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From #33: "Claims on Italian citizenship are only possibly valid for descendents down to the second degree. Your grandfather born in the U.S. could have inherited Italian citizenship from his Italian citizen father, and your mother could have inherited it from your grandfather, but you are past the second degree and are therefore ineligible."

Read that last bit again. The "past the second degree and therefore ineligible" refers to Bubba-Ho-Tep being ineligible for ITALIAN citizenship, not US citizenship.

I begin to suspect that major misunderstanding, if not outright dishonesty is afoot, and not on the part of myself at the least, but also likely/possibly bushpilot1 as well. For you to posit that "He was clearly saying that the presidency was and is Constitutionally reserved for those with Anglo-Saxon heritage" based on a removed post that I can no longer verify is disingenuous at best. Easy to parse the words of someone not able to explain themselves in person. . .

I'm a reasonable guy, open to reasonable arguments. However, if all that's going to be presented is a Double Nothing Burger with a side of Innuendo and a tall glass of Look It Up Yourself, plus a bonus "You're Circling the Wagons" toy, then I'll just take my n00b bench warmer position and let the First Stringers wrangle with you. This smells. Meh

“It is possible the Founders limited the President to the descendants of the White Europeans who formed the country.”

“1926 Bouvier Law Dictionary..American is defined..descendants from Europeans who were born in the US.”

“Can Obama say he has kindred blood with the Founders..with..the majority of United States citizens?”

all by bushpilot1.

“You are not a natural born citizen. Natural born citizens are the descendants of the original citizens. A natural born citizen is a Kind of citizen. Those who immigrated from Southern Europe do not fit into this Kind.”

bushpilot1 to Bubba-Ho-Tep

Here he helpfully clarifies that even WHITE people of European descent are not good enough - IF they came from SOUTHERN Europe.

Apparently those Italians are FAR too swarthy to be of our “Kind” - by which he means race - by which he means White NORTHERN European.

Bushpilot1 was advancing this argument here since 2010. Nice to see he FINALLY got the zot when he more fully explained his position.

Almost every birther who chose to chime in on this idea chose to “circle the wagons” around bushpilot1, not a SINGLE ONE that I saw condemned this argument for the racist twaddle it is was and always will be.

While looking for his comments I see they have disseminated far and wide beyond Free Republic - in places where they use his argument to condemn us all as racists.

If I wanted to construct an argument that would be the MOST damaging to the birther movement and their credibility - the argument bushpilot1 advanced would be A#1!

He couldn't have done more to harm the birther cause if he had tried - and yet it seems that to the other birthers - he was “one of us”. You are known by the company you keep.