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1 posted on 04/10/2012 10:05:41 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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My hubby feels the same way as you do. I hope you are both wrong. I guess I am waiting for Hillary to make her move. She’s got the goods on Obama and could easily take him down and come in to “save the day and the dem party”. Barf!


81 posted on 04/10/2012 11:01:48 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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Yeah. Maybe.

But if God be for us, who can be against us? Not Obama.


82 posted on 04/10/2012 11:02:42 AM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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I don’t necessarily think your reasons are correct, but I believe the outcome you cited will be the one that’ll happen.

How could Republicans be so close to nominating a mormon? And a liberal one at that?


90 posted on 04/10/2012 11:13:32 AM PDT by rudman
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This is no time to go wobbly, Laz.

92 posted on 04/10/2012 11:16:46 AM PDT by TonyInOhio (A society that becomes more Muslim eventually becomes less everything else.)
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I completely disagree with the various points of this vanity. In fact, they will have precisely the opposite effect. The black vote is a given. The race baiting, occupy movement, crappy economy, and gas prices will kill him. They are turning off Americans big time, and that’s the tone once one gets away from the FR echo chamber or the hyper liberal blogs on the other side. Also, Romney isn’t viewed as negatively in general as he is on this forum. Yes, many Americans receive some sort of government financial aid, but normal mainstreet America would rather have a job than take charity. The media knows Obama is in trouble and present a completely different picture than reality and highlight the disenfranchised “squeeky wheels” as being representive of the electorate at large, which they aren’t. The reality is that the “magic” simply ain’t there anymore. The mask is off. People now openly discuss “socialism” which was almost unheard of a few short years ago. All this negative talk is like a coach in the locker room telling his team before the game that they will get creamed, so just buck up and take your lumps.


94 posted on 04/10/2012 11:18:03 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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95 posted on 04/10/2012 11:18:16 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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I am somewhat mildly inclined to agree.


99 posted on 04/10/2012 11:21:36 AM PDT by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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Dunno ‘bout most of that stuff. Number four is virtually certain and in implementation right now.

I figure it has more do with:

1. Government parasitism (at both ends of the economy) has reached the tipping point. There are more parasites than producers voting.
2. ACORN survived, re-branded itself, and is back on the job of professional vote fraud, once again paid by our tax dollars. If any parasites forget to vote ACORN will be happy to vote for them. Not to mention, the dead, demented, etc.
3. The Unions and their money are completely in the pocket of the President.
4. The MSM is wholly on the president’s side and, like it or not, the majority of Americans STILL get their “news” from the MSM.
5. Romney is about as inspiring as Tofu and has about as much guts. It doesn’t matter who he picks for VP, it won’t improve much.

Dunno that a “war” with Iran would help unless Iran cooperated by “Pearl Harboring” or 9/11ing us first. If Iran launches a successful attack on something with heavy American losses, Obama is in; if not war with Iran can only be a negative.
Race war won’t help him. Obama’s self chosen ethnicity is “black” and we’ll be pretty peeved at blacks if this starts up or escalates.
Occupy Wall Street is a joke. An ugly, smelly joke, but a joke still.
Gas Prices are gas prices. Unless the ‘Pubbies want to press Obama’s anti-energy policies, this won’t have any effect; if the do have the guts to press it (ha!) it will be a negative for Obama.

So Obama will probably win, but for different reasons.


100 posted on 04/10/2012 11:23:54 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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1. War With Iran: Rally-around-the-President will fail as gas prices spike to extremes, and Iran may launch terrorist attacks on US soil.
2. High Gas Prices as a Positive: Extreme gas spikes will collapse (and then some) any illusion of an economic recovery.
3. Race Wars: Any further escalation would be a disaster for Obama as the country would no longer buy his "If I had a son..." TOTUS platitudes.
4. Lies about the Economy: Gas spikes from the Iranian conflict will make any attempt by the MSM to say otherwise a complete joke by a significant majority of Americans.
5. Occupy Wall Street: Further civil disobedience by OWS will backfire, and could escalate R2/CW2 tensions if combined with gas spikes, economic collapse, possible terrorist strikes by Iranian operatives on US soil, and a fomented race war.

