Posted on 01/12/2012 11:26:28 AM PST by TIElniff
Almost one in five New Hampshire Democratic primary voters cast their ballots Tuesday for someone other than Barack Obama.
The president still won the primary with a handsome majority: 81.9 percent of the vote.
But the fact that more than 18 percent of New Hampshire voters who took Democratic primary ballots chose to write in the name of another candidate—anti-war Republican Ron Paul was the second-place finisher in the primary with 2,273 write-ins—or to vote for one of the little-known contenders whose names were on the ballot with Obama’s begs a question: What if a prominent progressive had mounted a primary challenge to the president?
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Elijah (Ron Paul)
Wow...
Not sure what to even say on that one...
Just a figurative way of making the point, not a spiritual or theological assertion! No, I don’t believe that Ron Paul is Elijah!
If you want to insewrt Ron Paul into your fictional arrangement, you would have to take George Soros as Elijah and Ron Paul as Elisha. Stop while you’re not too far exposed, dude.
No?
Okey Dokey...
You are insane. I can say because I have a psych degree.
I have said it before and I will say it again.
Ron Paul knows the Constitution in the same way Fred Phelps knows the Bible.
are you serious???
No, Really, are you SERIOUS???
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAH
With all due respect..I don’t think it requires a psych degree to spot that kind of crazy.
was it you I got my tagline from? I forgot
Probably/maybe, however I borrowed (about two weeks ago) it from a friend and am now using (in various forms to fit the situation) when ever I can.
It is a perfect description of Paul.
“You are insane. I can say because I have a psych degree.”
Congratulations on your psych degree. So, I throw myself down on your couch. Please explain your psychological analysis, doctor.
I only have a minor in English literature, but I do understand the nature of literary allusion,metaphor, and simile, and hope that you will take them into consideration in making your analysis.
I’ll throw the couch down here myself.
If you go through this and STILL support Ron paul..YOU ARE CRAZY!
Ron Paul supports legal dope and prostitution
http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/05/06/Ron_Paul_on_Prostitution_Gay_
Marriage/
Starts half way in the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mz9pDGHBTo&feature=related
Nevada prostitutes endorse Ron Paul
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/06/nevada-prostitutes-endorse-ron-paul/
White supremecist David Duke endorses Ron Paul;
http://patdollard.com/2011/12/former-kkk-grand-wizard-david-duke-says-he
%E2%80%99s-voting-for-ron-paul/
Ron Paul refuses to disavow STORMFRONT associations
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/45537/ron-paul-refuses-to-disavow-stormfront-
other-anti-semitic-racist-groups-openly-campaigning-for-him/
Ron Paul SUPPORTS NAMBLA
http://videosift.com/video/Does-Ron-Paul-Support-NAMBLA-Well-yes-and-no
http://www.dailypaul.com/70100/age-of-consent?page=1
Why do the Ron Paul guys support gay marriage?
http://www.queerty.com/ron-paul-on-gay-marriage-20071210/
the 2008 RONULAN economic advisor to Ron paul saying that libertarians need to
infiltrate the GOP
Libertarians need to infiltrate the GOP
VIDEO of Schiff saying just that!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ncLTFoTFa8
An organization called Student Scholars for 9/11 Truth video taped an inpromtu
appearance with Ron Paul and recorded some of his comments. They can be found
here:
http://michellemalkin.com/2007/05/19/trutheriness-and-ron-paul/
While Ron Paul has said on TV shows such as Glen Beck that he dismisses the
major theories, he openly says there is a coverup of what went on yet refuses to
elaborate on just what is covered up. The 9/11 Comission clearly showed that
intelligence failures happened because of Clinton era laws that prevented our
inteligence agancies from communicating with each other.
On the website CONSPIRACY PLANET, information about Ron Paul and issues similar
to this can be found:
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?ChannelID=90
Ron Paul has publically said that the CIA has accomplished a coup against
America and needs to be taken out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dECSYm5bSM
A direct quote from this conference is as such:
(January 20, 2010) House Rep. Ron Paul says the CIA has in effect carried out a
“coup” against the US government, and the intelligence agency needs to be “taken
out.”
