Skip to comments.Spain rejects socialism – only three per cent of EU citizens now have Left-wing governments
Posted on 11/25/2011 5:16:21 AM PST by Arcy
It's not often that you get the same headline in ABC and El País , but a result on such a scale allowed no room for interpretation: the two old rivals agreed that Spain had entrusted her future wholly to the conservatives.
Happily, no one can now question the PP's mandate. Throughout the campaign, Rajoy promised to cut the debt and get people back to work by reforming Spain's sclerotic labour laws.
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Spain’s problems may already be so insurmountable, especially as a Euro participant, that even a “Conservative” mandate may not be able to fix things. Then who will they vote for?
I suppose I should be less cynical and just be happy for the moment.
My admonition to the people of Europe:
This is not a.TV show. Geo-political change will not happen in a year or two. Just as the socialists were patient, gradually infesting your parties, churches, schools, and bureaucracies...so too must YOU be patient.
You have made a good first step. Continue the work, and take whatever victories you can. DO NOT expect to win every skirmish...if you do you’ll get frustrated and prone to surrender. Frankly, I think that has been one of our problems here in America in the wake of the great victory in 2010.
Remember Churchill’s words: Never, never, never give up! (Or something to that effect!)
I laugh at the conspiracy theorists on FR who claim there is a move afoot to launch a North American currency (the Amero?). Any "currency union" is bound to fail, just like the Euro is failing.
You just can't fix stupidity.
Remember, Spain had two conservative governments (1996-2004) was doing very well economically, was a strong supported of the US post 9/11, and was posed to re-elected the conservatives. Three days before the vote, the Madrid train bombings gave the Socialists a win, because they promised to appease the terrorists..once in power...they institued a full socialist agenda.. ( never miss the opportunity to take advantage of something bad, eh, Rahm) and only now have been tossed. Portugal, OTOH, is toast..
Spain’s conservatives may have arrived just in time to take the blame - and that may also happen in the USA next fall.
I’m guessing Michelle won’t be vacationing there again.
The socialists/liberals/progressives didn’t go away. Look at the election results. There are still huge numbers of irrational leftists in Europe.
That’s the problem. Undoing it is so hard. It’s like pulling an arrow out of the patient’s chest.
Conservatives in europe wouldn’t be considered conservative in the US.
Unfortunately, these formerly socialist countries don’t have the time, traditions, and financial means to turn themselves around in any reasonable timeframe. And history seems to show that even if things were to get turned around in say 10 years, the people of Spain/Italy/Greece/Portugal/etc. would probably turn right around and vote in the socialists again to go through this same sad parade.
I doubt that. Do conservatives control the legislatures, executives, judiciary and the bureaucracies? What's killing Europe is decades of socialist policies and the institutions that implement them.
Fascism (called right-wing) was nothing but managed socialism based on hyper-nationalism.
Europe (with the exception of the UK and the low countries) went straight from statist monarchies/dictators to statist socialist-democracies. They simply don't have any historical frame of reference for libertarian government.
Cool! Now move the deck chairs over there, and ignore the rising water...
Too little, too late, IMHO.
Nothing can prevent the pain at this point.
Europe’s so called “conservative” governments are not exactly Reaganites, or even Romnemites.
Still Churchill surrendered Poland after all. He fought to remove it from Nazism but let the communists have it in 1945. Yea, I know he was repudiated by socialist voters that same year.
They won’t have “left-wing” governments? Is this possible? Their voters are just disillusioned socialists waiting for the successful socialist to come along, sort of like some Democrats here waiting for Hillary Rodham Clinton.
That probable thing needed last time two hundred murders to happen.
? That has squat to do with my post.
What Europe considers ‘right wing’ governments is something we’d consider Dennis Kucinich leading.
It would probably be considered racist (it’s not), but I have thought perhaps the US should advertise for European Immigrants in this fashion:
Are you educated? Do you have a valuable skill in business, finance, medicine, or skilled labor?
Do you feel that your country has spent way too long insisting on socialist policies and overspending?
Are you willing to take a risk, knowing that, if you fail, nobody will bail you out?
Do you see that America is in danger of that same fate, but is still far better than Europe?
Do you know English, or, are you willing to learn it?
Do you feel (even if afraid to admit it) that the United States of America is the nation most responsible for the things you do every day of your life?
Do you like American culture?
If you agree, then come on over to the US, become a citizen, and VOTE to help us turn the US into a fiscally responsible, conservative or libertarian nation that is once again the envy of the world.
In fact, I’d extend that invitation to every country in the world.
Imagine being on your deathbed, which Jacques Chirac soon will and realizing your entire life was built on a lie.
Its a Start but the Socialists will not give up with out a fight. Expect any cuts to be met with violent demonstrations and maybe bombings. In time all Europe will go conservative and nationalistic. EC to be replaced with old style power politics and alliances. History repeated. If it fails—expect confusion and fascists Leaders to rise up and “Fix” things. This time it will be Arabs going to the camps.
I always found it ironic and somewhat comical that the socialist that Spain elected after 9/11 was named Zapatero. “zapatero’’ means ‘’shoemaker’’ in Spanish. At a time when Spain need a leader they elected a shoemaker.
Newsflash. All EU countries have left wing governments even if they call themselves “conservatives”.
They are all leftwing by my standards.
Unfortunately a “conservative” in Europe is Barack Obama....
FWIW, non-EU Norway is very much run by a left-led government. Of course, the rules of economic reality don't apply much in that petro state.