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Thomas Kinkade - "Painter of Light" - Dies
AP ^ | 4/7/12 | John S. Marshall

Posted on 04/06/2012 10:33:54 PM PDT by boatbums

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To: Babba Gi

Thus said Fraiser Crane, while Niles leans against a wall gasping for breath! Yes I agree. I always hated that it was required that I love his work. Every christian family had one. “if Kincaid is good enough for Jesus, he is good enough for me!”


51 posted on 04/07/2012 6:32:57 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: marygam
Ditto. I always thought of Kinkade as a talented illustrator. Norman Rockwell is a good comparison. The fact that he was reviled by the art establishment is a point in his favor. Kinkade's stuff is not my cup of tea -- a little too sentimental -- but it is at least pretty, which is better than a lot of what populates museums and exhibitions these days.

People collect poster art, some of which commands a pretty hefty premium. Nothing wrong with that. I suspect a lot of the hostility to Kinkade stems from the fact that he was so openly commercial, and made money.

52 posted on 04/07/2012 6:35:33 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: boatbums
beloved by middlebrow America

I dunno. I like NASCAR, bluegrass music, grilling a big ol' T-bone over charcoal, and driving ATV's all round my mountain property.

But I have Lautrec and Magritte prints on my office and living room wall, and yeah, I'd be embarrassed to put a Kinkade up next to them.

It's almost like taste is a personal thing or sumpin....

53 posted on 04/07/2012 6:50:34 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Mi tio esta enfermo, pero la carretera es verde!)
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To: WashingtonSource
I disagree. They are sentimental, but they are good art. The sophisticates hate sentimentality. They also hate Christians. Ergo, their disdain. This is not “velvet Elvis.” This is more of a classic style that will survive the ages.

You've already fallen into the trap: "It's not because I'm rude, disdainful, dishonest, lazy, less-than-competent, stupid, or unimaginative. You're not giving me the promotion/you don't like me/you hate me/you're rejecting my application/you're failing my job interview/you're giving me a bad grade on my test because I'm black/gay/Hispanic/fat/female/Rosicrucian/tattooed/old/young/male."

A large portion of the greatest Western art of the past 2000 years features Christian themes. The artistic merit of these works is not despised because of the subject matter. And they are not taken to be great art because of their subject matter.

The reason a lot of people who know art dislike most of Kinkade's work of the past 30 years is not because he's Christian but because, technically, it's crap. He's found one trait (the light) that's necessary among many, many others for a painting to be good and has used it as a substitute for everything else. It would be like a pianist eschewing everything else in the technical repertoire but the trill, "He's a wonderful artist! Have you ever heard anyone do a trill like that!" "But that's all he does! Everything else is degraded or missing." "You're just saying that because he's a Christian!"

A "classic style" may survive the ages, but Kinkade's enduring claim to fame will be his abuse of this style.
54 posted on 04/07/2012 7:07:51 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: katiedidit1; tanknetter; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ...

Thanks, a couple of his better ones.


55 posted on 04/07/2012 7:20:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: tanknetter

Whoops. Thanks tanknetter, “Cape Neddick” looked uncharacteristic of Kincade’s, I just didn’t read carefully.


56 posted on 04/07/2012 7:22:05 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: tanknetter
I love, LOVE, LOVE 'Cape Neddick Dawn'.
57 posted on 04/07/2012 7:25:36 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: boatbums

This one’s big. Look at the sticker the woman is wearing.
http://www.defense.gov/DODCMSShare/NewsStoryPhoto/2005-10/20051021164934_kinkade.jpg

If people haven’t been able to see a Kinkade original, please see if you can. Yes, many of us have prints or other sundries, but the real McCoys really are something to see. There’s an archive in Monterey.


58 posted on 04/07/2012 7:25:41 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: combat_boots

59 posted on 04/07/2012 7:30:12 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: lupie

Amen!


60 posted on 04/07/2012 7:52:34 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: lupie

So your spiritual gift is to dash the good thoughts of others... bully for you my friend, bully for you... impetuousness is not a spiritual gift.


61 posted on 04/07/2012 8:00:31 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: dps.inspect
o your spiritual gift is to dash the good thoughts of others... bully for you my friend, bully for you... impetuousness is not a spiritual gift.

Actually, the only GOOD thing comes from above - and that always points to the sufficiency of Christ Jesus and to the need of man for repentance for man's works. To say that God NEEDS a man in heaven for whatever reason is to undermine the holiness and sovereignty of God. It may seem to you that it is "dashing" the good thoughts of someone, but if those those are dashing the character of God then they are not "good" thought. Oh, they might be pleasant ones to people's ear, but not to God.

Actually, topping my spiritual gifts are discernment and the speaking out of God's truth. Not popular ones by any means to those who cling to man-centered and not God-centered ideas - which is always our nature to want to do until He brings us into repentance. Why do you think that is impetuous? Why the name calling?

62 posted on 04/07/2012 8:22:41 AM PDT by lupie
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To: aruanan
The reason a lot of people who know art dislike most of Kinkade's work of the past 30 years is not because he's Christian but because, technically, it's crap. He's found one trait (the light) that's necessary among many, many others for a painting to be good and has used it as a substitute for everything else. It would be like a pianist eschewing everything else in the technical repertoire but the trill, "He's a wonderful artist! Have you ever heard anyone do a trill like that!" "But that's all he does! Everything else is degraded or missing." "You're just saying that because he's a Christian!"

My daughter - both a very strong Christian and an accomplished art teacher told me pretty much the same thing years ago.

Personally, I think his art mimicks pantheism and New Age more than Christianity.

