Posted on 11/25/2011 9:27:38 AM PST by Steelfish
Cain’s Assertion That He Could Win Over Black Voters Is Dismissed By Analysts
Vanessa Williams November 24
Herman Cain’s turn atop the polls in the contest for the Republican presidential nomination captured the attention of journalists and pundits and sparked excitement among grass-roots conservative activists.
But is it really possible that he — a black man who overcame poverty in the segregated South to become a wealthy entrepreneur and front-runner in the GOP race — would be the one to bring African American voters back to their original political home?
Cain seems to think so. In a mailer sent to Iowa voters recently, the candidate says “as a descendent of slaves I can lead the Republican party to victory by garnering a large share of the black vote, something that has not been done since Dwight Eisenhower garnered 41 percent of the black vote in 1956.”
It is a proposition that was quickly dismissed by political scholars and analysts, including some members of Cain’s party. Although he has done better than any other black Republican presidential candidate in terms of attracting support, few believe Cain could snare a sizable number of black voters in a general election, especially against President Obama.
“If he’s talking about 41 percent of black voters in the Republican primary, he might be right,” Michael Dawson, an African American political science professor at the University of Chicago, said with a chuckle. But in a general election against President Obama, who got 95 percent of the black vote in 2008 and remains popular among African Americans, Dawson said Cain “would be lucky to get 10 percent” of the black vote.
Besides being remarkable for its optimistic electoral calculation, Cain’s claim is unusual because he has made no special effort to appeal directly to black voters.
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So a real, 100% black man, descended from slaves, a Christian and successful businessman can’t beat a proto-Muslim, half African disgrace to his office? Pull the other one, it’s got bells on it!
He can’t win them all over but he can win some over and that is more than any other republican in the race can do.
Is this “THE” Vanessa Williams?
Typical leftist media and Democrat thinking...minorities must be pandered to in order to gain their votes.
Cain is smarter than that. He's banking on the blacks who will see him for what he is, not empty promises.
GWB got 11% of the black vote in 2004; there's no reason to think Cain couldn't get 15-20%. I'll guarantee this: None of the other Republicans would get more than 7% (and that may be optimistic.)
I don’t know why Cain would waste time and money reaching out to Black voters in the runup to the Republican primaries. How many Blacks are registered as Republican?
Well, in the state where I live, MD, you have to be a registered republican to vote on the GOP primary. Black registrations are 85% plus for the Dems, I think. So it may not help Cain much in this state for the primary.
No.
Open primaries in several states.
“He can’t win them all over but he can win some over and that is more than any other republican in the race can do.”
That’s a fact. And that will win him the election.
He doesn’t have to get huge numbers of black votes to win in places like Michigan. Just pulling 2 or 3 percent more than Mitt Romney could end Romney’s race.
Obviously the race against Obama would be tougher but his chances against Obama here are better than anyone else.
Its also our best chance of finally ending the race based politics once and for all.
I think Herman can beat Obama, but he won't pull the sort of support from black voters that he thinks he will. Maybe I'm just cynical because I used to be a black Democrat, but I just don't see him doing it.
Being a conservative Republican is a deal-breaker that trumps race for most black voters. It's going to take more than the election of a right-wing black president to shift a significant portion of blacks out of the slave party.
Far better.
“Is this “THE” Vanessa Williams?”
I had wondered the same.
Now that we know the answer is “no,” the actress is so very talented.
(Since I am not PC, I use the word “actress.”)
The author is an idiot.
No one in their right mind would waste time courting the Black vote for a Republican primary.
Cain is a businessman, and he won’t waste time where it won’t be productive. What is one of his mantras? “Start by working on the right problem.”
But if he gets the Republican nomination, then he’ll pull out all the stops and start courting the Black vote. Not before.
2012, wouldn’t be the real value. The transformative value would be in having a Clarence Thomas constitutional conservative in the White House, with the loudest microphone in the world, and using it to lay waste to the Big Lie perpetuated by the left/media/race industry.
There can be no greater contribution to the conservative movement than that.
If Cain really believes he can draw more black voters to the GOP because he is black, then he’s just practicing another form of racism. That’s a shame.
Yeah...but it has you leftists at the WaPo nervous, hasn’t it!
Herman Cain does not have to reach out to Black voters, Herman Cain does not have to reach out to Hispanic voters, Herman Cain does not have to reach out to White voters, Herman Cain does not have to reach out to “All” minority voters!!!
Herman Cain simply has to reach out to “All” American voters, period!!! Enough Blacks, Hispanics, other minorities and overwhelmingly Whites, will support the Cain effort to “game change” America, tossing that “racism Jive” under the bus, freeing Blacks from the “Obama/Democrat/CBC/NAACP” economic slave plantation they have been kept on, and giving all Americans the same starting line of equality, opportunity, freedom, liberty, education and reward from hard work and indivdual effort!!!
Some liberal buffoon ranting that Cain will get very few minority votes is just plain hogwash!!! if Herman Cain garners the Pubbie POTUS nominee slot and gives the VP nod to Marco Rubio, Michelle Bachmann or Sarah Palin, Obama loses in a landslide and the current Democrat Party wil be just about devastated politically from any legislative effectivity whatsoever!!!
In 04 John Kerry won Michigan with 2,472,007 votes over Bush with 2,306,331 votes. That isn’t a huge spread that couldn’t be overcome (165,676 votes). Its also important to note that we stomped the democrats hard in 2010 and they didn’t pick up a single seat.
