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To: Olog-hai

They still had a choice. Each choice has side-effects they had to consider. And in their self-interest, they decided that taking the bailout was the best course of action.

The last time there was a case of a European head of state being ‘forced’ to do anything was with the Anschluss of Austria by the Germans in WWII. I supervised the grand-nephew of the Austrian Chancellor of the time. The stories he told of the Anschluss literally had the German delegation chasing down the Chancellor, forcably seating him, holding him down into the chair, placing the pen into his hand, placing the treaty in front of him, and then pointing a loaded gun toward his head.

With Greece and Italy and all the rest, they did not have anything even remotely close to that.

They found that out of all the available options they could take, taking the money was in their own best interest.


You really sound like a so-called ‘free speech’ advocate that is upset that others may decide to exercise their own right to free speech... to protest your own. Or in other words, someone who wants to be able to do whatever they want without regard to the consequences.


63 posted on 11/20/2011 6:05:09 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla
So headlines are screaming "Germany took over Europe without firing a shot" and you still can't acknowledge that Germany did learn its lesson from two failed world wars and instead waged a "battle of the peace"?

I'm really shocked that more people don't read The Art Of War. There are far more ways to fighting a war than using military machines and brute strength. Look at III:2, where it says that "supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting" . . . this goes back to I:18, "All war is based on deception." And the European Union is and has been one long, protracted game of utter deception. So WADR, I don't think that your understanding of foreign policy is as complete as you have convinced yourself it is.
64 posted on 11/20/2011 9:44:53 PM PST by Olog-hai
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