63 posted on 04/07/2012 8:26:11 AM PDT by lupie
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To: aruanan

Ah, the artist’s critique, there are dozens of us out here, I assure you... The age old question, what is art? Hence, who is an artist? In the case of Mr. Kincade, his use or misuse of a “style”, was his style, whether borrowed or original, he has made his impression on this world. He is envied by many would be artists; his work had a demand, and he died selling his work, something many artists only dream about. Poor is the artist who screams, “THIS IS ART”, for it expresses a depravity no other medium can. Many may side with his definition, but few would actually buy his “stuff”. Say what you will, Kincade’s work whether art or craft, will fill at least one page of art history, ten, twenty, probably 100 years from now... our work most probably, will not.


64 posted on 04/07/2012 8:26:37 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: lupie

Look up the term impetuous... it is a “youthful” trait. One that takes no notice of even the God given goodness that abounds in others, but mistakes it for worldly rubbish. Be careful that you are so heavenly minded that you are of no earthly good... I know our answer, save it.


65 posted on 04/07/2012 8:35:52 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: combat_boots

Beautiful! as for me..I prefer looking at a picture that is soothing and worth looking at..Kinkade had that talent imo and I could care less what anyone elese thinks about his paintings. I am and always will be a big fan of the Painter of Light.
God blessed this man with such a gift and he shared it with the world.


66 posted on 04/07/2012 8:40:04 AM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: dps.inspect
Look up the term impetuous... it is a “youthful” trait

LOL - that is the first time in a VERY long time that someone has called me youthful in regard to either my physical or my spiritual life. : )

Be careful that you are so heavenly minded that you are of no earthly good

Can you show me the contextual scriptural foundation for such a statement? It seems to me quite the opposite of what the Word of God teaches. I am curious to see the basis of that statement.

67 posted on 04/07/2012 9:19:36 AM PDT by lupie
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To: sphinx
Norman Rockwell is a good comparison. The fact that he was reviled by the art establishment is a point in his favor.

They also reviled Andrew Wyeth, whose paintings are divine.

68 posted on 04/07/2012 10:16:44 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: lupie

“Youthful” is a euphemism for immature... sorry to be so blunt... citing chapter and verse may earn you points in a bible quiz but I’m not certain it is needed every time you engage in discussion. No, of course there is no scripture to pull from to back these words, “don’t be so heavenly minded...”. I learned them while in bible college, meaning, you can cite chapter and verse all day long, and without effect, because sometimes what is needed is concern of the individual, not a sermon or homily.

When I said I knew your response, I knew: A. You couldn’t resist responding; B. Almost to the “t” the wording of your response, and C. You must respond again... to win.


69 posted on 04/07/2012 1:44:57 PM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: lupie

Lighten up


70 posted on 04/07/2012 3:45:28 PM PDT by zwerni (this isn't gonna be good for business)
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To: HarleyD
We loved his paintings as well until we talked to some of the dealers. Apparently he would force dealers into selling his inventory. In many cases some of the dealers went bankrupted. We never bought a Kinkade and after that I could never bring myself to consider purchasing one.

I don't understand Christians who act this way. In the end, we take nothing with us as he has just found out.

Thomas Kinkade Lawsuit


Thanks for the link.
71 posted on 04/07/2012 5:49:54 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Notary Sojac
But I have Lautrec and Magritte prints on my office and living room wall, and yeah, I'd be embarrassed to put a Kinkade up next to them. It's almost like taste is a personal thing or sumpin....

What's the saying, "Different strokes for different folks"?There are a few Lautrecs I like, though most appeared he had an obsession with the Moulin Rouge, Vaudville and cat-houses and bars in general. This one is nice:

And this:

Magritte is a lot like Dali, surrealistic and weird. I went to the Salvador Dali museum in St. Petersburg, Florida and was amazed at his work. For the most part, he painted like he was taking LSD but some of them were remarkable. I prefer realistic art like Renoir and Monet. I guess that is why Kinkade appealed to me - not all of his work, but quite a bit.

This is a Magritte I like:


72 posted on 04/07/2012 8:35:48 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

I have many of Thomas Kinkades paintings. I love them and now they will mean more to me than ever. The novels that he co-authored are great too.
God be with his family. He is with the Light of Light’s tonight!!


73 posted on 04/07/2012 8:39:16 PM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: dps.inspect

Inept kitsch doesn’t last and doesn’t enter history books! (If I’m wrong, show me an art history book which admiringly cites kitsch from 100 and 200 years ago.) Kinkade’s kitsch has been successful only because of marketing. (Still, it bankrupted many Kinkade franchised gallery owners.) There are many American artists that even the buyers of Kinkade prints (yes, they are all prints, with dabbles of paint made by slave workers in his San Jose factory) could appreciate, yet they starve, because all art, music, literature in this country have been industrialized and sold by marketing organizations, like toothpaste and cereal. Trash is trash and our duty to ourselves is to learn the difference between , say, Kenny G, and James Galloway.


74 posted on 04/07/2012 8:51:00 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!

So the terms art and artist, are reserved for whomever the self appointed gatekeepers of the “fine” arts say they are... highfalutin bull-schtick!


75 posted on 04/08/2012 4:15:04 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: lupie

lupie, lighten up. Sorry I offended you, but in my world we are all sinners and God forgives sinners. I don’t know Kincades heart, I know “I” liked his paintings and they were always respectful of my savior. Have a wonderful Easter.


76 posted on 04/08/2012 11:51:30 AM PDT by marygam ((Hurry November 2012, we might not make it))
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