The resulting nightmare society will either cause Obama to lose big time and he goes quietly, or he uses the Iranian war as an excuse for Martial Law or to postpone the elections, and all Hell breaks loose.

Obama will lose big time if Romney chooses a solid running mate and Conservatives rally to save the country...

102 posted on 04/10/2012 11:25:50 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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1. Not a chance in Hell Obama will attack Iran, now, or ever. The idea that a very political President, with zero military experience, would embark on a very dangerous war in the most volatile region on the planet, on the cusp of his most important election, is beyond reason.

2. When high gas prices become a positive for you or any other consumer/voter, post me. Wrong again.

3. Whites have had a belly full of racist BS. Don't look for white guilt to reelect Obama. Ain't gonna happen.

4. Everybody knows the MSM is lying about Obama & the economy. If they have any effect on the election, it will be in denigrating the Pub nominee, not in hiding a collapsing economy.

5. OWS is just laughable.

I don't mean to hurt your feelings, but you are dead wrong here.

Obama intends to STEAL the election in key states. That's the ONLY way he can get reelected.

If anybody thinks the USSC/Obamacare decision is a potential crisis moment, wait until December, when the court must decide if Obama blatantly stole the election, & the Justice Dept. was deeply complicit. Then, wait to see WHO will have to REMOVE the Obama's from the WH in January.

105 posted on 04/10/2012 11:28:58 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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I have been saying some of these same things Laz and my “friends” say I am crazy... I pray I am wrong... but I doubt it.


107 posted on 04/10/2012 11:31:58 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (How do you say Arkanicide in Kenyan?)
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He’s moving those ships to the Persian Gulf for SOMETHING, and despite the fact that Dear Leader is a metrosexual spineless wimp, I’ve been thinking for a while that he’s got something up his sleeve for Iran. And that he’s going to wait for election time. Then, OMG, we’re at war! We have to support a wartime president! /s

About the gas prices....I think that will be a negative for voters and he won’t be able to spin it, except for the abysmally brain-damaged enviro-lefties, who want us to pay high prices for gas.

Agree about the race stuff....and I know there was more, but I can’t go back and see because I keep timing out, LOL.


111 posted on 04/10/2012 11:35:17 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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War With Iran: One-hundred-percent chance of Obama going to war with Iran in August of 2012.

He can have a war with Iran all he wants as long as he goes alone. I really don't think the rest of the country wants it, nor can we afford it, especially after 10 years of war. If Iran pulls a 9/11 on us, all bets are off.

116 posted on 04/10/2012 11:48:38 AM PDT by Sarajevo (Money cannot buy happiness, but it's more comfortable to cry in a Mercedes than on a bicycle.)
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According to Rush, if the SOTU overturns the ‘mandate’, the campaign slogon will be: “5 Republican members of the SCOTUS have taken away your healthcare!”


118 posted on 04/10/2012 11:59:34 AM PDT by wolfcreek (‘closed eye’ mentality is the reason for our current reality)
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According to Rush, if the SOTU overturns the ‘mandate’, the campaign slogon will be: “5 Republican members of the SCOTUS have taken away your healthcare!”


119 posted on 04/10/2012 11:59:53 AM PDT by wolfcreek (‘closed eye’ mentality is the reason for our current reality)
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The key that most FReepers forget: 90% of voters will split the vote regardless of who’s on the ticket. Seriously, you could run Mother Theresa vs. Cuthulu and they’d get a 45/45 split. Of the remaining 10% (could be a mere 5%, adjust math accordingly) to win one only need persuade 5.01% - and these are people who view both viable candidates as equal (otherwise they would be in the 90%+ category). Persuasion need not be total, it just need be a marginal preference. Classic techniques for garnering that marginal preference are (A) war, and (B) money: give ‘em a reason to not change mid-stream in something serious, and/or pay ‘em enough that they’ll be beholden to the candidate. The military is already chomping at the bit for a fight so however much our current POTUS dislikes such things he can just say “do it” out of political expediency and walk away, returning to his specialty of smokey backroom deals for buying votes via handing out large piles of money he has authority to give yet he’s not responsible for.


