Posted on 03/27/2012 8:15:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Clearly it's his campaign manager and the staff who are the problem.
Alternate headline: “Gingrich finally approaching the fifth stage of grief.”
It’s largely a strategy of necessity: The former House Speaker is a distant third in delegates, behind Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum. His campaign-finance report for February, released last week, showed more debt ($1.55 million) than cash on hand ($1.54 million).
DeSantis said the former Speaker will continue to visit states with primaries, but will have a less intense campaign schedule. DeSantis promised that the campaign will be “more positive and ideas-focused,” eschewing attacks on Republican rivals. The aide said the campaign will be more digital, focusing on low-cost communications tools, including informational videos, social media and the web…
DeSantis elaborated on the announcement in an email: “Newt 2012 is transitioning into an organization appropriate for winning a big choice convention. This big choice convention phase will be focused on two goals. 1. Affecting the national dialogue to show that Gingrich is the most capable of defeating Obama, by leading on issues that put the president on defense – like Newt’s $2.50 Gas Plan; and 2. A parallel communications strategy directly to the delegates…
“Furthermore, the fact is the more than a million more people have voted against Mitt Romney than for him. We believe that if Governor Romney is unable to secure 1144 by the last primaries, he will be unable to do so at the convention where the vast majority of the delegates are conservative. That creates and environment at the convention where Gingrich can emerge as the one candidate who can unite social, economic and national security conservatives (a fact which is borne out by polling).”
Like I said in the earlier Gingrich post, that last paragraph is pure fantasy. If you’ve reached the point in a convention floor fight where, for whatever reason, both Romney and Santorum are deemed unacceptable, why wouldn’t you roll the dice on a dark horse outsider? You’re much better off with someone like Christie or Paul Ryan who’s young, appealing, superb on the seminal issue of fiscal reform, and yet to have their national image defined than you are with High-Negatives Newt. Passing over the guy with the most delegates and the guy with the second-most delegates means you’re thinking way out of the box on the nomination, which means there’s no reason to limit your choice to the people who are running. Although I guess choosing someone who hasn’t held elective office since the 90s and who can’t seem to win anywhere except his home state and the state next door would qualify as “way out of the box.” Way, way out.
I don’t know, guys. I’m starting to think maybe he really believes in this ludicrous convention idea. What other explanation is there? Exit question: Why on earth would he cite Romney’s vote total as relevant to the delegates’ calculus when Newt himself is much closer to Ron Paul’s total than to Romney’s?
Great. Just what we need. One more bleeding heart social conservative holding the reins of power. Come to Bamer and get you some more of that "Compassionate Conservatism".
Perry got beat up bad on that stuff.
Newt didnt, Cain didnt and Santorumn certainly didnt.
Now we are stuck with the weakest of the bunch.
Remember when Perry made gaffes? It was HUGE!!
Now they all make gaffs and NOBODY CARES!
Not even just gaffes, they spell it out and nobody cares!
You should’ve quit after the first weak reply.
BTW, Mitt and Santo are actively avoiding debates.
They have been for months.
Who cares. 22 official debates and a handful of one on ones not enough for you? If you don’t know where your candidate stands on issues by now, you aren’t paying attention.
Newt is BY FAR the most electable candidate against Barack Obama of the current 4 contenders for the nomination. He, alone among the candidates, has been able to put Obama on the ropes for a long, sustained period of time, over the energy issue. He helped actually push Obama’s poll numbers down to a painful level that made national news headlines.
Interviews in Lousiana showed many people liked Gingrich the best, but simply voted for Santorum out of strategy because they thought Newt couldn’t win. This is the same stuff we were hearing last Fall while Newt was low in the polls. People liked him, but didn’t think he could win the nomination, so they were backing someone else.
