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Another tourist busted for guns
nypost.com ^ | 10 January, 2012 | JAMIE SCHRAM

Posted on 01/11/2012 5:34:54 PM PST by marktwain

An Ohio man who has a gun permit in his home state is the latest city tourist to be caught in the web of New York’s strict gun laws, The Post has learned.

Fred Vankirk, 59, of Columbus, was slapped with handcuffs at about 11 a.m. Saturday after cops found two .357 Magnum pistols and a .45 semiautomatic in his room at the Radisson Hotel on Lexington Avenue near East 48th Street, police sources said.

One of the Magnums, a five-shot revolver, had been spotted loaded and sitting in plain view on a nightstand, the sources said.

Vankirk, who has no criminal history, told the arresting officer, “I have three guns in the hotel room. Is that what this is about?” a court complaint alleges.

Later, in a videotaped interview at the Manhattan DA’s Office, he told authorities he had been in New York for about three weeks and had the guns for protection, police sources said.

He was charged with three counts of second-degree gun possession and being held on $50,000 bond, court papers show. Each count carries a potential sentence of five to 15 years, to be served concurrently if a conviction results.

The arrest follows two city gun busts of US citizens who had valid gun permits in their home states.

Tennessee nurse Meredith Graves was arrested on Dec. 22 after she tried to check her .32-caliber Kel-Tec pistol at the 9/11 Memorial. Indiana jeweler Ryan Jerome, 28, was nabbed after trying to check his .45 Ruger at the Empire State Building on Sept. 27.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; gun; ny
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This might be a good supreme court case, as he had the guns in his temporary residence for defense, which the court has said is a fundamental constituional right.
1 posted on 01/11/2012 5:35:04 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Back to the top.


2 posted on 01/11/2012 5:41:20 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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I hope all these people ban together and sue or file some action. This is frickin crazy and I thought the Supreme Court already decided this. We have a constitutional right in this country that should supercede the tyrannical dictates of local communities. The first amendment doesn’t apply willy nilly nor should the 2nd. This is why I don’t want to go out East. Boycott leftist, stupid New York.


3 posted on 01/11/2012 5:42:28 PM PST by beaversmom
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What a bunch of idiots! ALWAYS know the laws where you are taking your firearms.


4 posted on 01/11/2012 5:43:23 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: marktwain

We are all for states rights, but sometimes it is hard.


5 posted on 01/11/2012 5:44:13 PM PST by napscoordinator (Go Rick! Go Rick! Go Newt! Let's get 'er done.)
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A real dufus for leaving a weapon out in full view. “Spotted” by a Radisson employee? No more Radisson for me.


6 posted on 01/11/2012 5:44:16 PM PST by Apercu ("Obama is graffiti on the wall of American History")
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To: marktwain

Civil rights violation by NYC.


7 posted on 01/11/2012 5:45:09 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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This from a sheeple at the link: "Why don't these tourist just stay the F*** home? We don't need people walking around with guns. If they're afraid for they're safety then they shouldn't come to NYC. They're only a danger to those of us who live here, not to mention the fact that they're breaking the law. I hope the judge throws the book at this guy to send a message: NO GUNS!"

I agree. Any 2nd amendment respecting person should boycott New York.

8 posted on 01/11/2012 5:45:30 PM PST by beaversmom
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When I was young, I probably would have visited New York, Chicago or California and simply left my guns at home.

As I have gotten older, my attitude has changed to the extent that I simply will not visit one of those places.

It is surprising how careless people can be tho. My Brother took a .32 auto pistol to Mexico and back without remembering he had it. Fortunately he wasn’t ever searched but goodness some of those places just can’t wait to prosecute gun owners.


9 posted on 01/11/2012 5:51:30 PM PST by yarddog
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To: napscoordinator; All
We are all for states rights, but sometimes it is hard.

I am for proper state powers, to counter federal power. States do not have rights, they have powers.

Second Amendment does not say the "congress shall make not law infringing the right to keep and bear arms". It says " the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Early state supreme court cases recognized that fact.

Now we have the 14th amendment, which was written, in part, to insure that the rights of individuals to keep and bear arms would not be infringed by the states, which doubly insures that the states have no legitimate power to infringe on the right to keep and bear arms.

10 posted on 01/11/2012 5:52:50 PM PST by marktwain
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I don’t go to Nevada because of Harry Reid.

I don’t go to NYC because of their gun laws.

Next question?


11 posted on 01/11/2012 5:54:13 PM PST by hadaclueonce (scrap copper is more than $3.00 a pound. wind generators are full of copper)
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I’d love to go to California to see a redwood forest, but my husband refuses to go out there. I have to agree that it’s best not to venture there.


12 posted on 01/11/2012 5:54:22 PM PST by beaversmom
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Vote with your $ and let them know.

Simple.


13 posted on 01/11/2012 5:56:23 PM PST by hadaclueonce (scrap copper is more than $3.00 a pound. wind generators are full of copper)
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Second Amendment does not say the “congress shall make not law infringing the right to keep and bear arms”. It says “ the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” Early state supreme court cases recognized that fact.

Now we have the 14th amendment, which was written, in part, to insure that the rights of individuals to keep and bear arms would not be infringed by the states, which doubly insures that the states have no legitimate power to infringe on the right to keep and bear arms.

BUMP


14 posted on 01/11/2012 6:03:59 PM PST by fanfan (This is not my Father's Canada.)
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To: marktwain

Dang. What does he need all that hardware for?


16 posted on 01/11/2012 6:20:27 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> - - -)
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There have been wars and civil disobedience over the inherent right of people to peaceably travel from point A to point B in this country without interference from highwaymen, hired guns, slave hunters, supposed law officers, etc.

I don't know why anybody would go to or through New York until somebody or some group of somebodies does something about this. As soon as that gets done, they can start on airport security and those infernal highway checkpoints / fishing expeditions.

17 posted on 01/11/2012 6:24:28 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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Dang. What does he need all that hardware for?

He's in New York City. Personally, I think he's carrying a little light.

18 posted on 01/11/2012 6:39:28 PM PST by 41Thunder (The SUPPLY of Government is GREATER than the DEMAND of the people)
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Anyone who travels to NYC in the first place must have serious mental illness. Who in their right mind would voluntarily go to NYC? Guy should plead insanity!


19 posted on 01/11/2012 6:52:18 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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Has any state ever issued a travel warning to its citizens about another state? Kind of like the fed does for certain countries.


20 posted on 01/11/2012 7:19:27 PM PST by rfreedom4u (Forced diversity causes dissent!)
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