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Suggestion to Gingrich, Santorum, Perry and respective supporters
RealClearPolitics Republican presidential primary polls | Jan 17, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 01/17/2012 3:32:52 PM PST by Jim Robinson

RealClear Republican Presidential Polls as of January 17:

South Carolina, Monmouth University: Romney 33, Gingrich 22, Paul 12, Santorum 14, Perry 6

South Carolina, Rasmussen Reports: Romney 35, Gingrich 21, Paul 16, Santorum 16, Perry 5

Florida, PPP (D): Romney 41, Gingrich 26, Santorum 11, Paul 10, Perry 4

Florida, Sunshine State News/VSS: Romney 46, Gingrich 20, Santorum 12, Paul 9, Perry 3

Nationwide ABC News/Wash Post Romney 36, Gingrich 16, Santorum 13, Paul 16, Perry 9

Nationwide Gallup Tracking: Romney 34, Gingrich 15, Santorum 15, Paul 12, Perry 6

Like it or not, the trend has been clear for weeks. If we wish a conservative to be our nominee, Perry should drop out of the race and we should coalesce around Gingrich or Santorum. As long as all three or even two of the three remain in the race the conservative vote will be split and RINO Romney will get the nomination.

Gingrich should challenge Santorum to a series of Lincoln-Douglas style one-on-one debates and if there is a clear winner, then the loser should drop out, or in the very least, we may be able to better decide which one is better suited to take on Romney and Obama.

May our very best conservative take on and defeat Romney/Paul and then wipe out Obama!!

TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: elections; gingrich; perry; ronpaulnotrepublican; santorum
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To: Jim Robinson; onyx; trisham; DJ MacWoW; musicman; JoeProBono; TheOldLady

Exactly! If Santorum or Perry could drop out and work with Newt then we would would have the best candidate with Newt. With the support and endorsements of either Santorum or Perry then Newt would clobber mittens and go on to clobber the Marxist!

141 posted on 01/17/2012 6:00:17 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Jim Robinson

If Santorum does poorly in SC then he should drop out and support Gingrich. There is still time(and hopefully money) for Newt. Reagan lost seven of the first nine primaries in 1976 against Ford. He almost won the nomination that year.

142 posted on 01/17/2012 6:00:36 PM PST by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: CatherineofAragon


143 posted on 01/17/2012 6:01:17 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

“Fun with Mittens”....LOL

144 posted on 01/17/2012 6:02:28 PM PST by CatherineofAragon
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To: RitaOK
at least cross the border into Florida

Ahem, South Carolina doesn't border Floriduh. He could cross the border to Mississippi, though!

145 posted on 01/17/2012 6:05:03 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Santorum in Iowa was gifted by the $3 million dollar take down of Gingrich by the Romney machine. Rick Perry was already on “implode” going in, and coming out quit following the count. The delegates are uncomitted in Iowa but yes Santorum got a free ride and his 2, or 4 delegates in Iowa, out of roughly, 1500. Now it’s over and at best even with the wind at his back, he’s at 16 in SC. And even THAT couldn’t have factored in the blow back from last night’s debate, where afterwards in the Spin Room even Rick Santorum knew who won the day and had moved the meter. It was not him. It was Newt.

146 posted on 01/17/2012 6:08:31 PM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. NEWT 2012/ Ron Paul is already Third Party, inside OUR Party.)
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To: halfright
Newt/Bolton 2012 works for me.

I don't see that happening with Bolton endorsing Mittens, FRiend.

147 posted on 01/17/2012 6:21:07 PM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Santorum is a nice guy, but he needs to explain the following 2006 quote before we hand him the VP slot:
“One of the criticisms I make is to what I refer to as more of a libertarianish right. You know, the left has gone so far left and the right in some respects has gone so far right that they touch each other. They come around in the circle. This whole idea of personal autonomy, well I don’t think most conservatives hold that point of view. Some do. They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down and keep our regulations low, that we shouldn’t get involved in the bedroom, we shouldn’t get involved in cultural issues. You know, people should do whatever they want. Well, that is not how traditional conservatives view the world and I think most conservatives understand that individuals can’t go it alone. That there is no such society that I am aware of, where we’ve had radical individualism and that it succeeds as a culture.”
148 posted on 01/17/2012 6:36:57 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: Kenny
“We voters get tired of getting jerked around.”

