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House Republican lawmakers want out of Norquist tax pledge
The Hill ^ | 11/09/11 | Russell Berman and Bernie Becker

Posted on 11/09/2011 3:07:39 AM PST by markomalley

Grover Norquist’s grip on the House Republican Conference is loosening.

A growing number of GOP lawmakers have disavowed Norquist’s pledge against supporting tax increases in recent days, telling The Hill they no longer feel bound to uphold a document that they signed, in some cases, more than a decade ago.

Norquist’s advocacy group, Americans for Tax Reform, lists 238 House signers of its Taxpayer Protection Pledge, but several House Republicans, and at least one Democrat, now say the anti-tax group is being deceptive and want their names taken off the list.

“I haven’t signed it since 1994,” Rep. Steven LaTourette (R-Ohio) said, explaining that he didn’t even remember endorsing the pledge until Americans for Tax Reform produced the original document earlier this year.

In its publicly displayed list of signers “in the 112th Congress,” Norquist’s group includes several members who say they have specifically refused to sign the pledge during their most recent campaigns.

The sheet of paper they signed years ago, the lawmakers say, is no longer valid.

“My driver’s license expires. The milk in my refrigerator expires. My gym membership expires, and I find the website to be a little deceptive,” LaTourette said.

Norquist immediately dismissed the claim, which was echoed by several other House Republicans.

“Does that even pass the laugh test?” Norquist told The Hill. “A promise not to do something doesn’t have a time limit.

“I haven’t even had junior state legislators pull that crap,” Norquist added.

The pledge dissenters represent the latest challenge to Norquist, widely considered the nation’s most influential anti-tax activist. Democratic leaders have targeted his power in recent weeks, vilifying him as a puppet-master of the Republican Party.

The pledge, which Norquist launched in 1986, has taken on added significance as the congressional “supercommittee” on deficit reduction nears its deadline for finding at least $1.2 trillion in budget savings over 10 years. Democrats are insisting on new tax revenues, but the pledge mandates that any tax changes be revenue-neutral. They blame the pledge for the impasse in the talks.

“The difficulty we find is that every one of these discussions, Grover Norquist seems to be in the room,” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) told reporters Tuesday. “I am hopeful that the Republicans on the supercommittee will break away from this.”

Reid’s comments came as GOP panel members offered to raise tax revenue by limiting deductions in exchange for lowering rates, in what aides characterized as a significant concession in the negotiations. Democrats panned the offer, saying the new revenue would be erased by extending Bush-era tax rates. Norquist, meanwhile, derided it in a Twitter post as an “idiot idea” reminiscent of the Alternative Minimum Tax.

All but six House Republicans are listed as signers of Norquist’s pledge, meaning that a voting majority of the body is on record opposing tax increases. Forty GOP senators and one Democratic senator have signed it.

Norquist has waged public battles with other Republican critics of his activism, most notably this spring with Sen. Tom Coburn (Okla.). House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) raised eyebrows last week when he referred to Norquist as “some random person” even as he defended the House GOP’s steadfast opposition to tax increases.

Americans for Tax Reform lists two House Democrats, Reps. Robert Andrews (N.J.) and Ben Chandler (Ky.), as pledge signers, but Andrews told The Hill he signed the document a single time, in 1992, and wants his name removed.

“I understood it to mean that for the next term, if I were elected, I would not vote to raise taxes,” Andrews, who called the ATR website “terribly misleading,” said in an interview. “I honored that pledge. I never renewed it.

“I never considered it to be like my marriage vows,” he added. “I’m married to Camille Andrews, not Grover Norquist. I promised her to be faithful until death do us part, and I mean it. I did not promise him to oppose tax increases until death do us part.”

Rep. Mike Simpson (R-Idaho) signed the pledge in 1998, when he first ran for Congress, and said he didn’t even know he was still on the list until earlier this year. “I thought it was for the next Congress,” Simpson said. “If it sticks with you forever, why do they ask you to re-sign it every two years?”

LaTourette said he had also assumed he had not signed it and even enlisted Boehner’s office to check with Norquist’s group, which confirmed that he did endorse the pledge in 1994.

ATR officials said the group’s practice is not to ask pledge-takers to sign it more than once, although several lawmakers reported being sent the pledge regularly during their reelection campaigns. Norquist said it was perhaps sent by state or local groups and that sometimes ATR sends it out en masse to candidates. But, he added, that’s never under the notion that those who have already signed it have to sign again.

Republican Reps. Howard Coble (N.C.), Pete King (N.Y.) and Lee Terry (Neb.) all indicated, either in interviews or through spokesmen, that they signed the pledge more than a decade ago but not for the current Congress. They were among 40 House Republicans who joined 60 Democrats last week in signing a letter to the supercommittee urging a grand bargain on deficit reduction that included revenues, entitlement reform and spending cuts.

“As far as Mr. Norquist is concerned, that’s his call if he wants to bind us all based on one signature,” Coble said.

Norquist has long emphasized that the pledge is made to a candidate’s constituents, not to him or Americans for Tax Reform. And he has said that his group is more concerned with lawmakers’ voting record on taxes, instead of their rhetoric.

“Talking about robbing a little old lady is not the same as bashing her over the head and stealing her purse,” he said. “Talking about raising taxes on a little old lady is not the same as taxing her.”

But he also signaled that ATR would not hesitate to target pledge signers if they voted for a debt deal that included tax increases.

“They made a promise to their constituents,” Norquist said. “If they do raise taxes, they were elected on a lie. And we’re not going to pretend they’re not lying.”

Despite the recent complaints, most House Republicans remain broadly opposed to tax increases, and several of the signers of last week’s letter said they were calling for more revenues but not higher tax rates.

