Posted on 04/01/2012 8:57:49 PM PDT by JSDude1
There is growing talk that if former House Speaker Newt Gingrich drops out of the race and "suspends" his campaign, he may throw his support behind Rick Santorum in an effort to deny Mitt Romney the GOP nomination.
And, for the moment, Gingrich is not yielding to the slew of establishment endorsements for Mitt Romney.
Gingrich told CBS News' "Face the Nation" Sunday that Romney has no lock on the nomination and the math doesn't show him getting the 1,144 delegates easily to clinch the nomination.
A leading Gingrich campaign official also suggested this weekend that their camp may work with Santorum to stop Romney from getting the nomination as the former House Speaker made clear he could back either Santorum or Romney if they were to win the nomination.
"If Rick Santorum becomes the nominee, I'll help him," Gingrich said. "We are all committed to defeating Barak Obama. We think his re-election would be a disaster for the country."
(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...
Agreed. Obama would get under Rick’s skin by circling back to Rick’s social statements or making ridiculous claims and Rick would lose his cool, meaning Obama would win.
I’m voting for Gingrich in Texas. I vote for the person that I think can do the best job and who supports my values. After watching a couple debates and listening to the criticism from both his fellow candidates and hearing that the Dem. party all but fear him, thinking of an Obama Gingrich debate (without a teleprompter), is music to my ears. When McCain debated (??) Obama, it was just embarrassing to watch and hear his pitiful answers. Newt has the wisdom, knowledge and leadership to turn America’s train wreck if given the chance. We need some shocking work done and he can do it I am convinced. I am supporting him because he is going all the way to the convention and proving our conservative values must not be thrown away with an establishment candidate.
Doesn’t float my boat.
Agreed, if that’s the deal, Newt as VP - signed, sealed and delivered - let’s get R done.
This has been a long time in coming, should have been done earlier, but at least now we can stop Mittens.
Do you believe what Obama campaign say?
Well, just stop going to work. Stop having children. Stop saving money. Stop paying for your house... what a stupid thing to write.
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I didn’t say stop living just because life will never be like the 50’s again. Anyone who thinks it will is delusional. But, just so you know; I don’t go to work, I’m retired. My kids are all grown and on their own. I’ve got plenty of money saved because my wife and I are smart money managers. My home, acreage and both vehicles are paid for. So, old gal, how you like that? Now; who’s stupid? I’ve got more sense in the northeast corner of my a** than you have in your head. Now, you have a good day!
Was up early this AM praying for Rick and the Santorum family.
Karen gave an outstanding interview on Fox this weekend!!----She is amazingly genuine.....I just love her.
In this case yes, because it was apparently overheard by others and not something that was being reported. Either or we know they don’t want a Newt/Obama debate without saying anything at all. It’s common knowledge Newt would be all over Obama and he simply would not survive the exposure Newt would reveal.
This headline is bogus. It is only something the writer of this opinion added in. There is not talk of a shared ticket. Only that Newt has announced that he will support whom ever is the nominee. Newt just reaffirmed this claim on Meet the Press and FOX News.
I will also predict, that after tomorrow, and the kind of win that Romney will have, is going to force Newt to make that choice sooner. It will make Newt's effort impossible, and Santorum's as good as impossible. Newt's Super PAC supporter will also move over to Romney shortly after.
Newt will support Romney. He is not that stupid to believe that Santorum has a Snow Ball's chance in Hell of beating Obama. Even with him as the VP. After all, Newt loves his country above all else and will do what is best for it.
I think Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum get along much better than too many of their supporters.
That is **ESPECIALLY** true on the social issues. I cannot imagine that Gingrich, with his emphasis on the role of Christianity in the development of historic Judeo-Christian culture in the Western World, would say some of the things being said by some of his backers here on Free Republic. (And no, I'm not talking about the pro-Gingrich people on this ping; I mean others whose voices have been more loud than logical.)
Time is getting very short to stop Romney. I believe the District of Columbia race on Tuesday is the last one in which Gingrich is on the ballot but Santorum is not, and there's no state left (as far as I know) where Gingrich holds a polling advantage over Santorum.
The goal needs to be stopping Romney. I've been saying for months now that while I support Santorum, I could live with Gingrich, and since it's been consistently shown that Gingrich and Santorum both have a minority of supporters who will vote for Romney if their candidate pulls out, until Tuesday, it makes sense for Gingrich and Santorum to stay in the race.
After Tuesday, especially if Gingrich can convince some of his key prior endorsers such as Herman Cain and Rick Perry to concur, it may be time for a united “anti-Romney” ticket of four and possibly five prior Republican candidates to all declare that they oppose Romney and call on conservatives nationwide to back a unified conservative ticket.
At this last date, that probably requires a pre-announcement of a vice-presidential choice between Gingrich and Santorum, and pre-announcement of cabinet positions for Perry, Cain, and (possibly) Michele Bachmann.
Is that possible? I think it is.
