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To: Las Vegas Ron
I grew up during the Cold War, learning to hide under my desk from the time I was in kindergarten. Nukes that could destroy the world over many times -- films about nuclear radiation, life in bomb shelters after nuclear winter and nuclear created monsters were the staple of my youth. I'm old now, I don't scare that easy anymore.

3000/300,000,000. Chances are far better I'll go of old age and so will you -- unless we get some whacko yahoo in the White House who pulls the trigger to soon.

Life--and foreign policy --is and has always been a risk. All I can say is that I have far less confidence in continuing the foreign policy mindset that has gotten to 9/11 and to where we are now, than I do in one that changes course in another direction -- a direction that sooner or later we are going to have no choice about changing because we will be too broke to continue. So do we make that choice when we actually have some dignity and strength about making a choice? Or do we wait until we have no choice, we are weak and our enemies know our every vulnerability? I choose the former.

78 posted on 12/16/2011 1:30:12 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe; Las Vegas Ron

Twelver Shiites believe they can force the Twelfth Mahdi to appear by igniting chaos and destruction.
Amadinnerjacket is a Twelver, as are most of the ruling clerics in Iran.
They believe the Twelfth Mahdi is in “occlusion” and has been for several centuries.
They believe he will show up to usher in the “peace of islam”.. i.e. Shariah for all, slaughter for ‘infidels’ and destruction of the ‘enemies of islam’.
These are not rational people we are dealing with.
They honestly believe that by killing large numbers of people they can make their ‘messiah’ appear.

Look up twelver shi’a.
It’s a real trip.


81 posted on 12/16/2011 1:49:32 PM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Bokababe
I grew up during the Cold War, learning to hide under my desk from the time I was in kindergarten.

So did I my FRiend, I also remember the air raid siren tests on the last Friday of every month at 10:00 AM

The difference then is we were facing an enemy who wanted to win, to live and had much to lose. Iran want to martyr its self to bring about the 12th Imam, or Mahdi.

Yes, the odds of dying in a terror attack for you and me are pretty high, but what American City and how many American lives are you willing to risk too test your theory? What about an EMP attack launched from a ship off the Atlantic?

What we are facing with Iran and islam in general is in no way comparable to the cold war, two totally different enemies.

What we should be doing and missed a tremendous opportunity to do so was/is aid the Iranian (Persian) people in toppling their mad mullah regime, otherwise all out, maybe nuclear war will be a certainty.

Or do we wait until we have no choice, we are weak and our enemies know our every vulnerability? I choose the former.

If Iran gets a nuke, that is exactly where we'll be, we will have no choices.

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This is interesting, in case you missed it:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/14/us-will-leave-iraqi-airspace-clear-for-strategic-i/

83 posted on 12/16/2011 1:58:41 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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