one of them. I was horribly wrong.

Obama won’t have to worry about being elected again in his second term. He will probably get 1-3 SCOTUS appointments and the court may effectively become the Obama court for the next two decades. I think we have only begun to see how radical Obama and his handlers are.


McCain would have been far more damaging to the reputation of conservative principles - all things conservative.

The Federal annual deficits would not be much smaller than they are now.

McCain would have signed some sort of "stimulus" - hundreds of billions - in a spirit of being "bi-partisan".

We would not have Obamacare, but a slightly watered down version, McCaincare. It would have been a boondoggle that threw hundreds of billions to the healthcare "industry"; trillions over the years.

Long story short, the train would be still heading towards the same train wreck.

Europe is crashing as we speak, slowly. That would still be happening. McCain would certainly not try to stop the Fed from spreading our borrowed dollars (that taxpayers owe) all around Europe and the world to "help out".

He would not significantly decrease the role of government in the private sector; the SEC - big finance cabal would still be keeping capital away from micro businesses in America and investing overseas. So unemployment might be a half a point lower, but our structural problems would remain. Communists run the public school system; statists like Michael Bloomberg would still be gradually tightening the noose around the neck of the America citizen. Starting a small business would be just as tough, really, as it is now.

And of course, for all the mess would be labeled forever as a failed "conservative" Republican solution.

If we have a conservative nominee would will actually fix things, then we can confidently elect them and expect success. If we don't, we will see problems (which nowadays are/will be massive); in that case, let a communist be in the White House and take the full blame for the mess. People will then LONG FOR freedom and be more receptive to conservative ideas.
1,186 posted on 04/12/2012 8:46:54 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

If we have a conservative nominee would “be willing to” actually fix things, then we can confidently elect them and expect success.


I don’t share that confidence. As I have stated numerous times, our country is so far off the rails that any conservative we elected to cut entitlement spending even 10% would likely see congress change hands within two years and he/she would be slaughtered in four.

Look at Wisconsin.... a small cut to benefits and they shut down the capital for weeks. Realistically, what do you think will happen when they cut food stamps, welfare, social services, union contracts, pensions, medicaid, medicare, and social security?

I could support such a candidate, but our problems won’t be fixed in two, four, eight, or even sixteen years. We are looking at drastic cuts in government spending spread out over decades to get out of the hole we find ourselves in. Reagan could not do it and he was the finest communicator and most pursuasive President we have seen in my lifetime.


1,197 posted on 04/12/2012 9:00:00 PM PDT by volunbeer (Don't worry America, our kids can pay for it!)
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