A lot of this is coming from RINO media mind control, Romney’s negative attack ads, etc. This stuff would not occur in the general election, at least I hope the Republicans wouldn’t undermine Newt in favor of Obama. If they would do that, then I CERTAINLY don’t want to nominate their hand-picked candidate anyway. Obama can only attack Newt from the left, not erroneously from the right trying to claim Newt’s a liberal like lying liberal RINO Romney does to all of his opponents.
Newt is also suffering because the debates have stopped. He would have 3 debates with Obama, which would almost certainly redefine him on the national stage the same way it redefined him in the primaries.
Newt can speak English, unlike Santorum. Newt is a real conservative contrast against Obama, unlike Romney. He has more policy depth than both Romney and Santorum put together.
If Newt’s had a weakness, it has been in his fundraising and money management. That is the advantage both Romney and Paul have had. They’ve run primary campaigns before and have a better handle on how to manage their resources. Again, the same amount of money is going to come in for any Republican nominee, more or less. So that isn’t a factor in the general. Some of the less informed Republican primary voters seem to think because Romney has more money now, that he would be able to raise significantly more money than any other Republican in the general campaign. That’s obviously not true.
The bottom line, Obama is most likely going to lose no matter who we put up. What we know for sure is that Gingrich would actually be THE MOST EFFECTIVE PRESIDENT of all of these men. He has the right experience, the right political beliefs, and the right guts for dealing with the left and with America’s enemies.
I think it’s probably essential that in most states, people vote for Santorum now. Votes need to be unified behind a single conservative in most states because Romney can only be denied enough delegates if one candidate is able to take advantage of winner-take-all rules, e.g. getting over 50% in states where that matters and winning winner-take-all districts where splitting the vote hands Romney all the delegates even when Santorum’s and Gingrich’s combined votes were higher. Santorum needs to get those delegates in order to deny Romney the nomination. But in a contested convention, I certainly hope that a ticket emerges with Newt’s name on it.
Umm Lazlo...
The entire mandate matter was not a mandate, It was a workround to give people the lowest price for the vaccine.
No one was mandated, but you knew that.
Illegals? Perry got beat up bad for a bill he could not veto that the state of Texas approved BECAUSE the Feds had us handcuffed with federal law.
But you knew that.
I know where your candidate stands.
That was given to his SuperPAC. Obviously we know Newt does not control how the SuperPAC spends its money and that money does not fund his campaign operations.
No candidate can realistically be expected to their name placed in nomination by garnering 7%, 6%, of the vote as Gingrich did in MI and MS, and where current polls show him at 5% in WI. He’s finished as a candidate. This is why we have primary contests. It’s now kaput. Over. It will either be Santorum (highly unlikely) or Romney (very likely). Time to face reality. Only real question is who will be the VP pick.
As my dear departed Grandpa would say, "That's a fact!"
I guess it was too bad he was incapable of verbalizing that to the voting public.
Well, Newtie has a plethora of strategerieys. One just has to select the winning ones.
See. We don't need any more debates. We both agree.
And there’s the rub.
“Only real question is who will be the VP pick.”
Bahahahaha! I wondered how long it would be before you gave up on your “Gingrich splitting the vote” nonsense, and admitted the real reason you want Newt out!
You don’t think Palin/Gingrich or Gingrich/Palin could make it into nomination? If Romney can be denied enough delegates, I think anything can happen. I don’t think this intense focus on Obamneycare is doing Romney any favors now. Santorum’s profane outburst pretty much disqualifies him as presidential material. For all the people who claimed Newt “whined” or was “angry,” I’m still waiting to see those clips, but I now have at least one of Santorum out-whining and out-angering any presidential candidate I can remember in my lifetime.
We’ve got a couple of terrible frontrunners. They can win ONLY by virtue of Obama being so terrible that people just want to get rid of him. Sort of the same way Obama himself got elected. So I’m not going to put it past the delegates to recognize the deep flaws in the frontrunners and turn to Newt if they get the chance.
Didn't the casino magnate's money go to the SuperPAC and not to Newt's campaign itself?
