Posted on 02/02/2012 1:00:27 PM PST by nuconvert
Edited on 02/02/2012 2:14:45 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Donald Trump endorsed Mitt Romney for president Thursday, saying he's impressed by the Republican candidate's debate prowess and believes he could easily beat President Obama in November.
"Mitt is tough. He's smart. He's sharp. He's not going to allow bad things to continue to happen to this country that we all love," Trump said in Las Vegas, telling the candidate to "go out and get 'em."
The real estate mogul, speaking briefly with reporters before the announcement, said that even though he "never knew" Romney before the race began, he's come to know him in recent months.
"His general attitude and the last two debates were very impressive," Trump said.
He also cited Romney's position on China, calling the former Massachusetts governor
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Maybe Trump was trying to help Gingrich the most he can by endorsing Mittens lol
I hear ya - yesterday was a bummer for me as well. Personal things to cope with and then the news about Trump/Romney. And, as far as voting on who’s left, my state (MO) is having an asinine “primary” Tuesday where Newt’s not even on the ballot. What we have to do to show we don’t want Romney is to check the “Uncommitted” box - but I’m sure most people don’t know that. And no delegates will be awarded until we then have a caucus March 17th. Bizarre and we’ve never done it this way before. Things aren’t looking good at this moment, but Newt needs to hang tough though it’s got to be hard.
“primary” Tuesday where Newt’s not even on the ballot
Newt blew us off here in Missouri and CHOSE not to be on the ballot. Santorum is going to win the primary and is odds on for the caucus at this point.
Damned right
It may come to that.
I think on a national basis if it is going to happen it will be the Tea Party Caucus leaving the Pubs and forming their own party. The problem is at the local level redistricting is controlled by the Rats and Pubs every 10 years and they will draw districts to minimize the ability of a 3rd party to grow. Also, the media is in bed with the Rats and will do everything to marginalize any conservative party.
Finally, how would this new conservative party handle the populist bent emerging within conservatism. I doubt I'm alone in being surprised at the recent condemnation of people who have done well and the idea that unless you "sweat" you really aren't working.
I’ll believe Romney’s position on trade, when I see it.
Bill Clinton said the same thing.
“I doubt I’m alone in being surprised at the recent condemnation of people who have done well and the idea that unless you “sweat” you really aren’t working.”
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Well whether you are or not in a small minority still sipping on the “free trade” koolaid, sending American factories to China and firing the American employees, certainly doesn’t qualify as “working” to this poster.
Perhaps we’ll just agree to disagree.
The bible does say that men shall live by the sweat of their brow. So quite honestly WM if you are getting rich without ever having broken a sweat, then maybe there really is something sinister about the way you make a living.
Gen 3:19 "In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return."
The "populist" criticisms of the manner in which Romney made his millions is not so much envy as it is wonder. I don't envy Romney's millions, but there is something sinister in the manner in which he leveraged companies and borrowed against the assets of failing companies to enrich himself that is clearly worthy of criticism.
Capitalism is a great system, but like all systems there are those who skirt the line between morality and immorality, between legal and illegal.
Thank you for illustrating why a 3rd party would probably be marginalized pretty easily.
Perhaps you need to include in your political analysis some of your theological perspective., i.e, total depravity.
People are by nature self centered, selfish, envious, wrathful, jealous and in open rebellion to God.
So people will vote their self interest unless they have a good theological reason not to do so.
So no matter who we put up as a candidate, if they are not at least somewhat "populist" they are not going to garner enough votes to win dog catcher, must less the presidency of the United States.
Romney is the worst of all possible candidates in that he not only has no political foundation, he represents all that is wrong with Capitalism and nothing that is right with it. He represents the culture of greed and corruption that most people see as a problem whether it is real or imagined.
No candidate is going to win without stoking the fire of the populists in the electorate. I want a candidate who has a solid conservative base and record who can communicate a conservative message to a selfish, envious, wrathful, jealous electorate and convince them that what he is proposing by way of his platform and ideas is in their best interests.
WM, in regard to the Capitalism criticism, one can criticize certain legal methodologies for amassing riches without being an "Anti-Capitalist". There are "moral" Capitalists and there are "a-moral" Capitalists. IMHO Romney would be numbered among the "A-Moral Capitalists".
