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To: ssaftler

Morality and ethics should be taught at home not enforced by the State. College was/is supposed to be about questioning and inquiry. As to the Wrong Paul comment go screw yourself. There is a war being waged against Men and Boys in our Feminized Education system. The young Men are entitled to due process a hearing at least to determine the person or persons responsible. The Nazis punished captured and occupied populations with the same method. It is called Fascism, the US used to be about Individual Liberty and Freedom. That includes the right to be an idiot and to say stupid things. If this survey led to criminal behavior we have laws to punish this.

This is thought crimes against the State. It smacks of the old USSR. I condemn boorish behavior. You are advocating punishment of the group for the actions of a person. You need to rethink your strategy. If you want to call me Wrong Paul for supporting Liberty. Thanks for the compliment. For the record. I am related to the Executive Presiding Judge of the Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal. I understand History and have met persons who were imprisoned under the Old Soviet and East German system.


15 posted on 12/19/2011 8:02:44 AM PST by Khankrumthebulgar
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To: Khankrumthebulgar; ssaftler; MrEdd; Dr. Brian Kopp; trisham; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; ...
Morality and ethics should be taught at home not enforced by the State.

That is among the stupidest things I've EVER read.

Here is what our Founding Fathers believed:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,

Governments exist to protect individual rights and that means enforcing morality.

I suspect you are some sort of libertarian/anarchist who doesn't believe in government at all, but the reality is that ALL LAWS are about morality.

By your asinine philosophy government should do nothing to enforce laws against murder because it should be taught at home.

16 posted on 12/19/2011 8:09:37 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Khankrumthebulgar

I think you need to pay closer attention. The national fraternity decided, after an investigation, to close the Vermont chapter. Neither the government or its quasi-proxy the university had anything to do with it. Sig Ep is clearly positioning itself to revive the chapter at a future date.

In my opinion, if the survey had been “who would you like to have sex with”, rather than “who would you like to rape”, it would probably have been received differently, though not embraced, certainly.


17 posted on 12/19/2011 8:10:50 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: Khankrumthebulgar
If you want to call me Wrong Paul for supporting Liberty. Thanks for the compliment.

Um, please check your reply button. I think you confused me with another post. I was noting that the Sigma Phi Epsilon chapter at the college I attended some 30 years ago has had similar problems to these idiots in Vermont. And they were pulling these "pranks" long before the current wave of Politically Correct BS (which I have maintained for years is neither Political nor Correct) began to rear its ugly head.

18 posted on 12/19/2011 8:11:17 AM PST by ssaftler ("John Galt, we need you!")
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Morality and ethics should be taught at home not enforced by the State.

That is the lamest sorry excuse for libertarian, anarchist thinking to ever be used and yet libertarian types never fail to trot it out.

Every law on the books is morality and ethics enforced by the state?

Or do you purpose doing away with laws against murder, rape, perjury, theft, slander, vandalism, etc?

23 posted on 12/19/2011 8:29:43 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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