Posted on 02/24/2012 1:20:43 PM PST by Mariner
I still expect him to win Michigan and Arizona by 10+ points.
An up to date poll.
Who's next? Again?
Gingrich, being a magnanimous man, cleared out of Michigan for Santorum to take on Romney alone.
Steelfish is not going to like this poll at all.
Please be smarter than this, Michigan voters.
Yes, he did. God bless Newt Gingrich.
It certainly won’t be RuPaul that only leaves 1.
For any Michigan voter to be so stupid as to fall for this trickery/ambush by Romney and his sidekick, Ru...is beyond belief.
I don’t know if it was magnanimus or shrewd political strategery by Newt, but I hope it still works.
Just don’t expect Santorum to return the favor to Newt.
Ras consistently demonstrates in numbers the demise of the American intellect, values, and her Constitution. Santorum may be a gaffe machine, shooting both feet off in concert with shooting off his mouth, an unnecessarily unsubtle oaf, but he is not an empty suit with hair, and he is a Christian willing to defend the faith of the nation’s founding, its Constitution, its Bill of Rights.
Romney is a proud, fine socialist, at a time when government of, by and FOR a free people is in peril, but key to our survival.
It's not like he's been helping his own cause over the last couple of weeks.
In comparison of running a clean race, he is above the rest of the candidates. And no, I don't expect Saint Santo to return any favors. The other three have been running negative ads on and off against Gingrich since Iowa.
I can no longer invest life energy in a race in which the electorate is so easily swayed by Television Commercials. I think I’ll devote the rest of my year to disrespecting Obama.
This poll is not surprising after the double team by Ron and Mitt, plus Rick’s debate performance. I expect the margin to widen.
What I’m really wondering is, is there a hope that Newt and Rick could team up? Now that it is pretty obvious that Ron and Mitt have a deal, I don’t see Rick being strong armed into a ticket with Mitt, even if the GOP E may have had that in mind.
I would think that there is too much bad blood on the floor between the two. We need to keep the ticket as conservative as possible.
Newt is by far the superior leader IMHO, but if he and Rick could work together, I think Newt could get enough done in 4 years that he could then step aside and let his VP, Rick, run. In that length of time Rick could learn a lot from Newt and be more ready to lead.
If Mitt and Ron want to play that game, surely we can find a way to out maneuver them.
Would love to see a discussion of this. Thanks!
Which begs the question: How will Santorum supporters react if he falls back to his historical norms? What will they do if somebody besides Rick wins the nomination?
Will they still vote GOP up and down the ticket?
I'm concerned. It's like when Tebow lost in the playoffs. It's an enormous emotional hit to go from being so high, to landing back on earth.
I do not think Santorum is a gaffe machine. He just doesn’t speak like Gingrich. Let’s put it this way. If this were an advanced debate class, Gingrich would be at the head of the class, a classic A+. (And he didn’t have to sleep with the professor to get it.) Romney would be a struggling B-, saying all the right things, but as if someone else wrote it all for him. George Bush would be failing the class, even with the tutoring he’s getting. (Even if he were sleeping with the prof!) But Santorum would be a clean B. Sharp and quick, says the right things. Graded down from an A for some ums and uhs, and for going on a mite too long.
Santorum scares the irreligious, is all. They are afraid he is only about social issues, and they are tricked into thinking that a godless socialist or a man who says he is religious but doesn’t act upon the tenets of his faith would be better.
I’m just glad the governor doesn’t expect us to be team players in November because I don’t think I’m going to feel like taking one for the team if he’s the nominee.
” I don’t know if it was magnanimus or shrewd political strategery by Newt,..... “
THAT is a very good question.
I don’t want to be caught getting cranky again, but I *think*, it was a money crunch, conditioned by that faucet of Adelson’s, being turned on and then at once turned off for whole weeks, leaving hugh gaps in Newt’s financial reach for states beyond the South.
Santorum naturally fed his money bump into the states where it “appeared” after 3 ballot wins that Republicans liked him there, and by several points.....for awhile. Was he lured into Michigan? I think so.
Was Rick displaced by the Arizona debate? Yep.
Newt debated Rick out of Michigan, but Rick missed it, of course.
No surprise at all; the early Santorum leads were illusory. People of MI nearly always do as expected.
No surprise at all; the early Santorum leads were illusory. People of MI nearly always do as expected or instructed.
