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Santorum Backers Look to Change Texas Primary Rules
The Texas Tribune ^ | April 5, 2012 | Jay Root

Posted on 04/05/2012 6:40:06 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands

Rick Santorum, trying to keep his presidential hopes alive despite increasingly long odds, is looking for the political equivalent of a Hail Mary pass from Texas Republicans.

Santorum has noted in recent days that some Texas party activists are waging an uphill battle to change the rules of the May 29 primary so that whoever wins would get all 152 delegates up for grabs in the contest. The activists, led by Santorum supporters, say they have enough support to force an emergency meeting of the State Republican Executive Committee, though major hurdles loom beyond that.

The Republican National Committee would have to approve the last-ditch move to change the delegate selection process because of the late date of the request, officials say. An RNC official in Washington, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Thursday that would be highly unlikely. Later, the RNC communications director, Sean Spicer, said there is "no basis" for a change and that Texas would "remain a proportional state," according to a posting on Twitter from The Washington Post.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: santorum; texasprimary
The RNC will be the fly in the ointment in this, I would imagine. However, it would even the playing field somewhat. It seems that red states (mostly won by Santorum) have been proportional, whereas blue states (mostly won by Romney) have been winner-take-all.

Here is an e-mail that I received today from the Santorum campaign:

I am emailing you to share some important news that will reset this race.

In Texas the Republican Party is moving today to change the primary there on May 29th to winner-take-all, meaning all 155 delegates will be up for grabs and awarded to the popular vote winner.

If our campaign wins Texas, and we will, the delegate gap with Mitt Romney will have closed dramatically and this campaign will head to the convention and be decided there. If we do not, our grassroots, issue based campaign together for a better America will end in the Lone Star state (hopefully nowhere near the Alamo).

Between now and the Texas we must do everything we can to make sure we win in places like Pennsylvania later this month and in states such as Kentucky and Arkansas so that we are able to sustain our momentum until Texas has a chance to vote.

Let me be clear: the final goal of our campaign is the defeat of Barack Obama. That's why I ran for President in the first place and it is why I am continuing in this race until at least Texas.

I firmly believe Mitt Romney's support for his Massachusetts health care mandate, Cap and Trade and the bailouts make him unelectable in the fall. We cannot afford a nominee that does not stand strong for our conservative principles.

We need a principled, Reagan conservative to challenge Barack Obama in the fall and nothing less.

Proud to stand with Rick,

Mike Biundo
Campaign Manager

P.S. Help us build our warchest for Texas and Pennsylvania. Make a donation of $25 or more today if you want to see a strong conservative challenge Barack Obama in the fall!

1 posted on 04/05/2012 6:40:14 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

I’m proud to stand with Rick....and sending donations too!


2 posted on 04/05/2012 6:44:43 PM PDT by Guenevere (....Whom God calls,... He equips......Press On Santorum!)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

At the same time Rick Santurom is seeking to shift Texas to winner take all, he is saying Arizona and Florida should be shifted to proportional representation.


3 posted on 04/05/2012 6:44:56 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

With all the RNC shenanigans that have already been done on Romney’s behalf, I can’t imagine this would go down without a fight. Expect this to be hotly contested if not quickly quashed.


4 posted on 04/05/2012 6:46:23 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: Redmen4ever

At the same time Rick Santurom is seeking to shift Texas to winner take all, he is saying Arizona and Florida should be shifted to proportional representation.

Exactly, this is politics.


5 posted on 04/05/2012 6:49:19 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Redmen4ever
At the same time Rick Santurom is seeking to shift Texas to winner take all, he is saying Arizona and Florida should be shifted to proportional representation.

I think that, in part, it has to do with an April 1st deadline. I think that any primary prior to April 1st was, according to RNC, to be proportional. There will be a floor fight at the convention about that. After April 1st, the state gets to decide whether it is proportional or winner-take-all, but I think that the RNC has to approve any late changes.
6 posted on 04/05/2012 6:53:46 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands (Mitt Romney is a handbasket driver. I refuse to ride.)
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To: Guenevere
Its not like Romney has any room to complain, his people changed the delegate allocation rules after the vote in Michigan.