You're right. I'm tired of the manipulation. Governor Perry is reasonable and will do what needs to be done if and when it needs to be done. There is no reason to hop to it. It benefits no one. He's not doing any harm at all. Ron Paul is an obstacle. THE obstacle. Santorum has ego problems and is an obstacle. I like having the comfort of Governor Perry being in the race. It reminds me of a time in America when qualifications mattered. If anyone is leaning toward Santorum, he will be eaten alive and he'll whine his way through all of it. People keep talking about the VP slot going to Jindal or Rubio. Do we need to talk about it? Are they natural born citizens or not? OR doesn't that matter anymore either. So we have Newt. He's been impressive but he can't jump someone as unpopular as Romney? And people think other candidate's supporters are going to fall in line to vote for Newt? Kind of like Cain supporters vowing they wouldn't vote for anyone but Cain? Somebody somewhere is licking his chops....especially this early in the game with no distractions. Newt will give it his best and he will be a Conservative’s Conservative. He's being referred to as a “professor” who gives lectures. The image is wrong. The whole country has forgotten what he was able to pull off a long time ago. They need to be reeducated in a very short time and they've got to stop saying “Newt and Marianne.” Yes. A private life matters. I won't offer a list. Also, we are totally washed up if the only thing we have to offer a leader like Governor Perry is an invitation to jettison the race. This is Ronald Reagan all over again. I'm grateful we have this opportunity to discuss this in a civilized manner. I'd like to hear what other Perry supporters are thinking and what South Carolina really means in the long run.

149 posted on 01/17/2012 6:45:54 PM PST by FryingPan101 (Perry 2012)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

What’s to explain? Any Christian conservative understands exactly what he is saying, and agrees.

Only radical libertarians, who conflate “personal freedom” with radical licentiousness, have a problem understanding or accepting what he said here.

150 posted on 01/17/2012 6:47:40 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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Well said.

151 posted on 01/17/2012 6:48:55 PM PST by Conservative Patriot86 (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: CatherineofAragon

““Couldn’t we just roll Romney in an alley in Charleston? /s”

I’m choking!! LOL!

152 posted on 01/17/2012 6:53:43 PM PST by FryingPan101 (Perry 2012)
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To: UnwashedPeasant


I’d like Santorum to explain THIS also:

Voted for Federal funding of the National Endowment for the Arts.
Voted against a 10% cut in the budget for National Endowment for the Arts.

Voted for a Schumer amendment to make the debts of pro-life demonstrators not dischargeable in bankruptcy.

Defense and Foreign Policy

Voted for the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC).
Voted against requiring the President to certify that the CWC is effectively verifiable.

Voted against requiring the President to certify that that Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, North Korea, China, and all other countries determined to be state sponsors of terror have joined CWC prior to submitting the instrument of ratification.

Voted for the START II Treaty
Voted to allow the sale of supercomputers to China.
Voted to ban antipersonnel landmines
Voted against increasing defense spending offset by equivalent cuts in non-defense spending.
Voted to require that Federal bureaucrats get the same payraises as uniformed military.
Voted to allow food and medicine sales to state sponsors of terror and tyranical regimes such as Libya and Cuba.
Voted to limit the President’s authority to impose sanctions on nations for reasons of national security unless the sanctions were approved by a multilateral regime.
Voted against requiring Congressional authorization for military action in Bosnia.
Voted to give $25 million in foreign aid to North Korea
Voted to weaken alien terrorist deportation provisions. If the Court determines that the evidence must be withheld for national security reasons, the Justice Department must still provide a summary of the evidence sufficient for the alien terrorist to mount a defense against deportation.
Voted against delaying the India Nuclear until the President certified that India had agreed to suspend military-to-military exchanges with Iran.
Voted against the Conventional Trident Missile Program