Speaking to an audience of like-minded libertarians at a Campaign for Liberty
regional conference in Atlanta this past weekend, the Texas Republican said:
“There’s been a coup, have you heard? It’s the CIA coup. The CIA runs
everything, they run the military. They’re the ones who are over there lobbing
missiles and bombs on countries...”
Additional video proof of him saying this here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SZKLvEOp9c
And here is one prominant website that supports the 9/11 conspiracy theories,
calling for a RON PAUL PROVISIONAL ARMY to take over after we investigate the
9/11 events:
http://how911wasdone.blogspot.com/
Among the other kooky connections to Ron Paul, is a UFO COnnection. I have yet
to find the original article, but numerous articles repeat the belief of Ron
Paul’s that UFO’s are real. Some of the Ron Paul sites have soeone trying to
mock this belief, but the Ron Paul site, DailyPaul.com says this:
http://dailypaul.com/node/125999
This has been repeated again in San Francisco, not known to support
conservatives or Libertarians anyways, but associated with Ron Paul out there
were UFO enthusiasts mentioned in this article:
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2007/08/ron_pauls_ufo_sighter_friends.php
How is it that the kookiest ideas are surrounding Ron Paul?
Ron Paul, UFO disclosure, etc... simply nothing more than a pacifier — a
distraction!
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message462483/pg1
Ron Paul supported by anti-war group CODE PINK
http://www.dailypaul.com/165272/anti-war-group-code-pink-counts-ron-paul-in-their-camp-on-israel-aid-opposition
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/18/rep-paul-codepink-camp-israel-aid-
opposition/
Ron Paul and his acolytes are following George Soros on the defense of our nation, and connections between the two have been proved
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/01/02/ron-pauls-soros-defense-plan/
Tehran TV LOVES Ron Paul!
http://www.aim.org/special-report/tehran-tv-loves-ron-paul/
Ron Paul supported by anti-war group CODE PINK
http://www.dailypaul.com/165272/anti-war-group-code-pink-counts-ron-paul-in-their-camp-on-israel-aid-opposition
Glenn Beck exposes Ron Paul’s ties to Soros. Does it shock you, or does it do much to explain why Ron Paul is friendly with “Bawney” Frank and almost as bad as Obama is when it comes to illegal aliens and Islam? Listen to video please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFSHGhq19CM
Dennis Prager point sout Ron Paul’s lunacy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qqHAoXRVk4g
Ron Paul says he is against the NDAA bill, so why didn’t he VOTE AGAINST it??
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/06/ron-paul-supporters-claim-he-opposes-the-ndaa-so-why-didnt-he-vote-on-it/
“are you serious???
No, Really, are you SERIOUS???”
Please see my response (no. 31 below) to the guy with the psych degree.
Which part of what I have written do you think is “unserious,” given the use of literary devices? (A serious response will get you a serious answer.)
Several GOP canidates got writes ins in the Democratic balloting......
Huntsman got 1228
Romney got 1808
Obama got 283 write ins in the GOP balloting process.
Click the following for results:
Democratic: http://www.sos.nh.gov/presprim2012/DemSummaryPres.htm
Republican: http://www.sos.nh.gov/presprim2012/RepSummaryPres.htm
One of the greatest things about a psych degree is you don’t have to anything, just guild the couchee to their own conclusions.
(Ok seriously, my psych degree is in industrial psych. You know that degree where we do what we can to make the employee think they are loved and valued by the company whether they are or not.)
You should try over on the allusion, metaphor, and simile dealy, the one you used was a huge fail.
Do you mind Race if I ping carenot to this post?
Bump!
If EVER there was a post to prove that Ron Paul and his followers/minions were all batsh!t crazy, THIS is the post!
It's deranged lunatics like Nazis, Islamofascists and communists that start comparing their leaders to Biblical prophets.
typical trained RONULAN response, ignore the fact, repeat the manta as trained to do in your RONULAN seminar on disrupting threads
Race:
This is pretty good stuff. I read/watched/listened to it all, and made notes. I’m going to go through your list and add my comments in bold italics, for your consideration. (I’m hoping my word processor copy will import into Free Republic!)