123 posted on 04/10/2012 12:10:37 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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The antiwar hypocrites on the left won't allow #1 unless it's done via proxies. I do not expect War With Iran.

He will continue to spin gas prices, and plans to reduce them, but I expect they'll peak and fall in time for reelection. He isn't being hammered on gas prices like Bush because it's not part of the tiresome "Big Oil" narrative. It's all beyond his control, don't you know.

The kneejerk demagogic Trayvon stand is the very definition of low-grade racial warfare. The war on voter ID is another front in that strategy. The pressitute framework that criticism or facts about Obama's = racism is another. Many more of these divisive lines of attack ahead. The "historic" nature of his presidency is his Trump card. Based upon his objective record, if he were John F. Kerry, his reelection goose would be cooked. Generations of race card indoctrination by the Left's plantation mentality evangelists all but assure a first term mulligan for the golfer-in-chief.

Lies about the economy and cooked books are standards.

Occupy will be used against Romney. We've seen it all along, even this week Obama saying they couldn't afford Michelle not working despite his $162,000 a year salary. His salary put them well inside the top ten percent of all incomes and hers put them in the fabled top one percent.

He will run against a "do nothing Congress" despite the obstructionism of hooligan Harry Reid's Senate. The press and his campaign will depend upon an ignorance of the American People who will take "congress" as to mean the GOP-controlled House.

He will run against SCOTUS if the ObamaCare is struck down, in whole or in part. He will use it as reason he needs to be reelected: to ensure more fair and socially-minded justices are appointed to the High Court rather than right-wing extremists like Alito, Scalia or Thomas.

Lastly, as you mention, is the phony "war on women." Actress Park Overall (nurse on Empty Nest) is using that to launch her Tennessee Democrat bid for the U.S. Senate seat up for reelection in November. There is no candidate taking away contraception, not even senator sanctimonious. This was settled by the Supreme Court 7-2, almost 50 years ago, that states cannot ban contraception (Griswold v. CT). The modern "debate" is all about who pays. We know birth control using women can pay $4/mo or even $10 for three months supply at outlets like Walmart even today. If contraception is your choice and you can't afford $3/mo, you have no business lying down with a man nor he with you.

There's high probability Obama is reelected; if he's not, I'll wonder if have reached the start of a post-racial period. I'd like to believe four more of Obama/Biden's not quite set in stone but I'm not bullish on GOP's chances even at keeping the House.

125 posted on 04/10/2012 12:18:08 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Newt says, "A nominee that depresses turnout won't beat Barack Obama.")
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I think I’m about resigned to your opinion as well.

With Rick dropping out and not asking for his delegates to pledge and support Newt we’re about done.

Unless Newt is wholey committed to a floor fight.

I’ve already heard these things from friends who are zombies.

When I frame the issues to what are real and not inventions they quiet down but I think the are hopeless and legion.

They don’t get that the fight on Health Care isn’t about health Care, rather that a government can impose its will on us and dictate how we live our live.


129 posted on 04/10/2012 12:38:41 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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I think I’m about resigned to your opinion as well.

With Rick dropping out and not asking for his delegates to pledge and support Newt we’re about done.

Unless Newt is wholey committed to a floor fight.

I’ve already heard these things from friends who are zombies.

When I frame the issues to what are real and not inventions they quiet down but I think the are hopeless and legion.

They don’t get that the fight on Health Care isn’t about health Care, rather that a government can impose its will on us and dictate how we live our live.


130 posted on 04/10/2012 12:39:08 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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I think I’m about resigned to your opinion as well.

With Rick dropping out and not asking for his delegates to pledge and support Newt we’re about done.

Unless Newt is wholey committed to a floor fight.

I’ve already heard these things from friends who are zombies.

When I frame the issues to what are real and not inventions they quiet down but I think the are hopeless and legion.

They don’t get that the fight on Health Care isn’t about health Care, rather that a government can impose its will on us and dictate how we live our live.


132 posted on 04/10/2012 12:41:16 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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