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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
Of course, pointing out that some of the Founders may have intended the presidency for the white children of white citizens (or, more specifically, as bushpilot1 did, for the Anglo-Saxon children of Anglo-Saxon citizens) is not the same as advocating that the presidency, in the here and now, should be reserved for white European descendants.

But, bushpilot1 took that extra step. In post 33, he said that Bubba Ho-Tep is not a natural-born citizen because he is descended from Italian immigrants and "Those who immigrated from Southern Europe do not fit into this Kind." In post 56 (which has been removed), bushpilot1 again explained his position that the Founders limited the presidency to those with Anglo-Saxon heritage, and said (to paraphrase, since I don't want to re-post something that's been removed) that if you don't like it, ask Congress to change the Constitution. He was clearly saying that the presidency was and is Constitutionally reserved for those with Anglo-Saxon heritage.

125 posted on 02/10/2012 6:00:20 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Additionally “Kind” is used by creationists to denote types of animals that they assume could not be related through common descent.

By claiming that humans have different “Kinds” he was most likely buying into the racist ‘multiple Adams’ theology.

In other words that HE and HIS “Kind” were descended from the ‘real’ Adam - and other “Kinds” of humans are not at all related. They would be of a different “Kind”.


127 posted on 02/10/2012 6:07:59 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative; allmendream; Bubba Ho-Tep; Tex-Con-Man; All; Admin Moderator
From #33: "Claims on Italian citizenship are only possibly valid for descendents down to the second degree. Your grandfather born in the U.S. could have inherited Italian citizenship from his Italian citizen father, and your mother could have inherited it from your grandfather, but you are past the second degree and are therefore ineligible."

Read that last bit again. The "past the second degree and therefore ineligible" refers to Bubba-Ho-Tep being ineligible for ITALIAN citizenship, not US citizenship.

I begin to suspect that major misunderstanding, if not outright dishonesty is afoot, and not on the part of myself at the least, but also likely/possibly bushpilot1 as well. For you to posit that "He was clearly saying that the presidency was and is Constitutionally reserved for those with Anglo-Saxon heritage" based on a removed post that I can no longer verify is disingenuous at best. Easy to parse the words of someone not able to explain themselves in person. . .

I'm a reasonable guy, open to reasonable arguments. However, if all that's going to be presented is a Double Nothing Burger with a side of Innuendo and a tall glass of Look It Up Yourself, plus a bonus "You're Circling the Wagons" toy, then I'll just take my n00b bench warmer position and let the First Stringers wrangle with you. This smells. Meh


130 posted on 02/10/2012 7:03:25 AM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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