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To: DoughtyOne

I think you said a nice sentiment, but from what I have seen since 1996, I doubt we have good poll watching

While Dole was a clown, CLINTON was our worst president and enough people knew of his treason and were furious at him, yet he wins with a 60% margin??

Gore/LIEberman coming so close in 2000?

If Kerry wasn’t so pompous, I think it would have been closer, but in 2008, I just dont see all the millions of ballots that we KNEW were fraudulent and also commented on here so much then as being dismissable

we are in grave danger from voter fraud, and I am not happy at a national ID card, which if honest is the only cure


147 posted on 12/25/2011 5:15:41 AM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: RaceBannon

That dynamic may have played into it. I certainly can’t say for certain that it didn’t. We do know that Chicago based action group was registering anything that moved eligible or not. It wouldn’t be that much out of line for them to have done other things to defraud the system, and that’s not the only region where they or someone else could have done it. I acknowledge that.

What I focus on, and perhaps too much so, is the more mundane typical campaign style of the Republican and Democrat candidates since Reagan.

In each election, the Democrat was feeding red meat to their base. In each election, the Republican was feeding warmed over spam to their base.

I’ll bet you can remember what Reagan was selling even to this day. Do you remember what Bush the elder was selling in 1992. Do you remember what Dole was selling in 1996? Do you remember what Bush was selling in either of his campaigns? Do you remember what McCain was selling even in 2008?

Maybe I’m full of hot air, but it’s my take that during the last thirty years, the Democrats have been selling a clear vision to their base. In our efforts, we have acted as if our base already knew what we supported, and we didn’t have to explain it.

We put these lackluster milk-toasts out there, and can’t understand why the public doesn’t see them as their leading men.

Bush the elder ran almost no campaign at all. Bob Dull actually fell off the platform. Bush’s message in 2000 was muddled. In 2004, I think he was re-elected based on 09/11 and the war in Iraq. In 2008, if it hadn’t been for Sarah Palin, McCain pulls in 30% of the vote. How man times did you read here, I’m voting for Palin, not McCain. It was probably about as many times as you read I’m will never vote for the likes of McCain. Man, if a guy can’t win us over, how can we expect others to vote for him?

Is it Democrat dirty tricks, or our lackluster sub-par leading candidates? I’m leaning towards milk-toast at the moment. I do think you have a good alternative reason. Perhaps we’re going to meet somewhere in the middle.


160 posted on 12/25/2011 10:12:03 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Santorum..., are you giving it some thought? I knew you would.)
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