Voted for Richard Paez to the 9th Curcuit (cloture)
Voted for Sonia Sotomayor, Circuit Judge
Voted for Richard Holbrooke to be Ambassador to the UN
Voted for Margaret Morrow to be District Judge
Voted twice for Marsha Berzon to the 9thg Circuit
Voted for Mary McLaughlin to be District Judge
Voted for Tim Dyk to be District Judge
Voted for James Brady to be District Judge

Voted against National Right to Work Act
Voted against Real of Davis-Bacon Prevailing union wages
Voted for Alexis Herman to be Secretary of Labor
Voted for mandatory Federal child care funding
Voted for Trade Adjustment Assistance.
Voted for Job Corps funding
Voted twice in support of Fedex Unionization
Voted against allowing a waiver of Davis-Bacon in emergency situations.
Voted for minimum wage increases six times here here here here here and here
Voted to require a union representative on an IRS oversight board.
Voted to exempt IRS union representative from criminal ethics laws.
Voted against creating independent Board of Governors to investigate IRS abuses.

Voted to require pawn shops to do background checks on people who pawn a gun.
Voted twice to make it illegal to sell a gun without a secure storage or safety device
Voted for a Federal ban on possession of “assault weapons” by those under 18.
Voted for Federal funding for anti-gun education programs in schools.
Voted for anti-gun juvenile justice bill.


Voted for funding for the legal services corporation.
Voted twice for a Congressional payraise.
Voted to impose a uniform Federal mandate on states to force them to allow convicted rapits, arsonists, drug kingpins, and all other ex-convicts to vote in Federal elections.
Voted for the Specter “backup plan” to allow campaign finance reform to survive if portions of the bill were found unconstitutional.
Voted to mandate discounted broadcast times for politicians.
Voted for a McCain amendment to require State and local campaign committees to report all campaign contributions to the FEC and to require all campaign contributions to be reported to the FEC within 24 hours within 90 days of an election.

Voted against increasing the number of immigration investigators
Voted to allow illegal immigrants to receive the earned income credit before becoming citizens
Voted to give SSI benefits to legal aliens.
Voted to give welfare benefits to naturalized citizens without regard to to the earnings of their sponsors.
Voted against hiring an additional 1,000 border partrol agents, paid for by reductions in state grants.

Voted against a flat tax.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for Medicare prescription drugs
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to fund health insurance subsidies for small businesses.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for an $8 billion increase in child healh insurance.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for an increase in NIH funding.
Voted twice for internet taxes.
Voted to allow gas tax revenues to be used to subsidize Amtrak.
Voted to strike marriage penalty tax relief and instead provide fines on tobacco companies.
Voted against repealing the Clinton 4.3 cent gas tax increase.
Voted to increase taxes by $2.3 billion to pay for an Amtrak trust fund.
Voted to allow welfare to a minor who had a child out of wedlock and who resided with an adult who was on welfare within the previous two years.
Voted to increase taxes by $9.4 billion to pay for a $9.4 billion increase in student loans.
Voted to say that AMT patch is more important than capital gains and dividend relief.

Voted against food stamp reform
Voted against Medicaid reform
Voted against TANF reform
Voted to increase the Social Services Block Grant from $1 billion to $2 billion
Voted to increase the FHA loan from $170,000 to $197,000. Also opposed increasing GNMA guaranty from 6 basis points to 12.
Voted for $2 billion for low income heating assistance.

Sponsored An amendment to increase Amtrak funds by $550 million
Voted to use HUD funds for the Joslyn Art Museum (NE), the Stand Up for Animals project (RI) and the Seattle Art Museum’s Olympic Sculpture Project (WA)
Voted to increase spending on social programs by $7 billion
Voted to increase NIH funding by $1.6 billion.
Voted to increase NIHnding by $700 million
Voted to for a $2 million earmark to renovate the Vulcan Monument (AL)
Voted for a $1 billion bailout for the steel industry
Voted against requiring that highway earmarks would come out of a state’s highway allocation
Voted to allow Market Access Program funds to go to foreign companies.
Voted to allow OPIC to increase its administrative costs by 50%
Voted against transferring $20 million from Americorps to veterans.
Voted for the $140 billion asbestos compensation bill.
Voted against requiring a uniform medical criteria to ensure asbestos claims were legitimate.
Voted to increase community development programs by $2 billion.