Campaigning is expensive. Salaries, hotels, airfare, advertising, etc. No money, no campaign.
There was a time when the other lesser candidates started dropping out, that an anti-Romney could have been successful. The problem is, Newt's ego and Santorum's obtuseness prevented either one of them from doing the right thing for the country, stepping aside and letting there be one conservative candidate to rally behind. Now, they have effectively split the conservative vote between themselves, and left Romney's campaign of attrition to march to a slow but steady victory.
The idea that either of these knuckleheads are going to be rewarded with anything other than a kick in the pants by the Rough Boot of Historical Footnotehood is laughable. Mittens was on Leno, joking that he might make Santorum his press secretary one day. Soon, Rick will look back on the time where people bothered to make him the butt of their jokes as 'the good old days'.
Sadly, the joke is on the rest of us. By their own reckless ambition, Rick and Newt have allowed Mitt to advance unchecked on to the nomination. If it comes down to a brokered convention, neither of them will be rewarded for it.
Newt all the way to the Convention. Lets see what happens.
The problem was that neither had any reason to drop out. The voters never really liked Newt and Santorum was never really a good candidate.
Santorum thought "I can't drop out for this guy, people just don't like him." And Newt thought "I can't drop out for this guy, he's just not a good candidate."
The problem was, they were both right.
“What’s Saintorums strategy?
“Zimmerman has a sick mind and committed a heinous crime?”
We are so screwed.”
Santorum is a lawyer? Unreal.
You know he could have issued a retraction and corrected himself, the honorable thing to do.
So far, nothing of the sort, so his initial statement stands.
Constitutional conservatives know better than to dismiss Santorum’s outragously disturbing comments so attuned with the lynch mob mentality of the left.
Folks, Obama’s racist lynch mob of hate is out for blood, and will stop at nothing to satiate their vengeful bloodsport.
And Santorum made it crystal clear he is with them in their lust for blood and treasure, brutally annihilating anyone who dares question them, in the name of “justice”.
The contrasts here, between those of us who realize the gravity of Santorum’s mentality, which reveal a willingness to subvert our justice system to it’s lowest level, and those who dismiss them out of hand as unimportant, are glaring.
” Rick Perry got trounced in the debates, Ricky S got ignored. Now there are no debates since he’s been sent to the front of the line. I would put Perry’s record against Santorum’s any day. “ -—
VERY well said. Santorum has had to recover from nothing, but for what he consistently does to himself, of course, when he opens his mouth.
If one asks, what about his wife’s story? THAT lasted but 24 hours if that, but oh, no, not Newt’s story, with the whacky wives. Unforgivable. Unstable. Unchanged.
What a crock full of gift horses for the Rickster, gift wrapped by Romney whom he endorsed in ‘08, his own pals at the GOP-E, and an exwife #2, against the only man qualified for the job.
I am not left for even a moment wondering why the US is in the shape it’s in, or why the qualified no longer run for office.
If Zimmerman is your big issue, then don’t vote for Rick. Romney will be listed on the ballot as well.
Post of the night.
If Romney is a democrat, by trade, which I believe him to be, he will want on his ticket some utilitarian vest, whom he knows will pose no significant challenge to the democrats in ‘16.
Newt has never been utilitarian for anyone and he doesn’t even attempt to wear a vest.
To a certain extent, I would agree completely. If it were a two man race. In our particular scenario, two man logic doesn't apply. Mitt was always the man to beat. Any calculation had to factor him in first, and others second.
Rick and Newt may have accurately assessed on their own that the other guy was a flawed candidate in some way. Fair enough. They're both flawed candidates. But the point they should have been looking at was, 'is the other conservative guy in the race better than Mitt Romney?'
Now Mitt has the initiative, and the conservative side remains fractured and divided. Since nobody is going to drop out, our side will remain fractured and divided, and Mitt's initiative will translate into inevitability.