All-in-all, I thought most of the stuff was positive for Ron Paul, not negative. It made me wonder if you really read the stuff yourself.
Someone once said that “All is yellow to the jaundiced eye.” I think people only see what they want to see, not what is really there, or what the fine distinctions are. The benefit of reading slowly and carefully is that of picking up nuances of meaning and condition. It helps wonderfully in making judgments.
To work!
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If you go through this and STILL support Ron paul..YOU ARE CRAZY!
Ron Paul supports legal dope and prostitution
http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/05/06/Ron_Paul_on_Prostitution_Gay_
I got an HTTP 404: The resource cannot be found.
Marriage/
Starts half way in the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mz9pDGHBTo&feature=related
There was nothing about marriage in this clip. It was, in fact, a very positive Ron Paul commercial.
Nevada prostitutes endorse Ron Paul
Http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/06/nevada-prostitutes-endorse-ron-paul/
So what? There was no reason given while the Nevada prostitutes endorse Ron Paul. I’ll bet that prostitutes have the same concerns as everybody else about inflation and the value of the dollars that get stuffed in their panties (or worse!). The soundness of the economy and the money supply is of concern to everyone, prostitutes and pimps included. True, the prostitutes didn’t say that, but they didn’t say anything else either, especially whether Ron Paul was a favorite client.
White supremecist David Duke endorses Ron Paul;
http://patdollard.com/2011/12/former-kkk-grand-wizard-david-duke-says-he
%E2%80%99s-voting-for-ron-paul/
David Duke said that he favored Ron Paul because he (Paul) was opposed to the use of government power in banking, the media, in government influence, in campaign finance.
Now Duke attributed that abuse of power to Jews. But Ron Paul opposes that abuse of power to anyone. Those two differing views of things may overlap, but they are not identical.
Ron Paul refuses to disavow STORMFRONT associations
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/45537/ron-paul-refuses-to-disavow-stormfront-
other-anti-semitic-racist-groups-openly-campaigning-for-him/
It is true that Ron Paul doesn’t disavow or denounce the StormFront associations, but neither does he endorse them. The article even indicates that Ron Paul said that he “would not be happy with” their positions. And the author notes that their views “have not exactly been warmly received.” Again, the presence of overlapping views does not equal identity of views.
And further: The anti-semetic groups favor Ron Paul because he is opposed to the Federal Reserve Board. They like that because they consider that the Fed is run by Jews. Ron Paul opposes the Fed for economic reasons, not racial or religious reasons. He would oppose the Fed even if it were run by Episcopalians, Catholics, Baptists, or Presbyterians, or Germans, Englishmen, Chinese, or Africans.
Ron Paul SUPPORTS NAMBLA
http://videosift.com/video/Does-Ron-Paul-Support-NAMBLA-Well-yes-and-no
http://www.dailypaul.com/70100/age-of-consent?page=1
This video was marked “private.” (Probably with good reason.)
Why do the Ron Paul guys support gay marriage?
Http://www.queerty.com/ron-paul-on-gay-marriage-20071210/
Ron Paul’s position on this issue is that the Federal Government should have no jurisdiction or standing on this issue. If any institution has standing to rule, it should be the States. And marriage should be left up to the churches, not to the state (government). It does not indicate moral approval of gay marriage to observe that the matter is beyond the scope of state power.
Question for you: Why is approval of gay marriage bad when Ron Paul approves it, but is good when Barak Obama (or some other liberal) approves it?
the 2008 RONULAN economic advisor to Ron paul saying that libertarians need to
infiltrate the GOP. Libertarians need to infiltrate the GOP. VIDEO of Schiff saying just that!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ncLTFoTFa8
What’s wrong with that? Do you remember Barry Goldwater at the 1960 Republican Convention telling conservatives: “Conservatives, let’s grow up and take over this party!” Schiff, in this video, is suggesting a strategy for the Libertarian Party: Let’s turn the Republican Party into the Libertarian Party by pressing our issues there. Nothing wrong with that unless one is so wedded to the traditional Republican Party that its fuzziness on the issues is considered sacrosanct.
