Posted on 03/17/2012 9:53:56 AM PDT by redreno
SANFORD, Fla. (AP) -- Calls made to police show that a black teenager was terrified as he tried to get away from the white neighborhood watch volunteer who shot him, and that the volunteer was not defending himself as he has claimed, the teen's family told The Associated Press on Saturday.
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“Calls made to police show...”
How is THAT admissible or credible evidence? This corrupt AP article charges, damns, convicts and all but sentences/executes the “neighborhood watch volunteer”. Total BS without PROOF. But, hey: when did the LSM/libs ever need that burdensome and trivial stuff?
I don’t know if Zimmerman is innocent or not but... That article has no actual facts in it and appears to be just following the liberal MSM as portraying any legal gun owner as a racist, sexist, homophobic, mysoginistic Neanderthal throwback. Especially one who has used his gun to defend himself. All of the phone calls were from neighbors who HEARD something, none of them saw anything. Zimmerman had injuries to support his claim of self defense. Also, looking at his Facebook page, Trayvon either had gang ties or was a wannabee. I think he also had a record. Zimmerman may still be guilty, he ran the kid down, but that article was designed solely to inflame the situation.
Any word on the White kid who was set on fire while a groups of black teens were yelling for him to die?
Yep, a typical AP character assassination propaganda hitpiece.
The MSM hopes to force an unjust prosecution and influence the verdict, here.
This case seems pretty cut-and-dry: An armed man follows and confronts an unarmed teen and then shoots and kills him. Everyone should be outraged. This appears to be one of those stories in which the family and their supporters are justified in their outrage.
From the article:
” ‘This guy looks like he is up to no good. He is on drugs or something,’ Zimmerman told the dispatcher from his SUV. He added that the black teen had his hand in his waistband and was walking around looking at homes.
” ‘These a-———. They always get away,’ Zimmerman said on a 911 call.”
Guess I’ll just chase him down and shot him...
>>This case seems pretty cut-and-dry: An armed man follows and confronts an unarmed teen and then shoots and kills him. Everyone should be outraged. This appears to be one of those stories in which the family and their supporters are justified in their outrage.<<
You are exactly correct. Remove “black kid” and the shooter is a murderer. Some people have no business to have CC. This guy got his license and was looking to use it.
Because the boy is black and Zimmerman is widely believed to be white, the teen's family and many activists believe Trayvon was racially profiled. However, Zimmerman is Hispanic.
Truthfully, the black kid could have shot and stabbed the white guy and the “black community” would be up in arms if the white guy had killed the kid in self-defense...that’s the problem with crying “wolf” 24-7: people run out of “give a damn”...
I just heard the 911 calls and they are pretty damning against Zimmerman IMO. How can Zimmerman claim it was self defense when he was the one who followed Treyvon in his own car, and started the confrontation with Treyvon by getting out of the vehicle? The 911 operator told Zimmerman I need you to stop following him and I need you to stop doing that. Zimmerman never says that Treyvon is commiting any crimes.
Zimmerman had no authority to demand ID or private personal information from Trayvon. He had no badge, no uniform, no marked police vehicle, no nothing. Trayvon probably thought he was the one in danger because he kept being followed.
Have either of you listened to the tapes?
Nobody knows who was the person that was actually screaming on the tape. It could have been Zimmerman.
Zimmerman was arrested in 2005 for resisting an officer with violence and battery on a law enforcement officer. The case was dismissed because no evidence could be found. Zimmerman attended a pre-trial diversion program and a deal was made with his attorney to get the case dropped.
Other articles are quoting his neighbors as saying they've had trouble with him, too. It seems this guy has a history of getting away with things...
The poor kid - he had his whole life ahead of him.
If you were to listen to the tapes, you would see that the so called AP hit piece is accurate.
As I posted on another thread; remember Richard Jewell and Eric Rudolph.
Rabble rousers come in all colors and political venues.
Let’s search for TRUTH not what might have been.
God Bless and help us all!
I didn’t see anybody from law enforcement identify the screams for help as coming from the dead teen. As far as I can tell only his family members claim he was the one screaming for help on the recording. Does anybody have more information about this?
Yep - too many are too eager to jump on the side of the person exercising his 2nd Amendment rights and turn a blind eye to the small percentage that turn out to be bad apples. We all want to believe that it has to be a hit piece,because of the fear that the minute percentage of those who carry guns and do bad will give the Left reason to take them away. All they need to do is remember Charlton Heston's remark, while holding a rifle above his head, "...from my cold dead hands".
This does not even appear to be an over-zealous citizen making an arrest after witnessing a crime. It APPEARS only one crime was committed. Even if the kid pulled a knife on the street to protect himself against another armed man, the deceased appears to be a murder victim.
I agree, the local media here (I live in Central Florida)has the guy convicted with no evidence. The Sanford police may be incompetent or they may not be. We need both sides and it needs to be done in a court of law not with TV cameras interviewing people.