That’s self righteous Rick’s style - condemn no matter what the facts are. He’s done it to Newt, he’ll do to anyone. He’s the most blow ‘whatever way the wind blows’ candidate, a compromiser of the worst kind.
>> “Only real question is who will be the VP pick.”
Well, that didn’t take much...
The entirety of Rick’s campaign has been about moral vanity in my opinion. This superficial rush of what-is-right has cost us dearly. To his credit, Rick rode it well.
Of course I’m hoping for the crap-shoot of a brokered convention. I’d love to see Sarah and Paul Ryan in the mix.
BTW, Rick’s a good man, but not the man for the job. God bless him and his family. Ultimately, we’re on the same team (just not Team Santorum ;)
Go Newt!
You can call it whatever fits your need but the fact remains he wasn't vetted and it's all designed before hand. He can't do the battle of being vetted and stand against trashing Newt at the same time as that's his main reason/assignment for being in the race to begin with.
It's about AMERICA, not about a two bit lawyer player to keep the GOP E in power - the 'do it for the team' candidate supporting the worst of the worst against a conservative! He's vetted enough for those who can see but NOT for those who refuse to see.
And she voted for Newt!
Right on! It's Good vs. Evil. Evil is strong and has many in it's grasp (money/media/GOP E). Newt has the Truth and Evil has deception. Newt is the ONLY candidate that will get my vote. Evil will never bring me down to it's level!
I'm no fan of gutter language and I won't defend it.
But apart from using words which (unfortunately) have now become common vocabulary, how does what Santorum said attacking a reporter differ from Newt Gingrich's prior attack on media during the South Carolina debate, and numerous other prior attacks on media?
The only difference I can see is that Gingrich supporters like his attacks and don't think they're “unpresidential” but don't like Santorum’s attack so they call it “unpresidential” as well as “un-Christian.”
Few if any of us on this board believe in pacifism. Lots of Gingrich supporters said Santorum wasn't tough enough. Being a nice milquetoast pansy “meek and mild” guy isn't required by Scripture in any way — I can show numerous passages of Scripture that make Santorum’s comment look mild — and I fail to see how Santorum isn't being criticized here for doing the same thing Gingrich has been doing for a long time.
Again, I don't defend gutter language. But let's be consistent. Gingrich supporters can't blame Santorum for doing pretty much the same thing they praised Gingrich for doing.
Especially considering how trolls like you treated Sarah Palin.
Compare the size of the crowds she drew to the COMBINED turnout for the other candidates.
Don’t hold your breath for any objective criticism of Rick by Team Santorum. I’m reluctant to think of what it might take to produce the slightest disapproval for the man.
Because it isn’t about Santorum. This is a Newt thread. You guys have a choice now. Santorum or Romney and most of you will chose Romney which is what you wanted from the beginning. You all can come out of the Romney closet now.
Newt is BY FAR the most electable candidate against Barack Obama of the current 4 contenders for the nomination.
Such BS. He can’t even get people who agree with him vote for him. He is a terrible candidate and thank God voters know it. He is a has been guy who lives in the 90’s and does not provide a thing for today. A space station??? Oh brother. Haven’t heard much from him on that since Florida...wonder why? He just said that to get votes in Florida.
You clearly hate Santorum so vote for your Savior Romney who you wanted since day one anyway. You can stop pretending now.
What part of “I would put Perrys record against Santorums any day.” makes you think I support Romney?
Now that's class—Rick knows Newt is finished and can only help Mitt by staying in (the Left and the Romney campaign are thrilled Gingrich is still in to continue splitting the conservative vote even though he is pretty much irrelevant now and is not much of a factor except in providing cover for Mittbots so they can bash Santorum disguised as Newtons) but he is sensitive to Newt's humongous ego so he ain't gonna call for him to drop out.
So it no longer matters to me if a grasping at straws, embarrassing himself, staining his legacy, desperate for attention RINO enabling Ross Perot clone stays in or not either.