I overlook the 08 election simply because it was such a disgusting mess with the world’s most pathetic GOP candidate, rampant fraud, and a democrat portrayed as the messiah.
Things are very different this time including a severe crackdown on fraud, firm ID requirements, redistricting in GOP favor. Obama can’t afford to lose even one midwest state.
Very true. Honest texts 100 years from now will note that 2008 was an election that truly was conducted like a third world regime change.
Make that “dismissed by the straw hat bosses on the dimoKKKRAT plantation”. Those are the ones making the analysis for the msm. Purely BS.
I can think of one: If Larry Sinclair's allegations were proven true beyond a shadow of a doubt. Blacks would abandon Obama in droves, at the very least by sitting out the election.
If Herman Cain wants to “pander” to blacks, he has my blessing if he hammers away at reminding them that illegal immigration harms them most of all.
Great point. And tie it in with union support for those illegals.
Not worth the effort. Most blacks, not all, are utterly brainwahsed if not utterly braindead. Just listen to Sean Hannity’s radio show for 5 minutes if you can...
This is madness.
Herman Cain would not only garner less of the black vote than the other candidates, he would actually do the impossible task of bringing out more black voters for Obama than McCain did.
People who believe otherwise live in a fantasy world with no sense of the mindset of black voters in america today.
Black voters are just going to line-up to vote out the first African-American Democrat to put in a black Republican? Horsefeathers! Obama owns an approval rating is over 91% even TODAY (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=obama%20approval%20rating%20blacks&source=newssearch&cd=3&ved=0CDgQqQIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fblogs%2Fpost-partisan%2Fpost%2Fcain-and-the-black-vote-wishful-thinking%2F2011%2F03%2F04%2FgIQAQQfHlN_blog.html&ei=EtzPTrLEFez22AXxtNG8BQ&usg=AFQjCNFTEUGxoS7qSXJWpe-UZ60Q5oIvlw).
Utterly ridiculous to make this gamble. Bet the nation on a roulette number and you’ll have better odds of being right.
Refresh my memory. What allegations are you referring to?
Obama’s homosexuality.
You are out of your mind.
Two big words. :-)
Yep, write them off.
They aren’t worth the effort or time, as far as I am concerned the only way to really deal with them is to let Mother Nature and Father Time deal with ‘em.
They are lost and not worth finding.
Cain’s Assertion That He Could Win Over Black Voters Is Dismissed By Analysts
That's the real headline.
” People who believe otherwise live in a fantasy world with no sense of the mindset of black voters in america today. “
Gloria Cain is a registered and active Democrat.
If Herman can’t convince her to become a Republican , what shot does he have with millions of strangers ?
Herman himself didn’t see the wisdom of joining the Republican Party until he was 50 and almost out of the business world.
Cain has said he has voted for Democrats in the past and he supported Bill Clinton in 1992.
Cain and the handful of black Republicans are the exception and will never be the rule until blacks themselves
decide the Republican way is the better way.
Black culture despises homosexuality. In my state of Ohio, we had a Constitutional Amendment on the ballot to ban gay marriage. It passed with 68% of the vote total and 90% of the black vote.
Oh, did I mention? In that same election, GW Bush got 18% of the black vote. If not for that, it's likely Kerry would have won the presidency. Bush won Ohio by a total of just over 100,000 votes.
I’d just be happy if blacks would notice which political party was the KKK.
Agreed.
I agree with you, there will be many black voters that will vote for Cain.
One thing is certain. Newt won’t be able to pull any black voters.
Cain will get quite a few. Those that like Alveda King and many conservative black people.
born December 13, 1945 in Memphis, TN (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)
Parents were
Luther Cain Jr., born March 16, 1925 in TN, died March 29, 1982 in Atlanta, GA
Lenora Davis, born July 27, 1925 in GA, died August 20, 2005 in Atlanta, GA
Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)
Herman Cain is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN
Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama ISN'T!
Click on the cane, (No Pizza.)
Since FDR Democrats have been hoodwinking many blacks with traditional and conservative backgrounds into voting for them. If Obama hoodwinked 96% of blacks to vote for him in 2012, Cain could get lucky and get 15%, even 20%. First he has to win the nomination.
Blacks prefer to vote for the oreo cookie if each package comes with a trinket or a prize.
When issues are separated, as in the amendment you mentioned, yes, blacks will vote according to conviction. But when it comes to voting Democrat vs Republican, convictions appear to carry little weight. It is the same with abortion. Blacks have consistently been surveyed to be more pro-life than whites. But blacks consistently vote for candidates who are pro-abortion over candidates who are pro-life. When it comes to abortion, you can't get more extreme than Obama, who has totally supported late term and partial birth abortions. But his stand on abortion doesn't matter to the average black voter, even good church-going Christians.
Local pundits agreed that there was no other explanation for the unprecedented black vote for Bush.
Believe me, if it were a proven fact that Obama is gay, he would be a pariah in the black community.
I sincerely hope you are right in your assessment. I just am not seeing a diminishing of support for Obama among blacks. After 3 years of Obama and his destructive policies, his support among blacks is virtually the same. When I talk to my black friends and associates, they act like Obama has performed miracles in the past 3 years. They do not see any problems whatsoever with man. Any criticisms are quickly attributed to racism. That's it. No need to think about it. No need to hold Obama accountable for anything. He inherited all the problems, etc, etc, but has done an amazing job and should be reelected.
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