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Newt Is the Problem
National Review ^ | December 12, 2011 | Avril Roy

Posted on 12/12/2011 6:28:46 PM PST by Steelfish

DECEMBER 12, 2011 Newt Is the Problem On health-care entitlements, Newt has moved left.

Newt Gingrich’s rise to the top of the GOP polls is fueled, in part, by Republicans’ mistrust of Mitt Romney. Romney’s signature Massachusetts health-care law, the model for Obamacare, leads many to wonder whether Romney can challenge the president on this most important domestic issue.

But any conservative who opposes Romney because of Romneycare should oppose Gingrich with thrice the intensity: Newt Gingrich is one of the principal abettors of the exploding health-care entitlement state we face today. Indeed, it’s not clear what would be worse for the cause of entitlement reform: Newt’s losing to Obama or Newt’s beating him.

“I wouldn’t switch my positions for political reasons,” Gingrich recently told a South Carolina radio station, in an apparent attempt to draw a contrast between himself and Romney. And perhaps Newt is right. He doesn’t change positions out of a considered desire to attune himself to public sentiment. Apparently he changes positions based on what he had for breakfast that morning.

“On Monday, we would say we’re not going to give a $500 child tax credit to people who don’t have tax liabilities,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R., S.C.) to National Review’s Brian Bolduc. “On Wednesday, he’d meet with President Clinton, and that position would change.” Newt has displayed egregious unreliability on the issues with the highest stakes.

As Bolduc recounts from the memoir of former speaker Denny Hastert (R., Ill.), “In May 1997 . . . Newt declared the GOP willing to separate tax cuts from other items in a balanced-budget deal that we were negotiating with Bill Clinton. That was news to us and represented a huge change in policy in less than twenty-four hours.”

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
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To: ilgipper

What makes Newt unelectable is his rubberized socialist, ‘mandate’ loving spine.


51 posted on 12/12/2011 7:52:49 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Mr. Gingrich is NOT endorsed by the establishment. Even Lindsay doesn’t like him. The New World Order types reject him. I am suspect as to your reasoning.


52 posted on 12/12/2011 7:53:00 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: editor-surveyor

LOL... sure he can, sure he can. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


53 posted on 12/12/2011 7:53:21 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: editor-surveyor

Better do some more surveying, editor, if that’s your real name, before you accuse others of your own sins - projection, as modern psychologists call it. In the meantime, good luck clipping shampoo coupons with your midget loudmouth congresswoman candidate.


54 posted on 12/12/2011 7:55:14 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: eyedigress

The New World Order types love him.

Obama loves him because he destroys our biggest weapon: The healthcare mandate.


55 posted on 12/12/2011 7:56:48 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Yes. As well as Finney, Burnett, etc. Doesn’t mean we can’t arrest the decline and reverse it. That’s not something we can do with Gingrich... or Romney.


56 posted on 12/12/2011 8:00:49 PM PST by loboinok (the Truth will set you free... but one must first KNOW the Truth)
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To: loboinok
This thread is full of hollow unsubstantiated "guarantees". Here's mine:

As President, Newt Gingrich will arrest the decline in America and reverse it. Go Newt!

57 posted on 12/12/2011 8:06:11 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Revolting cat!

You keep on swinging wildly and missing, Mr. Quixote.

Mental illness is so entertaining when you let it be.


58 posted on 12/12/2011 8:08:40 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Servant of the Cross; loboinok

As speaker, Newt Gingrich arrested the rise in America and reversed it. Go to hell Newt!


59 posted on 12/12/2011 8:11:45 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Well, for one I think the SC will whack Obamacare. I also believe Romney is a big mistake. I believe Gingrich is smart enough to put Obama in his place.


60 posted on 12/12/2011 8:12:00 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Servant of the Cross

The Newt haters pack, who are most likely, since they won’t identify their preferences, supporters of some marginal candidates, of the sort that Pat Paulsen once was, are setting themselves up, hedging, really, to be able to say, whether Newt wins or loses: “I told you so!”, adding emphatically, as they do here now in their articulate ways: “STUPID!”

Ignore them, tease them, let them bark helplessly from their stinking cages!


61 posted on 12/12/2011 8:14:21 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Judging by your tagline, you’re not a 9-9-9 guy either. Now which pony are you betting on?


62 posted on 12/12/2011 8:14:31 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: eyedigress

Gingrich is smart enough to do a lot of things, but not smart enough to see what a cruel dead end global socialist tyranny is.

(and don’t count on the court)


63 posted on 12/12/2011 8:16:15 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Revolting cat!

I’m not a frantic Newt basher, nor even a Newt basher, but I think it’s ok to bring problems up and deal with them prior to choosing a candidate.

And my preference is readily available by looking at my tag line.


64 posted on 12/12/2011 8:18:39 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: editor-surveyor

I don’t understand why you think he is supportive of a Global Government.