The Michigan Republican Party (MRP) Credentials Committee voted 4-2 last night to give Mitt Romney both of the state's at-large delegates, State Policy Committee Chair Mike Cox told MIRS today.

Cox was one of two "no" votes on the committee which met via telephone, along with attorney Eric Doster The "yes" votes included GOP National Committeeman Saul Anuzis, a Romney supporter, and MRP Chair Bobby Schostak.

That would put the delegate split at 16 for Romney and 14 for Rick Santorum, after each candidate won 14 delegates apiece in those divided by Michigan's 14 congressional districts.

As MIRS first reported on Wednesday, the MRP was delaying a final decision on the delegate split until after consulting with attorneys.

Cox said that according to the MRP rules, Santorum and Romney should each get one of Michigan's two at-large delegates based on their take of the popular vote.

"I supported Mitt, but the vote was clearly wrong," Cox said of the Credentials Committee. "It's kind of like Third World voting. We published rules and then we voted to change the rules."


Because The Narrative Cannot Survive A Rewrite
7 posted on 04/05/2012 7:08:22 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
There will be a floor fight at the convention about that.

No there won't. There isn't going to be any reason for a floor fight and Texas is not going to change their delegate rules anyway. By the end of the month the race will be completely over. Willard will be so far ahead that no one will even be paying attention to what remains of the primary process. There will be virtually no media coverage at all and Santorum may even lose his home state...again.

8 posted on 04/05/2012 7:13:13 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

I think the Texas Primary has been diddled around enough already!


9 posted on 04/05/2012 7:14:52 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: onyx

Read the whole article. I have a reason.


10 posted on 04/05/2012 7:21:32 PM PDT by Marcella (Vote Newt; Newt needs money)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Would love to hear what Gov Perry has to say about that...and of course the Bush family. Santorum will never take Texas


11 posted on 04/05/2012 7:43:29 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: 21twelve; Absolutely Nobama; AFPhys; afraidfortherepublic; AmericanInTokyo; ...
Santorum for President Ping List.

FReepmail “Antoninus” to be added or removed.

12 posted on 04/05/2012 7:55:31 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Last night we had the Santorum headquarters opening in Nebraska. It was great. He has a lot of volunteers. He will easily take Nebraska and Texas, but it will change everything if winner takes all. Pray! Pray! Pray!
13 posted on 04/05/2012 8:07:26 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Yep, just like Obama and Romney...change the rules so you can win.


14 posted on 04/05/2012 8:34:40 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Longbow1969
"By the end of the month the race will be completely over."

Bullsh!t.

This race is completely over now and only the delusional deny it.

15 posted on 04/05/2012 8:37:45 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Now wait just a minute. Did you miss where Steele said he purposefully rigged the rules to make it so that there would be a brokered convention?

Right from the beginning, this whole primary was at worst designed to get it to the floor, or at best get Romney as the nominee.

Now I do think the rules change thing from the Santorum camp is a fiasco waiting to happen, but it is mighty suspicious that all of the blue states are winner take all and the red states are proportional.

We have GOT to stop Romney.


16 posted on 04/05/2012 8:40:59 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Media doesn't report, It advertises. So that last advertisement you just read, what was it worth?)
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To: Guenevere

Let’s REALLY stir it up now! Romney and the elite will not like this at all. Karl Rove is extremely sad. I say, let us go ABSOLUTELY 100% “Ronald Reagan/Texas” on them. They deserve it. I so detest that arrogant wing of the Big Tent. Let us put them in their place with a victory by the Anti-Romney!! Eagles UP!!


17 posted on 04/05/2012 8:42:34 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Archiving the most VIRULENT, FACT-FILLED Anti-Romney FR Articles (So Many of them) For Later Release)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Be careful what you ask for, Santorum fans.
Romney could take Texas if it looks like he’s the leading candidate, which is likely by late may (if its not already over). WTA would seal the nomination for him then.