Spending and Entitlements
Voted to make Medicare part B premium subsidies an new entitlement.
Voted against paying off the debt ($5.6 trillion at the time) within 30 years.
Voted to give $18 billion to the IMF.
Voted to raid Social Security instead of using surpluses to pay down the debt.

Health Care
Voted to allow states to impose health care mandates that are stricter than proposed new Federal mandates, but not weaker.
Voted twice for Federal mental health parity mandates in health insurance.
Voted against a allow consumers the option to purchase a plan outside the parity mandate.

Voted to increase Federal funding for teacher testing
Voted to increase spending for the Department of Education by $3.1 billion.
Voted against requiring courts to consider the impact of IDEA awards on a local school district.


Voted to allow the President to designate certain sites as interim nuclear waste storage sites in the event that he determines that Yucca Mountain is not a suitable site for a permanent waste repository. Those sites are as follows: the nuclear waste site in Hanford, Washington; the Savannah River Site in South Carolina; Barnwell County, South Carolina; and the Oak Ridge Reservation in Tennessee.

Voted to make fuel price gouging a Federal crime.

Voted AGAINST increasing the number of immigration investigators?



Perry also stated that in his administration he would start all countries getting U.S. foreign aid at ZERO, until they proved to be our allies.

He was also the first to mention the war on religion.

Rick Perry is twice the Conservative Santorum is!



153 posted on 01/17/2012 6:56:24 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: patriot08

OUCH.... just a few more reasons why Santorum won’t get my vote, the main one being he can’t possibly beat the Kenyan Marxist.

154 posted on 01/17/2012 6:59:01 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: patriot08

“Rick Perry is twice the Conservative Santorum is”


155 posted on 01/17/2012 6:59:50 PM PST by FryingPan101 (Perry 2012)
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To: mojitojoe; FryingPan101


Santorum should drop out for the sake of his country.
I doubt if his ego will let him.

156 posted on 01/17/2012 7:04:09 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

Barry Soetoro the Kenyan isn’t a NBC and apparently the courts don’t give a rat’s a$$ so let Rubio run. If the Dems are going to elect candidates that shouldn’t even be running, then we play that game too.

157 posted on 01/17/2012 7:04:30 PM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: Jim Robinson
New CBS/WSJ poll in South Carolina shows Romney at 34%, Perry at 22%, Gingrich at 16%, Paul at 13%, and Santorum at 11%. Now who needs to drop out?
158 posted on 01/17/2012 7:33:31 PM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: shield


159 posted on 01/17/2012 7:37:55 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: RedMDer; Jim Robinson; trisham; DJ MacWoW; musicman; JoeProBono; TheOldLady; upchuck

But for Romney’s and Paul’s attacks ads in Iowa on Gingrich, Santorum wouldn’t be in this race, so let’s give New Gingrich his due for fighting his way back to rebound in South Carolina now that we’re out of two purple states -— one a causcus state and the other a North Eastern state

Sarah Palin’s endorsement tonight of Newt Gingrich, should signal to his rivals, that she thinks it’s “now or never” time to STOP ROMENY in South Carolina, so the “process can continue” like she said.

I sure hope and pray South Carolina TEA Party voters are paying attention to Sarah Palin!

I know that several are disgusted with Nikki Haley’s endorsement of Romney.

I happen to like Perry second best, but agree that it would be an act of real courage for him to throw his support to Newt Gingrich right now. I don’t see Santorum stepping aside at all. I think he would be happy to be Romney’s VP.

160 posted on 01/17/2012 7:40:54 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - DONATE MONTHLY! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know!)
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