65 posted on 12/12/2011 8:19:30 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Servant of the Cross

After Palin bowed out, I was supporting Cain, but the American people are such sheep they let the mediots destroy an honest man and replace him with a lying serial adulterer, and hater of conservatives.


66 posted on 12/12/2011 8:20:41 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: altura

I agree. Newt/Perry or vice versa wouldn’t be a bad ticket, I tend to think.


67 posted on 12/12/2011 8:21:53 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: eyedigress

He endorsed Heidi Toffler’s book, and even wrote the foreward. What other conclusion can be drawn?


68 posted on 12/12/2011 8:22:41 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: loboinok

Was Mr. Webster discussing Illinois as a particular or a general example for that quote?


69 posted on 12/12/2011 8:23:43 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: editor-surveyor

Word on the street is that Herman Cain is endorsing Newt tomorrow at a press conference in Georgia.


70 posted on 12/12/2011 8:24:13 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: editor-surveyor

Newt is not my favorite but that statement about him is ridiculous and over the top.

If nominated, Newt would win.


71 posted on 12/12/2011 8:24:13 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Revolting cat!

>> “Ignore them, tease them, let them bark helplessly from their stinking cages!” <<

.
You’re pineing for company in your cell?

Why do you think they feed you on plastic through a drawer?


72 posted on 12/12/2011 8:26:19 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: editor-surveyor

“Making sense of today’s total Chaos” is not a book I have read yet so I will refrain from a response on that.


73 posted on 12/12/2011 8:27:03 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Servant of the Cross

If Herman Cain endorses Newt it will be for a couple of reasons.

One, he hates Rick Perry. Nobody can tell me why, but he was horrible to Perry who never did anything to him.

or, Two, he thinks there’s something to be had for endorsing Newt.

Or, he sympathizes with another guy who has women problems.


74 posted on 12/12/2011 8:27:15 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Word on the street is that Herman Cain is endorsing Newt tomorrow at a press conference in Georgia.

Prayers up for heart attack victims and presidential candidates Editor/Surveyor.

75 posted on 12/12/2011 8:27:36 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: altura

The mistress of Bleep!


76 posted on 12/12/2011 8:27:51 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: eyedigress

“The third Wave.”


77 posted on 12/12/2011 8:29:33 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: editor-surveyor

I will examine it and get back to you. This is what FR is all about. Merry Christmas


78 posted on 12/12/2011 8:32:39 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: editor-surveyor

Since you chose to insult me, I guess I offended you with my comment about Cain.

I did not insult Cain while he was in the race as too many people I liked were somehow swept up with the man which I totally couldn’t figure out.

I never liked him. I never trusted him and he had little or nothing to offer as a presidential candidate.

He was not innocent on the wimmen thing and it’s pathetic that people still claim an innocent man was railroaded.

That’s why he dropped out and even Rush who spent at least 20 hours defending him was rather dismissive of him the other day, saying he’s jonesin for a job on Fox News.


79 posted on 12/12/2011 8:36:10 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Sounds like more of a hope than a conviction. If a conviction; what do you base it on?


80 posted on 12/12/2011 8:37:53 PM PST by loboinok (the Truth will set you free... but one must first KNOW the Truth)
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To: 1010RD

Obviously he was referring to Christians and government in general.


81 posted on 12/12/2011 8:44:53 PM PST by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: heiss
I suggest you investigate his plans in depth. The review boards are the last step. There is no "comprehensive immigration reform" it's step by step, bill by bill, because he knows the People don't and shouldn't trust the Feds.

It starts with securing the border (by Jan 2014) and enforcing laws against employers, making deportation easier and so forth. After all of that is done, after waves of deportation and self-deportation, those stragglers left behind with very long, deep community ties might get a reprieve from their local board.

82 posted on 12/12/2011 9:44:19 PM PST by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelect Obama and Speaker Pelosi.)
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To: Steelfish
Called Paul Ryan's "Path to Prosperity, the boldest set of entitlement reforms as "right-wing social engineering"!!!!!

Actually Newt called the one-size-fits-all scheme "right wing social engineering" because it had no flexibility, offered no alternatives to pick from, offered no choices to the People.

83 posted on 12/12/2011 9:47:36 PM PST by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelect Obama and Speaker Pelosi.)
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To: editor-surveyor; Steelfish

Although Newt is not a true conservative, I wouldn’t quite call him Establishment, either. A lot of times he can be made their tool (like so many of our Republicans), but they cannot trust him. The man is not might first (or second, or third) choice. I don’t like the Toffler stuff at all. I do believe that a Gingrich nomination would not pre-empt or destroy the conservative movement in the way a Romney nomination would.

He could ne surprisingly good, or shockingly awful, but in either event better than Romney or Obama.


84 posted on 12/13/2011 3:41:07 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (May Mitt Romney be the Mo Udall of 2012.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Noot is a serious loose cannon.

You have no idea how he will betray us; the only sure thing is that he will again betray us if he is foolishly put in office.


85 posted on 12/13/2011 8:13:37 AM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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