House Minority Whip Gingrich and 7th District congressional candidate
Brenda Fitzgerald throw mock tea crates into the Chattahoochee River on
April 15, 1994, as part of a "Taxpayer's Tea party" in Roswell, Georgia.
GO NEWT!
Posted on 02/24/2012 1:20:43 PM PST by Mariner
True to a primary season already marked by sudden and surprising ups and downs, Mitt Romney has jumped back into the lead in Michigan’s Republican Primary race. The vote’s on Tuesday.
The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Republican Primary Voters in Michigan shows Romney with 40% of the vote and former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum with 34%. The poll was conducted on Thursday night, following the last scheduled debate among the GOP candidates. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
“Yes you did, and yes I can.”
No you didn’t, and no you can’t. Nothing I said there was attacking religion or Christianity. In fact, my point was that you and your candidate are abusing Christianity in order to promote a vacuous candidacy based on character alone. I’ve said that multiple times, actually. You’re just obsessed with painting me as an anti-Christian since that’s all you have to support your candidate and yourself.
“In addition, when you whine about how you keep getting accused of being anti-moral... take that as a clue. You ARE anti-moral.”
If I was anti-moral, I would probably say that I am anti-moral. I’m pretty honest with what I stand for and believe in, and I don’t censor myself just to get along with people. It’s against my nature.
Your smears against me are vacuous and disgusting. But on the brightside, just about every Santorum supporter (almost all) are engaging in these kinds of smears all across this forum, and not just against me.
Good points. The air gets thin after a sudden surge to the top and I don’t think Rick was thinking clearly.
This has been the wildest primary I can ever remember.
I really appreciate your posts. I am learning a lot from such informed folks on FR.
There’s no need to call for a ZOT, for crying out loud and I will not be a party to it!
Apollo5600 takes issue with Santorum, not RELIGION, as trisham correctly points out and as Apollo5600’s posts clearly state.
Calm down, please!
Your direct quote that “religious and social issues are only being used to promote a perception of character and cover up a lack of substance” is evidence enough for me that you have no use for religion and Christianity.
And if that’s not enough to zot you, then I’ll wait. Newbies like you ALWAYS give themselves away. Sooner or later you’ll make a comment from the heart that lays open your true convictions.
Maybe I’ll be proven wrong, but I doubt it.
This really demonstrates a larger pattern in the nature of their support. They immediately attack the integrity of Newt Gingrich in order to support their candidate whenever any discussion comes up about actual policy. “Newt sat with Pelosi” etc, even though Saint Rick sat with Barbra Boxer on actual legislation.
They don’t tackle actual issues in any great depth. But they are quite marvelous at making the debate about Newt’s character or, in this case, the character of his supporters.
Thanks for the exact time.
I’ve pinged RitaOK
to the thread.
“Your direct quote that “religious and social issues are only being used to promote a perception of character and cover up a lack of substance” is evidence enough for me that you have no use for religion and Christianity.”
Getting a dictionary and maybe diagramming some sentences would help you out with this. I’m sure you’re confident, just like I’m sure your pal thought the poster of this thread was an ‘undercover Mittbot’. I assure you, however, that you know absolutely nothing about me. And all that you do know about me is a product of your delusions.
I really don’t like it when my integrity is attacked and I am called a liar like this, over and over again. The sooner this ugly nomination process is over, the better.
Very well.
So you agree that “religious and social issues are only being used to promote a perception of character and cover up a lack of substance”.
As for me. I reject that. Totally. I will NOT be told by a newbie (or anyone else) that religious and social issues are not be discussed and that if I do so they only “cover up a lack of substance”.
But I do find it amusing that you start quoting the Bible as you attack our Christian viewpoints.
IBTZ.
It's extremely unlikely he will be zotted.
His observations concerning a large number of Santorum supporters are right on IMHO. They attack other members of FR with BS accusations to impugn their character, inclusive of name calling, anytime they observe Santorum's weaknesses. I'm surprised Jim has put up with it for this long.
As nominee Romney would need the religious voters that are driving Santorum’s campaign. But why pick pushover Rick for VP when you could have someone who is at least good at politics like...The Reverend Huckabee!! I’ve been calling it for years now. West, Rubio, Gingrich, Rand Paul,Ryan, DeMint all nice for the tea party types but no one helps with the holy-rollers like the populist preacher from Arkansas, who although he believes Mormon are all going to hell would be happy to be the VP to Mitt.
It’s funny to watch a newbie call out a newbie.
I believe that the more voters learn about him, and get to know him, the more they will yearn to have the opportunity to vote for him.
“As for me. I reject that. Totally. I will NOT be told by a newbie (or anyone else) that religious and social issues are not be discussed and that if I do so they only “cover up a lack of substance”.”
I didn’t say that they aren’t to be discussed. I’m totally for it, and you don’t see me criticizing Newt Gingrich who has been, since at least the 80s, talking about the moral and religious decline in the United States. His war against the welfare state was full of messages just like that, incase you didn’t know. I’m saying that it is being cynically used to cover up a lack of substance, and I’ll add that the standards he is putting out there are not standards that he himself can meet.
YOU ROCK Apollo5600!!!!
Can you say Pharasee!!!!! GEESH!!!
None are so blind as he who will not see!!
It’s pride, so therefore they cannot see!!!
Essentially they show that in about eight days time, Santorum has plummeted from ten points up in Michigan to down 5-6 points, and from about a tie in Arizona to 13-16 points behind Romney in that same timespan.
In other words, about a 15-point drop in each state over the course of a little over a week.
attck Santorum’s issues if you want. What I have an issue is when Santorum-bashers call him “Saint Ricky”, “Sanctimonious”, “Slick Rick”, etc.
Mariner, you asked the question what would happen to the Santorum supporters and that you were concerned, and this is my answer. A good chunk may not even vote or if they do, they might just vote Romney. A small percentage may go back to Newt, but not anywhere near the numbers Newt needs to win outside the South. This poll confirms that trend. Notice Newt didn’t gain, but what Santorum lost, almost all went to Romney. These people are NOT Romney supporters, they’re just tired, they’ve had enough, and just want to be done with the whole thing. They’ve been through 4-5 candidates and everytime, EVERYTIME, the candidate gets hammered not only by the MSM, but even in the so-called “conservative” forums. This poll shows they are capitulating. If this was your goal, then congratulations.
You kept saying Santorum supporters like to “positively spin”. Well I’m a supporter, but as you can tell, I’m not spinning. This whole process has made me bitter, angry, and turned me off to the Election. After I felt like the voters spit on me (military) in 2008, I thought there was no doubt that we would be able to correct that great injustice. Now, I just don’t even give a d@mn anymore. Why bother?
Excellent! :)
What a joke, Newt did no favors to Santorum. Just last week Newt insulted him and he was given a pass here. Fair is fair.
Newt sunk his own boat.
The only poll you’re going to see are the ones that show either Obamney or Saintorum in the lead. Same here in GA
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