Cain has nothing to lose for backing an anti-Romney ticket. Gingrich and Bachmann have pretty much burned their bridges with the Republican establishment so it won't hurt them any more than their prior actions already have done. Perry's focus has traditionally been on Texas rather than Washington and I don't claim to understand Texas politics, but from what I read about Perry's fights with the Bush family, I can't see him having a major problem with being on the opposite side of a GHW Bush endorsement of Romney.
Is this a pipe dream? I don't know.
I do know that if something is not done very soon to create a “game change,” Romney is going to be the nominee, and then we as Republicans have a massive mess on our hands.
Let's do whatever we can to stop that now with the little time we have left.
I’ve been posting here since at least a week before the Illinois primary that one of them needed to drop out and start campaigning with the other one if they had any chance to defeat Romney. That is due to the winner-take-all rules in Illinois and many upcoming Romney-favorable states. Combining their votes would defeat Romney in some states and districts where Romney would otherwise win. It would also allow them to get over 50% in some states where Romney would already lose, which would shut Romney out of any delegates at all due to the 50% threshold rule.
The sum total of Rick and Newt could’ve been greater than its parts. The polls in this primary have often shown that people like aspects of each candidate, but also find flaws in all of them. They wish they could combine all the candidates into one. Newt and Rick could have pulled that off by joining forces. They would counterbalance each other’s flaws and look like a better ticket to many people up against Romney.
However, if Romney wins Wisconsin then it’s almost definitely too late now. This would have probably had to happen before Illinois where Romney also won big. There are too many Romney-favorable states coming up now which he is going to win no matter what.
Neither Newt nor most of his supporters realized quickly enough that winner-take-all rules make a huge difference and that Newt being on a Santorum ticket is better than both of them losing to Romney.
So I guess that means that you want Romney to win, but cannot tolerate Santorum?
Sorry, but Romney is the worst candidate here, not Santorum, and not Gingrich.
...............[WI campaign director Robert]”Lorge said that in conference calls with the national team there has been discussion about the possibility of consolidating Santorum and Gingrich delegates at the Republican National Convention in order to overcome Romney’s delegate math.
“I imagine there’s going to be a lot of negotiation and compromising between the pro-Newt Gingrich and the pro-Rick Santorum delegates,” he said. “You may have a Newt Gingrich-Rick Santorum ticket. You may have a Rick Santorum-Newt Gingrich ticket. Nobody knows how that ticket’s going to work out. But I imagine it’ll end up being something like that.”
Pointing to Gingrich’s accomplishments in the House, Lorge believes delegates will see that his candidate is the only one with the experience necessary to be the White House.
“America is a republic,” Lorge said. “We’re not a democracy. We don’t believe in mob rule. We hire people by electing them to represent us. We’re a representative democracy, that’s what we talk about. Our Founding Fathers were very wise in not having a straight, pure democracy. We have a republic for a reason so that wiser decisions, calm decisions can be made in the best interest of the nation as a whole and that is what Newt Gingrich is all about.”
The amount of chaos and strategy that would be involved in the open convention scenario is so mentally demanding that it’s hard to imagine any other candidate but Newt Gingrich believing it is possible. And perhaps the reckless challenge of it all is giving the candidate a new skip in his step.”......
http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2012/03/30/gingrich-camp-talks-shared-ticket-santorum
That’s fine language for a Bible quoter. You suggested that we give up on the election because the end is near. Or did you forget that? Maybe I should have quoted you. It seems the north end of your bottom is losing it’s memory.
The article’s wrong when it suggests Romney needs to win “almost every” primary to get 1,144 delegates.
I gamed out the remaining list based on giving him his obvious WTA wins, 1/3rd of southern state proportional delegates, and 1/2 to 2/3rds of other proportional states based on how similar past states have voted. He gets well over 1,200 delegates.
Almost all the upcoming winner-take-all states (full state or by district) are favorable to Romney, not either of our guys, even those by-district states tend to become HUGE overall wins even if the winner only gets in the 40%s of votes. The only district-based states favorable to non-Romneys are PA and WV. Even blowouts there could only reduce his final delegate count but not enough to get him below 1,144.
It’s basically too late to stop Romney from winning, unless Rick and Newt pull off this magic behind-the-scenes maneuvering of getting delegates to switch their vote.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/republican_delegate_count.html
Thank you, JediJones. I’m afraid you’re right.
If I were President Obama, I’d be happy with the way things are working out in the Republican Party this year.
Sorry, my end all be all goal is NOT to stop Romney. Oh - don’t get me wrong - I don’t like him and I don’t want him as the nominee - but my goal was to get the brain and the accomplishments of Newt in the debates - into the election - into the national discussion - as the ONLY candidate we’ve had running in 28 years who could actually change minds of voters.
Rick just doesn’t strike me as capable of changing a single liberal or moderate into a conservative. He doesn’t strike me as capable of ginning up a big turn out. Doesn’t strike me as being revolutionary once in office. Sorry, I just don’t see it.
Thanks JediJones. It does appear as if Mitt has it locked up. However, I am delighted that Newt and Santorum are forcing him to fight for every delegate.
Newsmax is known for their headlines not always jiving with their articles content.
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