18 posted on 04/05/2012 8:47:20 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: katiedidit1; Marcella; onyx; Linda Frances

Changing rules in a snit over Romney dissing the Texas debate, or because some candidate is desperate to advantage himself is a bridge that first needs some recon before cliff jumping.

What works for making one (SREC) feel better during one single election, or assuages the desperation of a single candidate (Santorum) during one single election, doesn’t seem like the best of grounds for going to winner-take-all.

If every state were a winner-take-all, this would be over already and RINOS who come in to the races with all the money and all the backing could crush all conservatives early who never have it. The proportional arrangement is certainly fair to all candidates and allows for a protest block of delegates to go all the way to convention.

I was against this on an earlier thread when the “emergency meeting” was not even linked to Santorum, so it’s not my bias for Newt and not Rick.

I can be persuaded, but in a chaotic atmosphere I am not sold by a long shot. Proportional is the only arrangement that keeps conservative candidates alive until they can grow some legs against the Establishment candidates they keep sending us.


19 posted on 04/05/2012 8:47:57 PM PDT by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT.)
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To: katiedidit1

Gloomy Gus, you are probably right, ROmney will win it; but at the moment, Santorum is a little bit ahead of Romney in the polls. And if Gingrich continues to fade, Santorum’s lead should grow.


20 posted on 04/05/2012 8:52:11 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: AmericanInTokyo

While a huge thrill in combat, the winner-take-all arrangement for Texas overlooks future risk for short term gain and satisfaction.

Consider the changing demographics in Texas. Consider the Establishment keeps financing RINOS, who enter the race with all the odds, all the money and all the support.

Where is Texas in the next election, should the SREC be composed of a minority of conservatives instead of a majority of conservatives? Winner-take-all leaves conservatives without a protest block of delegates to say a RINO.

I am not so quick to buy into the national arguement that 150 delegates gives Texas clout. It may give them heart ache also.

In that case, proportional rules allow for a protest block of delegates who can go all the way to convention.


21 posted on 04/05/2012 8:57:57 PM PDT by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
"Santorum has noted in recent days that some Texas party activists are waging an uphill battle to change the rules of the May 29 primary so that whoever wins would get all 152 delegates up for grabs in the contest. "

What happened to the other three delegates?

22 posted on 04/05/2012 9:11:09 PM PDT by matthew fuller (The Magic Mormon is now in position to re-elect the Magic Negro.)
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To: RitaOK
"I am not so quick to buy into the national arguement that 150 delegates gives Texas clout. It may give them heart ache also. "

What happened to the other 5 delegates?

23 posted on 04/05/2012 9:27:47 PM PDT by matthew fuller (The Magic Mormon is now in position to re-elect the Magic Negro.)
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To: matthew fuller

I round. :)


24 posted on 04/05/2012 9:35:40 PM PDT by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

This election is making me sick. It’s (unfortunately) going to come down to d-bag ‘A’ vs. d-bag ‘Romney’.

Can we bring back 1980?


25 posted on 04/05/2012 10:22:24 PM PDT by digital-olive
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

This will do nothing to warm my heart toward Santorum. Winner-take-all contests are an open invitation to machine politics IMHO.


26 posted on 04/05/2012 11:01:46 PM PDT by GVnana (Newt 2012 - He Speaks for Us)
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To: Marcella; onyx; katiedidit1; Mariner; All; Antoninus; Lazlo in PA; napscoordinator; ...
10 posted on Thu Apr 05 2012 21:21:32 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by Marcella (Vote Newt; Newt needs money): “Read the whole article. I have a reason.”

Was this the reason?

“The change might also require approval from the U.S. Department of Justice.”

If that statement is correct, President Obama gets a vote in setting the Republican Party primary rules.

11 posted on Thu Apr 05 2012 21:43:29 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by katiedidit1: “Would love to hear what Gov Perry has to say about that...and of course the Bush family. Santorum will never take Texas.”

I am no expert in Texas Republican politics but I would agree with Katiedidit1 that I'd love to know what Perry and the Bush family think about this change.

Perhaps the most important question is what the Gingrich campaign thinks about this rule change. My guess is that much will depend on what happens in Pennsylvania.