We need Paul Harvey to come back and give us the "Rest of the Story".
We need the truth and not some news story. One of the TV stations here is always saying "Only Channel 9 knows" or only channel 9 has the complete interview etc. etc. etc. . . . . . .
Blind Men and Elephant
http://wordinfo.info/unit/1?letter=B&spage=3
Moral:
So oft in theologic wars,
The disputants, I ween,
Rail on in utter ignorance
Of what each other mean,
And prate about an Elephant
Not one of them has seen!
God Bless and help us all!
I read that he was hispanic??
agree
My war department(wife )says she just heard REVEREND? AL much is coming down.
I’m in Seminole Co.
You left out an important step. You said "confronts...and then shoots" yet all accounts state that there was some sort of physical fight before the shooting. Why did you leave out the fight? Are you deliberately lying in service to some agenda?
And you know this is what happened how?
Isn’t the ‘kid’ a criminal? There was a link on a different thread.
I think there’s more to this - isn’t the ‘teenager’ a criminal?
Remove “black kid” and this doesn’t even make the news.
>> I read that he was hispanic??
Only when voting for Obama.
Have you listened to a recording of Zimmerman's 911 call in its entirety? I have not and I don't know where to find it. The recording provided with the linked AP article seems to be an edited montage of multiple separate 911 calls.
So what if Zimmerman approached Martin with his weapon concealed and simply asked whether Martin lived nearby and in response to this Martin rushed Zimmerman and started punching him in the face?
If that was the case, would it be murder for Zimmerman to draw his weapon and defend himself?
The local police chose NOT to arrest the man - they might, just might - have a little more insight into the situation than the ‘family’...
On a slightly different note - here’s a video of elite journalist connected to the New York Times trashing conservatives and the little people. You know these two have never met a criminal they didn’t love...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBFOmUXR080
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Any word on the White kid who was set on fire while a groups of black teens were yelling for him to die?
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The liberal elite press does NOT care about the white child set on fire.
Want to see the elite media talk when there’s an undercover conservative in the room ? Check out the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBFOmUXR080
Not sure about the kid, but the shooter has been in trouble with the law...
I introduced one set of hypotheticals in response to a post by Mariner where he introduced other hypotheticals. And the issue of self defense is plainly relevant to the case at hand. Mariner called Zimmerman a murderer but it isn't murder if it is self-defense.
BTW, idiots and liars are talking about the Skittles. Honest intelligent people are talking about the fistfight that occurred before the shooting and asking who started it.
Have you EVER in your life heard of a white neighborhood up in arms about some white criminal being shot? Either by the police or by someone defending themselves? Never. We don't stand with criminals.
I don't know the facts here - but I know the MSM isn't telling much of the story...and what's being told reeks of bias.
What was the 'teen' doing in that neighborhood? Was he visiting a friend? If he was, that should be in the story.
The police looked into the situation and decided NOT to arrest the man who shot him. Why was that done?
Did the teen have an arrest record? This isn't a court of law - it's the court of public opinion. I'd like to know if he's a criminal...
One (911) caller, a teenage boy, said that as he was walking his dog, "I saw a man laying on the ground that needed help. He was screaming."
Then, he told the operator, he heard a gunshot and said the screaming stopped.
Here's some more:
Zimmerman had been the subject of earlier complaints by residents of the gated community in which he and Martin's family lived. At an emergency homeowner's association meeting earlier this month, "one man was escorted out because he openly expressed his frustration because he had previously contacted the Sanford Police Department about Zimmerman approaching him and even coming to his home," a resident wrote in an email to HuffPost. "It was also made known that there had been several complaints about George Zimmerman and his tactics" in his neighborhood watch captain role.
It should slso be noted that the family of the victim lived in the gated community where this took place.
WOW! I am a bit of a news junkie ( Not the Chardonney sipping kind) and this is the first time I had heard about this. Thank you for sharing this with me. What an eye opener!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBFOmUXR080
I reposted your link. Thanks again!
That's an important piece of information... Thanks for sharing. Many of us know the press always picks one side - not based on evidence - or fair play or justice - but on PC politics. And we tend to automatically take the other side...
More information is needed. Here's a link to why we don't trust the MSM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBFOmUXR080
A couple of women neighbors who lived together claimed they were witnesses, but it appears they only heard what happened through an open window. They say it had to be the kid screaming for help since the screaming stopped after the shot was fired. Of course, if the kid was dead, the shooter wouldn’t need help any longer. I can’t find the tapes anywhere. Anyone know where they are? Also, the kid was on suspension from school. The father refuses to say why. The picture they have of the kid appears to be when he was much younger. Maybe they don’t have a “nice” current photo. There is a Trayvon Martin facebook page with a thuggy looking kid, but I don’t know if that’s him or not.
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