Then why has he done BY FAR the worst of any Republican candidate in dozens and dozens of matchup polls against Obama for months?
For the last month or so, of course, most of the polling groups haven't even bothered to include him in their matchup polling for obvious reasons...
Just another anti-Perry troll....put him on ignore. Santorum isn’t fit to hold Perry’s jockstrap.
Your response is bullsh*t!
It’s a done deal Romney-Santorum 2012.
Quite a ‘potty mouth’ on Ricky, huh? Parents should think very hard about letting their children listen to a man ( a presidential candidate no less) with a vocabulary like Santorums. Shameful.
Romney is not interested in Santorum. He brings nothing but holier-than-thou contraception is evil, Zimmerman is a criminal hogwash.
He is a phony and an impostor.
Of course those who are familiar with Newt never underestimate his plays, seen or unseen....Because it's never over for Newt until he says it is as he is determined to strike at Obama throughout this primary regardless of where he is in the ratings.....since this is such a wacky Primary it's best just to figure anything is possible between now and convention.
Every candidate has had people saying.."Time to go"...even Romney.....it's old and doesn't carry any weight at all for the candidates are going to do what they want to do regardless of what their opposition state.
Heck, had Santorum stepped out long ago Newt would be on top of this game and Obama would be shaking in his shoes. Every time Obama sets the bait Santorum jumps on it and comes out with egg on his face....he can't discern the traps.
Actually Newt is the only candidate Obama is responding to......truly sad people cannot see that Obama makes it clear who he doesn't want to go up against....his campaign people have even stated..."We don't want Obma/Newt debates".
It's a terrible mistake for people to state.."anybody can win over Obama". It isn't going to be about what people think ....it's going to be about how Obama plays the game, and his hands are more than dirty and the heavy hitting has been reserved for the General Election.. We've seen nothing yet by comparison to what they're going to bring against whoever opposes him.
What the Obama machine/with Romneys help did to Newt worked...along with the pimped out media carrying their water. You can bet money they are going to fine tune those tactics all the more for the general.
Neither Romney nor Santorum will win over Obama.....no doubt the Obama machine is armed and ready for both and sees them as easy targets....unfortunately at this point that's who is out in front....and for that we don't have a chance of winning the general outside of what hands are played and how at convention...if it reaches there.
Why could Newt survive a media blitz by Obama in the election but be destroyed by one in the Primaries? Are Republican primary voters more susceptible to Obama media blitzes than moderates and independents?
This whole discussion is a waste of time since there is not going to be brokered convention in the first place.
Why could Newt survive a media blitz by Obama in the election but be destroyed by one in the Primaries? Are Republican primary voters more susceptible to Obama media blitzes than moderates and independents?
This whole discussion is a waste of time since there is not going to be brokered convention in the first place.
Media block says it well. They've time and again refused to allow the people to hear Newt....because when they do Newt gets standing ovations each and every time.
Look, Obama has zip zero concern over Romney and Santorum. As soon as Newt rose the Obama machine with Romney and the Republican Elite brought everything they had against Newt to take him out. ..and he still stood. Their only recourse then was a media black out. And we know the media was more than happy to be pimped.
Additionally.....everybody is quite aware that Newt is outstanding and stands taller than any other in debates for his knowledge of events and his indepth awareness of who and what Obama is about,... and about to do if he gets four more years...... As well as his grasp on how the Republican elite operate and the media. He's had the whole arsenal aimed and firing at him from the get go...try and dodge all those bullets and see if any candidate could stand....yet Newt is still in the game.
The media black out of Newt is now what is keeping Newt at bay...."silence the opposition" if you will. If the people can't hear him then he isn't there while they focus attention on Romney, (who the establishment and liberals want), and give Santorum false hope that he's reflective of the party by the media giving him all the face time needed to make it appear he's the alternative to Romney. Sadly conservatives took the bait and so did Santorum... and are running with it.
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