This campaign is very close to being over. Unfortunately, if Mitt Romney is the nominee, the general election may also be over. I would certainly hope that conservatives who are strongly opposed to Mitt Romney would concur that stopping Romney is something worth fighting for.

Barring a radical game change -- an obvious example would include a late decision by Gingrich and his two endorsers, Perry and Cain, to publicly call for a Santorum vote to stop Romney -- this race is probably over. A win by Santorum in Pennsylvania could generate the momentum required to win in Texas on May 29, and that could put California's June 5 primary into serious contention.

I'm going to share something from what may be considered ancient history. In the 1980 presidential campaign, Michigan Gov. Bill Milliken was so upset by what he considered to be the likely victory of an unelectable candidate that he pulled out all the stops and mobilized all the resources at his disposal to deliver Michigan for a last-ditch candidate who he considered to be the only hope of a Republican victory in the 1980 elections against a deeply unpopular Democrat. In Gov. Milliken's mind, and that of many others in Michigan Republican Party leadership, the nomination of the frontrunner would pull defeat from the jaws of victory and it was worth the effort to keep the frontrunner from winning.

Who was that longshot last-ditch candidate? George H.W. Bush, the moderate Republican who won Michigan but was then defeated by a massive Reagan victory in what was then a winner-take-all California primary.

Nearly everyone on Free Republic believes Milliken was wrong in fighting Ronald Reagan. My point is that the Mitt Romney wing of the Republican Party has been willing to fight last-ditch battles before -- and I think Romney is fully aware of his own family's history in fighting last-ditch battles when he believes losing the presidential race to a Democrat is at stake.

FYI, here's the remaining primary schedule from Election Central:

http://www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com/2012-republican-primary-schedule/

April 24, 2012
Connecticut 28 delegates (Primary)
Delaware 17 delegates (Primary)
New York 95 delegates (Primary)
Pennsylvania 72 delegates (Primary)
Rhode Island 19 delegates (Primary)

May 8, 2012
Indiana 46 delegates (Primary)
Thanks to a recount reversing the previous report, Rick Santorum will indeed qualify to be on the Indiana ballot. See this report from the Indy Star on the recount of signatures.
North Carolina 55 delegates (Primary)
West Virginia 31 delegates (Primary)

May 15, 2012
Nebraska 35 delegates (Primary)
Oregon 28 delegates (Primary)

May 22, 2012
Arkansas 36 delegates (Primary)
Kentucky 45 delegates (Primary)

May 29, 2012
Texas 155 delegates (Primary)
Due to litigation regarding redistricting, the April 3 date for the Texas primary has been changed to May 29. See this report.

June 5, 2012
California 172 delegates (Primary)
Montana 26 delegates (Primary)
New Jersey 50 delegates (Primary)
New Mexico 23 delegates (Primary)
South Dakota 28 delegates (Primary)

June 26, 2012
Utah 40 delegates (Primary)

27 posted on 04/06/2012 3:24:38 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: matthew fuller; Engraved-on-His-hands
22 posted on Thu Apr 05 2012 23:11:09 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by matthew fuller: “(quoting Engraved-on-his-hands): ‘Santorum has noted in recent days that some Texas party activists are waging an uphill battle to change the rules of the May 29 primary so that whoever wins would get all 152 delegates up for grabs in the contest.’ What happened to the other three delegates?”

Engraved-on-his-hands can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the three additional delegates are the state's superdelegates who, according to Republican Party rules, are selected by virtue of office and are not bound to vote for any candidate.

28 posted on 04/06/2012 3:32:17 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

It seems like it would be fair to do this. Isn’t the primary late enough that it should be winner-take-all? Wasn’t Florida so early that it should have been proportional?

Isn’t that the general rule: if early, proportional, if late, winner-take-all?


29 posted on 04/06/2012 3:40:28 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: darrellmaurina
Perry and the Bush family

They are not allies within the party; Bushes look down on Perry.

30 posted on 04/06/2012 8:06:57 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people have again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
YES!!!!!!!!...I'm in Texas visiting right now and I've brought along my SANTORUM bumper sticker AND a big ole sign !!!!!

