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To: savagesusie

This is interesting. You started me Googling, and I have actually learned some things I didn’t know about Ron Paul (Thanks!). I’m sure you & I aren’t coming from exactly the same perspective on sin, but I do believe homosexuality is a pathological behavior and should be discouraged by society.

I will keep looking into this, though it probably won’t change my preference for Ron Paul because: 1) The top issue for me is SMALLER GOVERNMENT. Paul is BY FAR the best on this. Everything else is way secondary; this is THE ISSUE for me. 2) Paul values freedom above all. I have a lot of respect for that. It’s EXTREMELY rare among politicians. I understand your concern about values. It’s possible that Paul personally shares your Christian values but believes inculcating values isn’t the proper job of government. It’s always hard for people to wrap their minds around the idea that you can disapprove of an activity, but at the same time defend people’s right to do it. I am strongly against gay marriage (which I think is an absurdity) but I’m also against anti-sodomy laws (excessive intrusion of government in private lives).

Anyway I will be learning more about Paul’s positions. He’s not perfect, but he’s way ahead of the pack.

BTW something you said earlier about Jews: “since every other nation has refused to allow them to integrate and live in their countries” - actually the USA was pretty good to my great-grandparents.


175 posted on 12/10/2011 7:20:21 PM PST by mangonc2
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To: mangonc2

I was not including America in the exclusion of Jews—although they did put limits on how many Jews would be allowed into the elite universities—no more than 10%.

That always amazed me—that 3% of the population would easily dominate over 10% of university admissions in 1900— because of intelligence.

Anyways, like I say, Paul is great on many issues. I would like it better if he renewed the Founding principles of the country which states that Virtue is necessary for a free nation. Aristotle stated that Virtue was the reason for education—all the Founders believed that also. It is crucial for freedom.

Our school books back then were Biblical based and every lesson was a moral lesson based on Judeo/Christian Ethics. It is how the Founders wanted it. Local control—parent’s hired teachers (not certified by Central Government).

Machiavelli stated that virtue is the key for a Republican form of government in his Discourses. The Cultural Marxists (Marcuse particularly) urged the corruption of morals as the way to collapse America and all its institutions.

But, if Paul gets rid of the DOE, that would be a great help. Government schools are a huge corruptor of the minds and IQ of children. Paul will definitely steer us in a better direction and give us more freedom. We just can’t have government laws giving special rights to behavior urges that are destructive to human beings and health and medical facilities. It is irrational and Reason has got to be put back into Law, otherwise it is arbitrary and evil law.


176 posted on 12/10/2011 8:54:54 PM PST by savagesusie
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