An organization called Student Scholars for 9/11 Truth video taped an inpromtu
appearance with Ron Paul and recorded some of his comments. They can be found
Here: http://michellemalkin.com/2007/05/19/trutheriness-and-ron-paul/
First: Loaded words and terms are always a distraction and not worthy of an accomplished journalist. She needs to edit out a good number of loaded adjectives.
Second: The imbedded video has been removed by the user, whoever that is.
Third: It appears from the written description that Ron Paul was carefully hedging his comments and trying not to commit himself to their (the Student Scholars) conspiracy view, and then his comments were distorted by the Student Scholars.
But even I would like to ee an investigation of 9/11 as a coverup of something. I’d also like to see an official report on Building No. 7. I understand that one has never been produced.
While Ron Paul has said on TV shows such as Glen Beck that he dismisses the
major theories, he openly says there is a coverup of what went on yet refuses to
elaborate on just what is covered up. The 9/11 Comission clearly showed that
intelligence failures happened because of Clinton era laws that prevented our
intelligence agencies from communicating with each other.
On the website CONSPIRACY PLANET, information about Ron Paul and issues similar
to this can be found: http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?ChannelID=90
Ron Paul asserts that “there is a definite connection” between the intelligence failures and the events of 9/11, and that his views of the issue has been misconstrued. This video was a replay of an interview with Bob Schieffer on “Face the Nation” where Schieffer brought up all the controversial questions that have been generated by Ron Paul. I thought he gave acceptable and rational answers to the questions, and I especially interested in Schieffer’s response to each: “Let me move on. . . .” That’s typical of the liberal press: They never respond to a good argument; they just “move on.”
And even the headline writer noticed it: The headline was “Ron Paul Bitch Slaps Media Whore Bob Schieffer.”
Ron Paul has publically said that the CIA has accomplished a coup against
America and needs to be taken out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dECSYm5bSM
A direct quote from this conference is as such:
(January 20, 2010) House Rep. Ron Paul says the CIA has in effect carried out a
“coup” against the US government, and the intelligence agency needs to be “taken
out.”
Ron Paul asserts that the CIA runs the military, is like a government unto themselves, and are even engaged in the drug trade. I can’t speak to those charges, but I do know that he is not the only one who is concerned about the excessive-influence of the CIA in international and military affairs. To be concerned and to express such concerns is not irresponsible. His reminder that sacrificing liberty for security in the short run usually means losing both in the longer run is very much in order.
Speaking to an audience of like-minded libertarians at a Campaign for Liberty
regional conference in Atlanta this past weekend, the Texas Republican said:
“There’s been a coup, have you heard? It’s the CIA coup. The CIA runs
everything, they run the military. They’re the ones who are over there lobbing
missiles and bombs on countries...”
Additional video proof of him saying this here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SZKLvEOp9c
See the comment immediately above.
And here is one prominant website that supports the 9/11 conspiracy theories,
calling for a RON PAUL PROVISIONAL ARMY to take over after we investigate the
9/11 events:
http://how911wasdone.blogspot.com/
Did you even read this website? It does not appear to be irresponsible babbling, but a care consideration of the alternatives to the official report.
Among the other kooky connections to Ron Paul, is a UFO COnnection. I have yet
to find the original article, but numerous articles repeat the belief of Ron
Paul’s that UFO’s are real. Some of the Ron Paul sites have soeone trying to
mock this belief, but the Ron Paul site, DailyPaul.com says this:
http://dailypaul.com/node/125999
Apparently the British government does believe that there is something going on there.
But the links do not work.
This has been repeated again in San Francisco, not known to support
conservatives or Libertarians anyways, but associated with Ron Paul out there
were UFO enthusiasts mentioned in this article:
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2007/08/ron_pauls_ufo_sighter_friends.php
So what? Maybe the UFO kooks are like the Nevada prostitutes: they, too, would like sound money and a stable economy. Just because kooks and whores like Ron Paul doesn’t tell us why they like him. It may have nothing to do with UFOs and prostitution; it have something to do with economics and freedom.
How is it that the kookiest ideas are surrounding Ron Paul?
Ron Paul, UFO disclosure, etc... simply nothing more than a pacifier — a
distraction!