“Grover Norquist’s premise makes sense to most common-sense people,” a pledge signer who endorsed the supercommittee letter, freshman Rep. Mike Kelly (Pa.), said.

Some Republicans have disavowed the pledge not based on a dispute over its duration, but because they say it constrains their policy choices.

Rep. Jeff Fortenberry (R-Neb.) signed the pledge prior to being elected to Congress in 2004, a spokeswoman told The Hill.

But Kerri Price, the spokeswoman, said that by the start of his second term, Fortenberry thought the pledge limited his ability to look at policy issues creatively. Since then, the Nebraska Republican has repeatedly asked, so far unsuccessfully, for his name to be taken off the list of pledge signers on ATR’s website.

“I don’t care to be associated with it. It’s too constraining,” Fortenberry told an August town hall in his district, according to the Lincoln Journal Star.


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Time to start making a "run out of town on a rail" list.

Put the tar on the fire. Get the feathers.

1 posted on 11/09/2011 3:07:41 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley
"“My driver’s license expires. The milk in my refrigerator expires. My gym membership expires, and I find the website to be a little deceptive,” LaTourette said."

You know what else expires? Your term, douchebag.

2 posted on 11/09/2011 3:12:18 AM PST by StAnDeliver (/)
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To: markomalley

Should have asked them to sign a spending cut pledge, as well. They’ll never do it without passing a BBA. I don’t see that ever happening without serious upheaval first.


3 posted on 11/09/2011 3:16:23 AM PST by edpc (My silence IS an answer)
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To: markomalley

So give me a list of people who want to raise taxes.

By the way: I have Grover Norquist ripped on FR because he is married to a Muslim woman.


4 posted on 11/09/2011 3:22:40 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: markomalley
“I don’t care to be associated with it. It’s too constraining,” Fortenberry told an August town hall in his district, according to the Lincoln Journal Star.

Yeah, a fiscally constrained government is such a bad thing, right Congressman?

5 posted on 11/09/2011 3:38:01 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Don't Tread on Me!)
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To: markomalley

Norquist should be made to sign a pledge against car bombs.


6 posted on 11/09/2011 3:41:38 AM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: markomalley
"“My driver’s license expires. The milk in my refrigerator expires. My gym membership expires, and I find the website to be a little deceptive,” LaTourette said."

So his word of honor is as durable and long lasting as fresh milk.

7 posted on 11/09/2011 3:47:50 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: muir_redwoods

My representative, Ander Crenshaw is on of the 40 who signed the letter to the superduper committee. I have sent this story and the letter to he local Tea Party Patriots office.

Saddle up folks, the ride is just starting.


8 posted on 11/09/2011 3:54:47 AM PST by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: markomalley
Rep. Mike Simpson (R-Idaho) signed the pledge in 1998, when he first ran for Congress, and said he didn’t even know he was still on the list until earlier this year. “I thought it was for the next Congress,” Simpson said. “If it sticks with you forever, why do they ask you to re-sign it every two years?”

To remind you that the voters who put you in office are watching.

9 posted on 11/09/2011 3:55:14 AM PST by Victoria_R (Believers in VERY small government: Count Mountjoy/Benter in 2012!!!)
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telling The Hill they no longer feel bound to uphold a document that they signed, in some cases, more than a decade ago.

Did the signers of the Declaration of Independence feel the same way 10 years later?

10 posted on 11/09/2011 4:01:51 AM PST by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: markomalley
I remember the last time somebody said “Read my lips, no new taxes”.
11 posted on 11/09/2011 4:02:43 AM PST by tobyhill (Obama, The Biggest Thief In American History)
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To: StAnDeliver

Check out post #2 on this thread everyone. Post of the year material!


12 posted on 11/09/2011 4:05:29 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: markomalley

VOTE OUT ALL INCUMBENTS... REPLACE WITH CONSERVATIVES THAT SIGN A PRO AMERICAN PLEDGE FOR LIFE.

LLS


13 posted on 11/09/2011 4:38:30 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Like Diogenes, I’m still looking for an honest man.


14 posted on 11/09/2011 4:48:02 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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“Time to start making a “run out of town on a rail” list.
Put the tar on the fire. Get the feathers. “

No doubt. We need to primary every one of these wavering spineless pieces of crap. I can’t believe they think they can get away with thumbing their noses at us when we put them in power. We need some serious house-cleaning this upcoming election.


15 posted on 11/09/2011 4:53:47 AM PST by lquist1
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To: StAnDeliver

You should take that post, get a list of his constituents to sign on it, and send it to his office on the Hill and his campaign office address.


16 posted on 11/09/2011 4:59:04 AM PST by Hostage (The revolution needs a spark. The Constitution is dead.)
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To: markomalley
For anyone who missed it.....

America's Ruling Class -- And the Perils of Revolution By Angelo M. Codevilla from the July 2010 - August 2010 issue

17 posted on 11/09/2011 5:01:55 AM PST by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: mewzilla

Congresscritters can change their minds. But lying to us about it is never a good sign. I expected more from those who talk about integrity except when they find it politically dispensable.


18 posted on 11/09/2011 5:05:28 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I didn’t. We need tea partiers to run. In ‘Rat primaries as well as Pubbie primaries.


19 posted on 11/09/2011 5:10:39 AM PST by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: lquist1

“We need to primary every one of these wavering spineless pieces of crap. I can’t believe they think they can get away with thumbing their noses at us when we put them in power. We need some serious house-cleaning this upcoming election.”

So True! In the end, it has always been the spineless RINOs that have been our real problem. Most of these jerks have been in Congress for seven to ten years already. So they should be replaced for that reason alone!


20 posted on 11/09/2011 5:15:30 AM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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