Are you calling ME a Romneytard?
I sure did.
Your excitement is obvious.
No, my interest has waned since Newt tanked. I can’t get excited about anyone else...if Newt makes a comeback, I will get involved again. Otherwise, it’s not worth the effort. People are dolts.
I think you're correct and Newt was out of gas when the real campaigning was underway in MI. Plus, he has to MAKE SURE he wins GA and TN.
As the Michigan primary approached in May, 1980, Ronald Reagan seemed to have the Republican presidential nomination all but locked up. He had won several key primaries, many by landslides, and it appeared that his narrow win in Bush's home state of Texas would have just about iced it. However, Bush trounced Reagan in Michigan, which might very well have been the key factor that got him the nod as Reagan's running mate--and ushered in the Bush dynasty. Here's hoping that Michiganders will act smarter.
Just got my fifth robo call from the Romney campaign today. TV is filled with his attack ads. Santorum is shown with a stupid smile on his face as the narrator “explains” about Rick’s big government background.
Five Romney calls in one day matches my previous record from Tuesday. Gotta believe there will be at least two or three more before bedtime.
If Santorum wins in Michigan, Romney will have truly failed on a vast scale. He must be spending a fortune here.
It’ll be tight but I think Santorum will pull it off in the end despite the media being in the tank for Romney.
And, as is TYPICAL and CONSISTENT with many Santorum supporters you greet all bad news by calling the messenger names.
Seems that's all you're got.
And that is the sign of a weak mind.
Really?
I guess you agree with the libtards that discussing social values has no place in presidential politics.
LOL. You crack me up, always negative about Newt Gingrich.
Santorum is the one bragging that he will carry the rust belt and carry the blue collar voters.
FWIW, I hope he beats the snot out of Romney in Michigan.
It clearly has a place. It's been happening for about two weeks.
I just don't know if it's helped the candidate much.
You always have such a bright sunny outlook!
I don’t see your scenario happening, at least not yet!
After Super Tuesday, we shall see.
It’s all about amassing delegates. NO ROMNEY!!
Romney/Paul. Puke. Obama is a shoo-in for re-election. Stupid GOP!
I agree with you on your debate grading, so far as it goes, but it is not Newt’s *way* with words entirely at all, as it must be with Rick, Romney and Ron in these debates, but with Newt it’s rather the show stopping breadth of his incisive intellect that grasps the evolution of every single issue, one at a time, the evolution of every contender’s stand ON every issue, and succinctly delivers the cause and effect of both the issue and the stand.
Reminds me of a sword fight, where it is, whack, whack, LUNGE. Every. single. time.
If Rick had been a woman, it would be said of him that he was “shrill”, flailing and a little desperate.
Consider the source, Mariner, and ignore.
Jim, I and everyone else knows you’re NOT a Mitt-witt.
GO NEWT!!!!
GO SANTORUM IN MICHIGAN!
NO ROMNEY, NO WAY!
If Romney wins Michigan he will be the nominee and your little buddy is cheering him on.
I early voted in the Georgia Primary today.
I won’t say who I voted for but his middle name is Leroy :-)
If I was cheering for Romney I would have been zotted by now.
Something you seem to want for yourself as evidenced by your endless name calling.
What I’m really wondering is, is there a hope that Newt and Rick could team up?
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Rick, misread his surge- and therefore, was not open to cooperative with Newt.
But, if he loses Migh- he will come to understand that he was undone by the Pauls, spectors simpsons, Drudges, Coulters. limbaughs-—and other Romney establishment minions.
At that point, perhaps he will seek an alliance with Newt- and I hope that they would demand Romney step down in favor of a consensus candidate (e.g. Demint)— or else, they should make clear that they will bolt the party.
That rotten POS has been more effective at "the politics of personal destruction" than any democrat I have seen in my lifetime. Alas, there is a big enough spread in delegates that if all 4 candidates can stay in and win a few, Romney will not get to the magic 1,144 delegates on the first ballot.
Then the grand adventure begins anew.
“...or a man who says he is religious but doesn’t act upon the tenets of his faith would be better.”
That’s right, nobody can be as holy as Saint Rick. *vomit*
In addition to Obamacare type program in MA. Romney was also creating a cap and trade, CO2 reduction program for MA. He consulted the science Czar John Holdren. link
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