By pointing that out, does that mean I oppose Capitalism? Or does that mean I oppose the methodology of Romney's and Bain's Capitalistic a-moral model?
Cannot one support Capitalism in principle and argue that some people have utilized it improperly and for improper motives? Or is any attack on any "Capitalist" somehow an attack on all?
I don’t think the issue is people who have done well.
The issue is honesty. There is a backlash against people getting rich dishonestly, and folks consider crony capitalism to be dishonest whether illegal or not.
Not only does “The Donald” hence force referred to as “The Supreme Earth Pimp (sorry inside joke)” endorse Mitt after blasting him as a “jobs destroyer” but first he apparently strung along the Gingrich camp. Boy does anyone who ever took him seriously have egg on their face!
If Romney would snort 10 kilos of coke and put a dead marmoset on his head he would BE Donald Trump!!!
Souter was John Sununu’s idea.
What was the last criticism of Romney. It wasn't how Bain made money, but that because he had done well he has 20 million a year come in on his investments without "sweating" for it. So we've seen the evolution of this high minded populist condemnation of "vulture capitalists" to condemning anyone with investment income. A lot of us saw this coming with the first attacks. It's surprising to me that some of my FRiends have fallen into this.
So no matter who we put up as a candidate, if they are not at least somewhat "populist" they are not going to garner enough votes to win dog catcher, must less the presidency of the United States.
This line of thinking will defeat Gingrich in the general election. He doesn't have clean hands. He traded influence for millions when he lobbied for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. BTW, he didn't sweat when he did this.
Fighting for freedom will win elections, not attacks on those that take risks and create economic activity.
Then why the attack on the investment income Romney makes?
Because the income invested was dishonest income.
If a drug lord invests money in the market is his investment income clean?
Wow, I can't believe you are saying this. If he had broken any laws you can bet the IRS would have been all over him.
Do you think the money he earned at Damon Corporation was honest money?
At the time they received the largest fraud fine in Massachusetts history for Medicare fraud...119 million dollars.
Remember the controversey; took a look back:
excerpt:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Souter
The nine senators voting against Souter included Ted Kennedy and John Kerry from Souter's neighboring state of Massachusetts. These senators, along with seven others, painted Souter as a right-winger in the mold of Robert Bork. They based their claim on Souter's friendships with many conservative politicians in New Hampshire.
An opinion article by The Wall Street Journal some ten years after the Souter nomination called Souter a "liberal jurist" and said that Rudman took "pride in recounting how he sold Mr. Souter to gullible White House Chief of Staff John Sununu as a confirmable conservative. Then they both sold the judge to President Bush, who wanted above all else to avoid a confirmation battle."[20] Rudman wrote in his memoir that he had "suspected all along" that Souter would not "overturn activist liberal precedents."[7] Sununu later said that he had "a lot of disappointment" about Souter's positions on the court and would have preferred him to be more similar to Justice Antonin Scalia.[7]
Only a Liberal could call a friend and peer; 'gullible' because that Liberal was 'taken at his word' by his friend. And yes, mistakes happen; certainly if you trust a Liberal.
John Sununu would make a great president. How is it; we get the Massachussets Rino. . .stuffed down our throats. Sununu; with fewer generations behind him; nonetheless; certainly passes the 'North Eastern' test; and more; because of his talent and history.
Yeah...absolutely. The NE “Republican party” sold out to the FDR view of history, culture, and economics generations ago. Most thought they died when Goldwater got the nomination in ‘64, they didn’t, they just got a lot smaller. Rudman, Chaffee, Snow, etc...they are still about 20% of the party with 60% of the influence when it comes to presidential nominations.
One of these years...the party faithful is going to figure this out. The Northeast GOP liberal, media complex is still very, very important when deciding POTUS’ nominees. Most of these people vote Democrat in the end...but still have tremendous financial/political power in the GOP.
I’m ready to bolt...When the Whigs fractured and died over the Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854, the Republicans replaced them. We are a modern Kan/Neb Act from the same result.
Past time to look at building a third party.
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