I'll do my part!!!

31 posted on 04/06/2012 8:39:23 AM PDT by Guenevere (....Whom God calls,... He equips......Press On Santorum!)
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To: matthew fuller

“What happened to the other three delegates?”

They are super delegates not bound to any candidate.


32 posted on 04/06/2012 10:15:52 AM PDT by Marcella (Vote Newt; Newt needs money)
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To: matthew fuller

“What happened to the other three delegates?”

They are super delegates not bound to any candidate.


33 posted on 04/06/2012 10:17:42 AM PDT by Marcella (Vote Newt; Newt needs money)
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To: Theodore R.; All
30 posted on Fri Apr 06 2012 10:06:57 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by Theodore R.: “They are not allies within the party; Bushes look down on Perry.”

Yes, and that's why this could get very interesting if Perry decides he wants to change the rules and GHW Bush doesn't.

I'm very much aware that Perry endorsed Gingrich. Will he change that endorsement? Will Gingrich endorse Santorum to stop Romney? I don't know the answers to those questions, and I don't know Texas politics well enough to even guess, but I would think the rule change won't happen without its supporters being seen as being de facto Santorum supporters.

A decision by Perry and/or Gingrich to endorse Santorum would sent an extremely clear message to Mitt Romney that he does not have the support of the base of the Republican Party, and to the Republican establishment that significant parts of the party leadership are not willing to accept Romney without a major, major fight.

The Republican Party already has a civil war going on internally between the RINOs, the establishment, and several different categories of social, economic and national defense conservatives, but Romney's massive use of cash in the campaign has disguised that civil war in public because he's been able to destroy his opponents’ polling numbers.

The difference between party regulars and primary voters is that the party regulars have firmly decided what they believe and the attack ads aren't going to work in most cases. Yes, many party regulars are what we like to call GOP-e (i.e., elitists). But that isn't the case at the precinct and county level in many cases, Romney needs that type of supporter to win, and a major revolt in Texas will telegraph a message to the rest of the country, not just the people paying attention on Free Republic, that the conservative movement is not at all happy with Romney and lots of people are refusing to follow in line to back the presumptive nominee.

What will happen in Texas is anyone’s guess but I suspect nothing will happen if Santorum loses Pennsylvania.

34 posted on 04/06/2012 10:44:49 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Marcella

Thanks.


35 posted on 04/06/2012 11:01:53 AM PDT by matthew fuller (The Magic Mormon is now in position to re-elect the Magic Negro.)
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To: Redmen4ever

That’s because Florida and Arizona before April 1st. Texas was originally set to vote March 6th, but due to delays in redistricting got shoved back to May 29th where a proportional primary makes zero sense.


36 posted on 04/06/2012 4:20:45 PM PDT by Keyes2000mt
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To: Guenevere

Welcome ...We are so happy to have you visit.


37 posted on 04/09/2012 6:26:51 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: DallasSun

Thank-you!—I love Texas!!!


38 posted on 04/09/2012 8:25:08 PM PDT by Guenevere (....Whom God calls,... He equips......Press On Santorum!)
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To: Guenevere

And Texas loves you, Guennie! We would love to have you visit San Antonio someday. If you do, try to visit the missions, esp the Mission San Jose with the Rose Window. It is beautiful, as they all are.
Also, I am praying for the Santorum family, esp that precious child.


39 posted on 04/10/2012 7:59:05 AM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: DallasSun
I'm in West Texas right now, but have visited San Antonio twice....to see the Alamo.

It's an awesome, chill bump testimonial to patriotism, bravery and conviction.

...and being from the Volunteer State of Tennessee, we sent quite a few of our guys there to help out.

Their blood and ashes are mingled with those of Texas.

40 posted on 04/10/2012 8:55:56 PM PDT by Guenevere (....Whom God calls,... He equips......Press On Santorum!)
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To: Guenevere

The heroes from Tennessee are well represented at the Alamo. I am so glad you have visited the chapel.


41 posted on 04/11/2012 3:01:05 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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