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To: gogogodzilla
Your argument is false and your examples are not parallel. Being shut out of the single market is a very real threat of force without the use of instruments of war. These bailout loans were resisted by all these countries, including Portugal and Ireland, until the pressure became too much. And perhaps you forgot about the Communist Party's role in causing unrest in Greece? and that it was the German government that proposed to bail out Greece in the first place? (with outrageous alternative suggestions such as selling some of their islands . . .)

If I wanted invalid arguments, I'd go to those liberal websites.
62 posted on 11/19/2011 8:58:51 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

They still had a choice. Each choice has side-effects they had to consider. And in their self-interest, they decided that taking the bailout was the best course of action.

The last time there was a case of a European head of state being ‘forced’ to do anything was with the Anschluss of Austria by the Germans in WWII. I supervised the grand-nephew of the Austrian Chancellor of the time. The stories he told of the Anschluss literally had the German delegation chasing down the Chancellor, forcably seating him, holding him down into the chair, placing the pen into his hand, placing the treaty in front of him, and then pointing a loaded gun toward his head.

With Greece and Italy and all the rest, they did not have anything even remotely close to that.

They found that out of all the available options they could take, taking the money was in their own best interest.


You really sound like a so-called ‘free speech’ advocate that is upset that others may decide to exercise their own right to free speech... to protest your own. Or in other words, someone who wants to be able to do whatever they want without regard to the consequences.


63 posted on 11/20/2011 6:05:09 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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