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message462483/pg1
Here’s the telling quote from the article: “The global powers that be will be damned if they are not going to place their pieces exactly how they want to . . . .” That Ron Paul’s real offense, the one that over-shadows everything else: he threatens the established and vested interests.
Ron Paul supported by anti-war group CODE PINK
http://www.dailypaul.com/165272/anti-war-group-code-pink-counts-ron-paul-in-their-camp-on-israel-aid-opposition
This is a case of who is moving toward whom? The telling quote: “ The anti-war group is getting closer to his views. That’s one thing, but he’s certainly not looking to them for policy information.” Ron Paul’s views are issue specific. Other may agree with him whereas he may not agree with them.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/18/rep-paul-codepink-camp-israel-aid-
opposition/
Page not found.
Ron Paul and his acolytes are following George Soros on the defense of our nation, and connections between the two have been proved
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/01/02/ron-pauls-soros-defense-plan/
Ron Paul will join anyone who shares his position. Francis Schaeffer, Christian theologian and apologist, used to speak of the cooperation between Catholics and Protestants on the issue of abortion that they were “co-belligerents, not allies.” That seems to me to be a good description of Ron Paul in relation to all these other groups that are considered to be negatives and embarrassments.
Qiestion for you: Why is it OK for Soros to fund all kinds of liberal groups and activists, but not OK for him to be funding conservative groups and activists, or for conservative groups and activists to take advantage of the organizations he has funded?
Tehran TV LOVES Ron Paul!
http://www.aim.org/special-report/tehran-tv-loves-ron-paul/
So? Maybe that’s a good sign. That Ron Paul will be able to negotiate and cooperate with the Iranians, turning them from enemies into friends. Free trade and non-intervention in internal affairs may enhance the chances of peaceful relations. Nations, said Frederic Bastiat, must either trade or fight.
Ron Paul supported by anti-war group CODE PINK
http://www.dailypaul.com/165272/anti-war-group-code-pink-counts-ron-paul-in-their-camp-on-israel-aid-opposition
This is a duplicate of an item above. See the answer there.
Glenn Beck exposes Ron Paul’s ties to Soros. Does it shock you, or does it do much to explain why Ron Paul is friendly with “Bawney” Frank and almost as bad as Obama is when it comes to illegal aliens and Islam? Listen to video please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFSHGhq19CM
Same answer as the question above. It appears that Soros gave money to everybody and every cause he favored. It should not surprise us that there will be overlap in interests. That there is overlap does not indicate agreement except in those areas where the interests overlap.
Dennis Prager points out Ron Paul’s lunacy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qqHAoXRVk4g
The relevant quote from this piece: “I don’t understand, but I will still comment. . . .” Need I say more? And you guys think the “Paultards” are hateful? This guy is not doing your cause any good.
Prager says that Ron Paul is lying when he talks about the statistics of black / white incarcerations and capital punishment. The actual statistics are mentioned in the comment section under Prager’s vituperative speech: Whites make up 64 percent of the population and 48 percent of the capital executions. Blacks make up 12 percent of the population but 41 percent of the capital executions. I can’t vouch for these statistics, but there they were, in the footnotes.
Ron Paul says he is against the NDAA bill, so why didn’t he VOTE AGAINST it??
Http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/01/06/ron-paul-supporters-claim-he-opposes-the-ndaa-so-why-didnt-he-vote-on-it/
Yeah, I don’t understand that myself. I would have thought that he would want to be on the record against the NDAA bill. But I do note that it wouldn’t have made any difference (except for the record). The vote was 283 for, 136 against, and 14 not voting.
Well, Race, that’s it. I’ll be interested in your responses. But, please, no ad hominem arguments. It doesn’t further the debate to just keep yelling “You’re Crazy.” I promised you serious answers if you would ask serious questions. I think you did, and I tried to. If I failed, then I’ll try again. If I got it wrong, I’ll try to get it right. But unsupported assertions don’t help.
And another question you need to consider: Is there any amount of evidence or rational argument that will change your mind about Ron Paul? If not there is not much use in further discussion. “The open mind,” said Whittaker Chambers, “is always closed on one end.”
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